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Cloud7

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Left wing, Right wing, it doesn't matter. Unless he changes his mentality we are just going to see more of the same. There is no dog in him and we were having this same conversation about Martial about 6 years ago.

We dream of Sancho hitting Martial's top level, which says a lot.
Left wing, right wing
He does nothing
Viva Sanchooo
 

AjaxCunian

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Looks much more muscular and structured than I've ever seen him. Fair play to him for putting in the work, and hope it pays off.

Still has the potential and ability to be an Old Trafford favourite.
 

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Looking leaner.

Against popular opinion, I genuinely believe he could be brilliant for us.

The Rashford situation is a bit tired now, but a year ago most would have shipped him. So it can turn around. Concede that another poor season for Sancho probably means the end though
 

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Looking leaner.

Against popular opinion, I genuinely believe he could be brilliant for us.

The Rashford situation is a bit tired now, but a year ago most would have shipped him. So it can turn around. Concede that another poor season for Sancho probably means the end though
With Mount, and hopefully a striker, I think he will be good too. Really needs to work with players with smart movement which we’ve been lacking for a while. If I remember correctly he would have a few more assists to his name if Wout could finish
 

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He hasn't played a minute yet but his performance thread is on to its second page, must be some news breaking......

....nope, two pages of people arguing over if he is fat or if he is in fact in the best shape of his life.
 

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Looking leaner.

Against popular opinion, I genuinely believe he could be brilliant for us.

The Rashford situation is a bit tired now, but a year ago most would have shipped him. So it can turn around. Concede that another poor season for Sancho probably means the end though
Rashford has had standout games and seasons before he had a couple of bad seasons that coincided with injury and us not having a decent manager, his poor form was only ever temporary. Sancho on the other hand hasn't had a single stand out game since joining, just moments in a handful of games, he's not shown anything like what Rashford did in a United shirt so I'm not sure where this belief is that he's going to 'come good' at some point.
 

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Probably the player in most need of game time during pre season - needs to get his confidence back, that miscontrol today with the goal at his mercy is purely mental
 

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Need this Sancho back
To be totally fair, most of what we see in that video we see at United. It's clear that he can be a very tidy finisher when he gets into position. It's the getting there bit that's not been happening, and it didn't happen a huge amount in that video either.
 

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Unless his mentality changes he's not going to be of much use. I am writing him off for next season personally. I know the striker areas are highly covered when it comes to addressing need but I remember watching countless games last season where if the club had some attacking intent from the wide players that would resemble even 6/10 performance levels, the team would have amassed far more points with a higher chance creation and conversion ratio. I think Antony is still raw but is presently twice the player simply down to his mindset alone.

There are too many factors that have to be in place for Sancho to be successful. Needs movement around him consistently, overlapping full back as he doesn't go outside and the tempo of the ball would have to be quick in and around the midfield because he lack athleticism. Realistically all of those conditions change simply through a different mindset (excluding the athleticism). I do hope he does come good however, a Sancho that resembled the form at Dortmund, Marcus either central or rotating and hopefully even incremental improvement from the right side with either Amad / Antony it's a good mix. But that's hypothesis not reality at this moment in time and on the premise of last season.
 

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Unless his mentality changes he's not going to be of much use. I am writing him off for next season personally. I know the striker areas are highly covered when it comes to addressing need but I remember watching countless games last season where if the club had some attacking intent from the wide players that would resemble even 6/10 performance levels, the team would have amassed far more points with a higher chance creation and conversion ratio. I think Antony is still raw but is presently twice the player simply down to his mindset alone.

There are too many factors that have to be in place for Sancho to be successful. Needs movement around him consistently, overlapping full back as he doesn't go outside and the tempo of the ball would have to be quick in and around the midfield because he lack athleticism. Realistically all of those conditions change simply through a different mindset (excluding the athleticism). I do hope he does come good however, a Sancho that resembled the form at Dortmund, Marcus either central or rotating and hopefully even incremental improvement from the right side with either Amad / Antony it's a good mix. But that's hypothesis not reality at this moment in time and on the premise of last season.
Biggest issue there is where will he get minutes now? He has to be behind Garnacho on the left at this point and I would play Amad ahead of him as understudy to Antony. We are moving away from playing with a pure number 10 and he is in no way capable of playing as a pressing number 8. We need to be very actively looking at loan options for him at this point, we are inevitably going to have to cover a chunk of his salary but we can at least get a loan fee in that would offset that and put him in the shop window to hopefully rebuild his value ahead of a permanent move next summer.
 

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It’s not set in stone that he is behind Garnacho. He will get games either as a starter or sub and at some point (which really should be soon) he needs to impress in order to play regularly. AWB managed it so if Sancho can’t even do that then he will be a lost cause at United.
 

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People forget he is only 23. This is what happens when you switch bit early. He isn't short of skill. The intensity and aggression is what he needs to work on.
 

DJ_21

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He actually started off sharp and looked fit. Had a good chance but messed it up.
 

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He needs to go on an army assertiveness type break I always thought. The kid needs heart and hustle
 

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He needs to go on an army assertiveness type break I always thought. The kid needs heart and hustle
He pulls out of every 50/50 it's so annoying, that's my least favourite type of footballer. In the FA cup final I almost pull my hair out watching him, if you depend on this type of footballer you'll win nothing.
 

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He actually started off sharp and looked fit. Had a good chance but messed it up.
There's no reason why he shouldn't have hit that ball first time. He's too afraid to miss so he'll try it work it inch perfect. What he need is courage. Courage to take people on, tackle, shoot, attempt through balls. He needs to realize its better to try and fail than to be so passive.
 

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He pulls out of every 50/50 it's so annoying, that's my least favourite type of footballer. In the FA cup final I almost pull my hair out watching him, if you depend on this type of footballer you'll win nothing.
Perfect player for Dortmund then.
 

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He actually started off sharp and looked fit. Had a good chance but messed it up.
He miscontrolled a very good pass from Amad, must have at least managed to control an easy ball and make a shot.
 

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I still have faith that he will become valuable player for us. He is one of our most talented players. But i really don't understand what happened with him. His decline is massive.
 

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It's obvious he'll pick up a fair bit of form at the tail end of his contract, with that he'll demand that we pay him £450k a week to stay.
 

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Technical ability is a very overrated aspect by some.

IMO It doesn’t even lead to the pace of a shot - it’s more the smoothness of a shot that arises from ‘technical ability’. Even things like positioning of a shot is arguably important in mentality, vision or intelligence or timing just as much as technical ability to place it there.

Ultimately it was obvious that all Sancho was doing in the Bundesliga is what the haters blame Rashford for - all Sancho ever did was beat the high defensive line and make a cut back cross or pass.

He was a pure stats player - his stats looked better than what he actually did.


Unreal amount of space to manipulate.

I’d have my best season in the Bundesliga than the PL & I think most will.
 

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He miscontrolled a very good pass from Amad, must have at least managed to control an easy ball and make a shot.
You mean that one in the box? I rather felt that he could not position himself properly so it was hard for a good first touch. However, we all agree he should do so much better and who knows if he ever gets that confidence back
 

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I like his skills, I don't like his mentality. IMO he needs a bit of luck (some assists/goals) to gain some confidence and start playing a bit risky. I still wouldn't give up on him.
I also don't like him on the left. Our LW generally is set up to be more agressive/chalenging, while RW has much more space to operate but has to keep the ball better. I think it suits Sancho much more.
 

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I really really want him to succeed here.

Also, watching the Dele Ali interview yesterday it just highlights how little we know about what happens behind closed doors with people, he already took time out from the game last season for example. He's not been great for us but I'm going to reserve judgement further and hope he can be the player we all know he can be.
 

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Technical ability is a very overrated aspect by some.

IMO It doesn’t even lead to the pace of a shot - it’s more the smoothness of a shot that arises from ‘technical ability’. Even things like positioning of a shot is arguably important in mentality, vision or intelligence or timing just as much as technical ability to place it there.

Ultimately it was obvious that all Sancho was doing in the Bundesliga is what the haters blame Rashford for - all Sancho ever did was beat the high defensive line and make a cut back cross or pass.

He was a pure stats player - his stats looked better than what he actually did.


Unreal amount of space to manipulate.

I’d have my best season in the Bundesliga than the PL & I think most will.
Definitely think the space and movement of Dortmund in the Bundesliga suited Sancho. Agree that what he has is more of a silkness to his play rather than high level technique as his passing, crossing and finishing is not at an elite standard (although he does in general have good ball control and a trick or two). I just think with him he reminds me of a number 10 who needs the team to be built around him and working like clockwork. Even then despite the assists he racked up in Germany he isn't really the creative type. So then you think well what is he then? Not really a winger, not really an inside forward, not a 10. As crazy as it sounds, in his time here he reminds me of a slightly more skillful Lingard, although Lingard actually had a more pace about him and that's not a comparison that should be made with a 80/90mil signing.
 

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Some just want to tear people down. It's easy to forget he's 22. That's the age some players break into the first team.