Jack Grealish

We really dropped the ball not going for him in summer. Can play 3 positions in the midfield comfortably and is such a threat wherever he pops up. His price tag now will be ridiculous so another one the club messed up for Ole as he clearly wanted him.

Donny and that kid from Atalanta's price tags would have almost covered the fee too. Incredible how short sighted this club is. We didn't need Donny or any CM until Pogba eventually leaves. We had enough midfielders for this coming season. Other areas were neglected yet again and it's the manager yet again who will take the fall.

Sancho was the one everyone wanted and I get that but I never thought a 120m deal was doable this year. We'd have probably managed to get Villa down to about 65 to 70m for Grealish though.
 
Seen a lot of people stick him on the right in these “what if” 11s, has he ever played much on the right in his career. For me there’s a fair argument for him being better than Rashford on the left
 
Seen a lot of people stick him on the right in these “what if” 11s, has he ever played much on the right in his career. For me there’s a fair argument for him being better than Rashford on the left

He is better, technically way ahead in terms of dribbling.

But it’s about the team and he’s fine on the right.

It’s a long season everyone will get games.

Grealish—-Rashford—-Greenwood.

Rashford—-Grealish—Greenwood

Rashford——Martial—-Grealish

Rashford—-Martial——Greenwood
——————Grealish———————

Gives us a lot of options.

He can play all those well and deeper but he’s better up the pitch. Not seen him play upfront but I’m certain he easily can given the right system.
 
What the feck is this :lol:
Good lord alive.

Yep. I remember when people didn’t want to believe Grealish was better than Maddison. I got the same type of :lol:

Some people know ball. Some people think they do.
 
Yep. I remember when people didn’t want to believe Grealish was better than Maddison. I got the same type of :lol:

Some people know ball. Some people think they do.
Bruno is an extremely efficient footballer numbers wise. He scores a lot of goals and gets a lot of assists. Grealish is streets ahead of him in terms of technical ability though. People don’t seem to understand the difference between efficiency and technical footballing ability. Bruno wouldn’t get away with giving the ball away all the time playing for a team like Villa like he does at United.
 
What the feck is this :lol:
Good lord alive.
He’s correct. Bruno is not as talented as Grealish in the same way Lampard wasn’t as talented as Le Tissier. There’s a difference between technical ability & efficiency in front of goal. If Grealish played for United he could slot right in, if Bruno played for Villa he would need to completely change the way he plays. There’s no way he could be giving the ball away 25 times a game playing for a side battling relegation.
 
He’s correct. Bruno is not as talented as Grealish in the same way Lampard wasn’t as talented as Le Tissier. There’s a difference between technical ability & efficiency in front of goal. If Grealish played for United he could slot right in, if Bruno played for Villa he would need to completely change the way he plays. There’s no way he could be giving the ball away 25 times a game playing for a side battling relegation.

People use these stats so randomly without any context or knowing the actual numbers at all.
 
He’s correct. Bruno is not as talented as Grealish in the same way Lampard wasn’t as talented as Le Tissier. There’s a difference between technical ability & efficiency in front of goal. If Grealish played for United he could slot right in, if Bruno played for Villa he would need to completely change the way he plays. There’s no way he could be giving the ball away 25 times a game playing for a side battling relegation.
There’s 2 of them - good fecking lord.
 
Yep. I remember when people didn’t want to believe Grealish was better than Maddison. I got the same type of :lol:

Some people know ball. Some people think they do.
I don’t give a toss about Maddison - what are you talking about.

Your opinion on Grealish and Bruno is well worth the :lol:
 
He’s correct. Bruno is not as talented as Grealish in the same way Lampard wasn’t as talented as Le Tissier. There’s a difference between technical ability & efficiency in front of goal. If Grealish played for United he could slot right in, if Bruno played for Villa he would need to completely change the way he plays. There’s no way he could be giving the ball away 25 times a game playing for a side battling relegation.
Good lord. Technical ability does not just include being a good dribbler and holding on to the ball well. I would argue that Bruno has much wider range of technique than Grealish e.g. Bruno can also dribble and play in tight spaces whilst has a much better range of passing, vision, free-kicks, shooting etc. We've seen Bruno totally dominate in a much worse team than Utd at Sporting so that could provide a good indication of how he would do at Villa.
 
I don’t give a toss about Maddison - what are you talking about.

Your opinion on Grealish and Bruno is well worth the :lol:

You don’t give a toss about anything outside of United. Which is probably the main issue. You don’t watch enough football.
 
Good lord. Technical ability does not just include being a good dribbler and holding on to the ball well. I would argue that Bruno has much wider range of technique than Grealish e.g. Bruno can also dribble and play in tight spaces whilst has a much better range of passing, vision, free-kicks, shooting etc. We've seen Bruno totally dominate in a much worse team than Utd at Sporting so that could provide a good indication of how he would do at Villa.

What :lol: Dominate at Sporting. The same league Gomes is dominating in. Did you see Grealish get Villa promoted? I don’t think you did. Maybe go watch some highlights and you’ll appreciate how a player can single handed drag a team up. Not being surrounded by Rashford, Martial, Pogba and Matic.
 
We really dropped the ball not going for him in summer. Can play 3 positions in the midfield comfortably and is such a threat wherever he pops up. His price tag now will be ridiculous so another one the club messed up for Ole as he clearly wanted him.

Donny and that kid from Atalanta's price tags would have almost covered the fee too. Incredible how short sighted this club is. We didn't need Donny or any CM until Pogba eventually leaves. We had enough midfielders for this coming season. Other areas were neglected yet again and it's the manager yet again who will take the fall.

Sancho was the one everyone wanted and I get that but I never thought a 120m deal was doable this year. We'd have probably managed to get Villa down to about 65 to 70m for Grealish though.

Yup in hindsight we definitely dropped the ball big time.
70-75 mil would have been enough for sure.
Now at first yeah that is a big fee and I guess they wanted to avoid another Maguire situation but like you said they splashed money on DVB and Diallo. That would have covered it.

Dropped the ball badly and now who knows, there probably isnt much of a chance to get Grealish anymore but if there is it will cost us much more.
 
Yup in hindsight we definitely dropped the ball big time.
70-75 mil would have been enough for sure.
Now at first yeah that is a big fee and I guess they wanted to avoid another Maguire situation but like you said they splashed money on DVB and Diallo. That would have covered it.

Dropped the ball badly and now who knows, there probably isnt much of a chance to get Grealish anymore but if there is it will cost us much more.

There isn't, let's move on!
 
Personally I would move on Fernandes once the season passes, as apart from winning games for us he's offering very little. Bring in Grealish and team him up with the consistent Pogba.
 
Yup in hindsight we definitely dropped the ball big time.
70-75 mil would have been enough for sure.
Now at first yeah that is a big fee and I guess they wanted to avoid another Maguire situation but like you said they splashed money on DVB and Diallo. That would have covered it.

Dropped the ball badly and now who knows, there probably isnt much of a chance to get Grealish anymore but if there is it will cost us much more.
Grealish over those two would surely have been Oles preferred scenario
 
What :lol: Dominate at Sporting. The same league Gomes is dominating in. Did you see Grealish get Villa promoted? I don’t think you did. Maybe go watch some highlights and you’ll appreciate how a player can single handed drag a team up. Not being surrounded by Rashford, Martial, Pogba and Matic.
Those players would stand out a mile at Villa if they played there as well ffs.
Grealish cant lace Brunos boots. Theres levels to this
 
You don’t give a toss about anything outside of United. Which is probably the main issue. You don’t watch enough football.
What on gods green earth are you going on about. How do you know how much football I watch - you haven’t got a clue but that much was obvious when you labelled Grealish world class.
 
There’s 2 of them - good fecking lord.
I don’t understand what is controversial about saying Grealish is more technically gifted than Bruno? You can be more talented & end up being less effective, achieving less. Rooney was more talented than Ronaldo but look at how their careers went.

There’s a very good chance Bruno will have a better career than Grealish. But on a technical ability level Grealish is ahead of him. It’s really not a dumb thing to say whatsoever...
 
Good lord. Technical ability does not just include being a good dribbler and holding on to the ball well. I would argue that Bruno has much wider range of technique than Grealish e.g. Bruno can also dribble and play in tight spaces whilst has a much better range of passing, vision, free-kicks, shooting etc. We've seen Bruno totally dominate in a much worse team than Utd at Sporting so that could provide a good indication of how he would do at Villa.
Sporting were the 3rd best team in Portugal, pound for pound it’s basically the same as Utd in the PL. it isn’t remotely comparable for Grealish shining at one of the worst teams in the league.
 
Yup in hindsight we definitely dropped the ball big time.
70-75 mil would have been enough for sure.
Now at first yeah that is a big fee and I guess they wanted to avoid another Maguire situation but like you said they splashed money on DVB and Diallo. That would have covered it.

Dropped the ball badly and now who knows, there probably isnt much of a chance to get Grealish anymore but if there is it will cost us much more.

Not a chance. You think Grealish would want to stay at Villa for the rest of his career. No way. Wouldn't surprise me if he signed a new contract to help out Villa demand a bigger fee for him.

Personally I would move on Fernandes once the season passes, as apart from winning games for us he's offering very little. Bring in Grealish and team him up with the consistent Pogba.

You almost had me there.
 
I don’t understand what is controversial about saying Grealish is more technically gifted than Bruno? You can be more talented & end up being less effective, achieving less. Rooney was more talented than Ronaldo but look at how their careers went.

There’s a very good chance Bruno will have a better career than Grealish. But on a technical ability level Grealish is ahead of him. It’s really not a dumb thing to say whatsoever...
He said Grealish was world class and Bruno was a cult hero.

It was incredibly ‘dumb’.

More likely Bruno will have a better career? What an understatement.
 
He said Grealish was world class and Bruno was a cult hero.

It was incredibly ‘dumb’.

More likely Bruno will have a better career? What an understatement.
How is that an understatement exactly? What if Grealish moves to Liverpool in the summer & wins 5 PL titles & a CL, while Bruno wins nothing here?

Why are you acting like Grealish is some average baller that can’t lace Bruno’s boots? Do you even watch him?

Ask Villa fans if they’d swap. I think I know the answer.
 
How is that an understatement exactly? What if Grealish moves to Liverpool in the summer & wins 5 PL titles & a CL, while Bruno wins nothing here?

Why are you acting like Grealish is some average baller that can’t lace Bruno’s boots? Do you even watch him?

Ask Villa fans if they’d swap. I think I know the answer.
They would be keeping the lesser player by some distance - good for them.

Jack is a good player, no need for you and that other fella to over rate him.
 
At Transfermarkt Bruno is ranked 3rd worldwide as a attacking midfielder. Grealish is ranked 16th worldwide as a left winger. I like Grealish, but I would not rate him higher than Bruno.
 
They would be keeping the lesser player by some distance - good for them.

Jack is a good player, no need for you and that other fella to over rate him.

Your being quite ridiculous right now, Bruno only moved to United last season and we’re not exactly top of the table. Great point scorer, a lot of questions asked about the rest. Grealish has the rest in buckets and it’s not like he’s lacking in terms of goals and assists either. Grealish is in my opinion the better player, let’s see where you stand once also he joins a top club. He is «only» playing for Villa granted, last year Fernandes was only playing for Sporting. What Grealish has done against Liverpool and Arsenal this season is more impressive than what Bruno has ever done for United.

«Lesser player by quite the distance».... jesus christ man, so wrong.
 
Watched him closely the second half of last season and my honest opinion of him is that he’s not a footballer. He is a showman, a skillful one, alike Pogba. He picks the ball, dribbles, dribbles, runs, runs and gets fouled and falls over. Souness criticized him a lot for it last season.

But it has to be said that he has started this season really well and he seem to release the ball earlier and quicker. So yeah, good player, he can do some stuff that Bruno can’t do but Bruno can do some stuff that Grealish can’t do. But the comparison should be made with Rashford as both of them are wingers.
 
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Your being quite ridiculous right now, Bruno only moved to United last season and we’re not exactly top of the table. Great point scorer, a lot of questions asked about the rest. Grealish has the rest in buckets and it’s not like he’s lacking in terms of goals and assists either. Grealish is in my opinion the better player, let’s see where you stand once also he joins a top club. He is «only» playing for Villa granted, last year Fernandes was only playing for Sporting. What Grealish has done against Liverpool and Arsenal this season is more impressive than what Bruno has ever done for United.

«Lesser player by quite the distance».... jesus christ man, so wrong.
It’s Bruno’s fault that we aren’t top of the table?

Good fecking lord, I dread to think where we’d be without him.

I worry for some people who watch football regularly and think they are even close in quality. Not wasting anymore time on it.
 
Here to witness how ungrateful our fans are again with their consistent grass is greener outlook. Well done.
 
You’d think Manchester United as the best team in the premier league they way we talk about other footballers. You’d also think Bruno Fernandes is Portugual’s best player the way we talk about him. Have some perspective. He is our best player and we are 14th.
 
What on gods green earth are you going on about. How do you know how much football I watch - you haven’t got a clue but that much was obvious when you labelled Grealish world class.

So you haven’t watched him?
 
Why the feck does it matter who is better Grealish or Bruno? We can fit both in to a team. Arguably not doing that leaves us in a worse position or in the same position we are now - left stagnant.

We need to improve.

Sign Grealish for cover of LCM, LM, LW and CAM.

Bruno can cover CM and CAM and do a good job for us.

Both are point merchants that are the type of players we should be trying to buy.
 
You’d think Manchester United as the best team in the premier league they way we talk about other footballers. You’d also think Bruno Fernandes is Portugual’s best player the way we talk about him. Have some perspective. He is our best player and we are 14th.

:lol:
 
I think Bruno and Jack are 2 completely different players. They're both better than the other at different things. I think Bruno is more comparable to players like Eriksen when he was still here and Ozil before him. When it comes to stats, they're very close. They'd be lovely in the same team (not that I'd suggest that!).

Also, what even is the definition of world class? It's very subjective. Some people say it's if you can get into any team in the world. Others say it's if you're the best in your position etc. I'd suggest yes on the former and no on the latter. But it doesn't mean anything really.
 
It's just fun watching Grealish play. Looks absolutely quality and would love to see him play for us. He's confident and always seems to want the ball, and plus he's always moving. Exciting player to watch.
 
It’s Bruno’s fault that we aren’t top of the table?

Good fecking lord, I dread to think where we’d be without him.

I worry for some people who watch football regularly and think they are even close in quality. Not wasting anymore time on it.

You were saying? Having a wee look at the game tonight by any chance? It’s pretty obvious you haven’t seen a full game of Jack Grealish in your life, but keep on making bizarre comments and comparisons. I’m not disputing your right to have your opinion on these players, but you have to accept people mocking your factually incorrect opinions. Grealish, once again, have done things on the pitch tonight that Bruno will never do, and he’d fit nicely into most top teams in England, dare I say Europe. So would/could our guy, the difference between them are miniscule at best in your favor. Bruno collects goal points, Grealish dictates every game he plays when he’s on form like this. Without him, Villa do not win 7-2 against Liverpool or 3-0 away to Arsenal.
 
Quality player . He’s really stepped up a level since Villa got in the Prem.

Would love him at United
 
It's just fun watching Grealish play. Looks absolutely quality and would love to see him play for us. He's confident and always seems to want the ball, and plus he's always moving. Exciting player to watch.
Agree, and like him lots. Held onto the ball for too long on too many occasions tonight though.
 
Ole wanted Grealish and yet Woody gave him VdB :rolleyes:

I was wrong in my initial assessment of Grealish. He looks like a really creative and fun player and would really help us vs low block teams.