It's simple to me. They gave us their price, we assumed they would budge on their valuation, they didn't. From that point on, I don't think anything has changed tbh. Sancho clearly wants to join, but we can't afford their asking price and they don't seem willing to drop that price.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Exactly. I think people are genuinely going to be disappointed when it becomes obvious this isn't going to happen.I think the lack of news etc. is simply because we are at a stalemate, there has been no updates, we still can't pay what they want, they still won't lower their demands.
It's 120m ffs, we would be very cautious spending that kind of money pre-covid, let alone during.
Depends on general economic recovery. Also there will still be 2 yrs left, so their position won't be weak yet. You could very easily see more money in the market with moves such as Mane to real or real going for Sancho etc...
Yeah. 120m euros with 3 yrs left on contract, for a 20 y/o sensational English talent seems more than fair to me. Maybe there were other issues for us or we can't afford that. Or we may be trying to save a few million by getting Sancho to put in a transfer request.
Why is everybody taking the "we secretly renew his contract for one extra year" statement as true when is clear as day is bullshit?
Directly from the Borrussia Dortmund’s Q3 report.
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Transfer deals are an important part of Borussia Dortmund's business and, as in previous years, represent a significant source of income. However, in view of the developments in the economic environment, Borussia Dortmund on principle only takes transfer income into limited account in its planning. The transfer policy nevertheless presents significant opportunities to generate substantial income. Consequently, transfer deals are always assessed against the background of the current season. High transfer sums often go hand in hand with a drop in quality within the team, but it cannot be ruled out that value-driven transfers will be concluded contrary to the Company's sporting interests. Given Borussia Dortmund's sustained success, its players are increasingly piquing the interest of other top clubs.
The COVID-19 crisis is also influencing the transfer market. It cannot be ruled out that transfer sums for players will decrease temporarily on account of the economic uncertainties. According to the International Centre for Sports Studies, it is possible that transfer sums for players in Europe's leagues will decline by several million euros.
Q3 Borussia Dortmund
Transfer deals are an important part of Borussia Dortmund's business and, as in previous years, represent a significant source of income. However, in view of the developments in the economic environment, Borussia Dortmund on principle only takes transfer income into limited account in its planning. The transfer policy nevertheless presents significant opportunities to generate substantial income. Consequently, transfer deals are always assessed against the background of the current season. High transfer sums often go hand in hand with a drop in quality within the team, but it cannot be ruled out that value-driven transfers will be concluded contrary to the Company's sporting interests. Given Borussia Dortmund's sustained success, its players are increasingly piquing the interest of other top clubs.
The COVID-19 crisis is also influencing the transfer market. It cannot be ruled out that transfer sums for players will decrease temporarily on account of the economic uncertainties. According to the International Centre for Sports Studies, it is possible that transfer sums for players in Europe's leagues will decline by several million euros.
Interesting
That was their intention from a PR perspective. And it worked.
From what I can see they need to sell if they don’t want to use credits. In their own words its part of their Business plan to sell players every year. (see BD Annual report 2019 or Q3 2020)
As at 31 March 2020, Borussia Dortmund held unrestricted cash funds of EUR 18,781 thousand. Borussia Dortmund also had access to an additional EUR 60,000 thousand in overdraft facilities which had not been drawn down as at the end of the reporting period.
Cash flows from financing activities amounted to EUR -8,585 thousand. This primarily consisted of the dividend distribution in November 2019 and the payment of lease liabilities.
As at 31 March 2020, Borussia Dortmund held unrestricted cash funds of EUR 18,781 thousand. Borussia Dortmund also had access to an additional EUR 60,000 thousand in overdraft facilities which had not been drawn down as at the end of the reporting period.
Cash flows from financing activities amounted to EUR -8,585 thousand. This primarily consisted of the dividend distribution in November 2019 and the payment of lease liabilities.
You want a transfer window long documentary of his day to day or you're judging the transfers he's talking about just because they're obvious? If those are the deals going on at the time then that's obviously what is gonna be shown.
Chris Smalling is mentioned in the video. Have a look at this thread : https://www.redcafe.net/threads/smalling-on-loan-to-roma-1-year.450193/ and this twitter search: https://twitter.com/search?f=live&q...l:2019-09-01 since:2019-08-20&src=typed_query
Romano and Di Marzio broke the Smalling to Roma news. Also, those tweets mention Sky Italy who would be those two. He must be supremely good to guess Smalling to Roma.
Yeah, lets that sink in BVB. Your big stadium won't help in this situation, selling players is the only option for you.
That's pretty much how all the journalists work. Agent talk or club briefing. Then the others who guess completely. Why would any journalist be a genuine ITK? Don't think any of them have ever claimed to be.
I'm taking it as true cuz if it wasn't it would be easily refuted by "sources" close to Sancho and his camp or even United.
They desperately sold the unsettled Tomas Rosicky for just 10 millions euros to Arsenal after turn down several big money transfer for him. They went to absolutely meltdown since then.
General economic won't recover in 2 years, there will be less money in the market. Even Real and Barca are busy to expand their stadium instead of big money move.
That's what 15 yrs ago... Hardly relevant today.
Agree abt general economy. But you'd still expect it to be better than today.
I mean they also rejected a £30-40m bid from Bayern didn’t they for Lewandowski when he had less than 12 months on his contract?
They still have the same sporting director who sold Rosicky. I think he won't make the same mistake though.
You're ignoring that it wasn't just the fees being negotiated.
They also had sold Goetze for a big money that year. Losing the money to keep Lewandowski for a year was not a big deal.
They haven't sold any of their stars this window, but already have spent 50 millions euro.
He will go somewhere else next year. Well done woody. Fecked up another one. Best English talent in years in a position we are crying out for. Big statement could of been made that we want to go to the next level to catch pool and city. Oh well we might get Zaha.
You mean like it being mentioned by Fabrizio Romano as being bullshit?
Sancho is not going to come out say that straight away that would be dumb for him, he would only break his relation with Dortmund and that wouldnt warranty him moving here so not much to gain but a lot to lose.
What makes more sense for you.
A) its a, lame, tactic they anounced after the deadline to put more pressure on United on buying him asap by saying he wont be cheaper next year because they secretly extended their contract.
B) they did secretly extended their contract just by one year, without anybody knowing. In times when is basically public knowledge of every god damn player in the planet how long their contract is.
Additionally this would have happend at least one year ago because they been trying to renew Sancho for one year now and has refused.
Come on mate, it doesnt takes much to realize this is a clear bullshit tactic.
Care to elaborate?
Cool smilies too BTW.
I thought the Sancho deal would be dependent on us selling pogba tbh. With him staying and greenwood looking like a future worldie- why blow the 120m on Sancho. I think you put greenwood in that Dortmund team he’ll be 30goals next year. We got him dan James, ighalo TIL jan 31st. Maybe we just get Grealish and see what jan brings. We’re still totally unclear when fans etc can go back to stadiums and the longer Covid drags on for the less sky subscriptions are being bought. Seems sensible to me - the world is changing. Even city seem to spending sensible amounts at the mo.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jadon-sancho/profil/spieler/401173
Literally a 2 second Google tells you his contract was extended
The people who say just spend €120m, would be the same people who would be in an uproar if the club had to lay off staff, because of this pandemic.
Mane will be 29 next year, i personally can't see Madrid paying a big amount of money for him after this whole Hazard experience.
don't even have to go that far. They will be same people saying we paid too much for him after a couple of average games.
Its not true, his contract was not secretly renewed. His contract renewal was announced last summer. I dont even think Zorc even mentioned the word secretly either
A lot of that is just due diligence. Doesn't mean they will accept reduced sums. I do agree that selling players is a significant part of their business model.
Seems that Sancho doesn’t want the move desperately enough. No noises from his side about this.
How did this critical piece of information slip through from grasp for every experienced muppet in this thread?
To be fair it is only August 12th. Its probably not got the point yet. We also have no idea what he's said to Dortmund behind the scenes, I don't expect him to come out publicly with his desire.
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Interesting. Seems he's trying to cool all the talk about him.
It does feel like he needs to push for a move for it to happen.
I suppose one positive is that dispite all the interviews with squad how happy they are that he staying, he hasn't given an interview with yet.
Yet the club have been trolling on social media, I think they are loving the attention to be honest
The funniest thing about this thread is how hostile caftards who disagree with each others are 
Chill out folks, it's just football.
Chill out folks, it's just football.Hahaha, true.
This is also part of why we shouldn't pay this amount on him. It will come with too much pressure and can ruin a player. Look at HM, had a very good season for us but was picked apart for every mistake...just because he was a "£80m" player.
This is what happens when Manchester United are in town.
I have been a bit detached from the actual transfer but I'm enjoying the thread. Meltdowns, broken hearts and conspiracy theories.The funniest thing about this thread is how hostile caftards who disagree with each others are
How very evil of you
It's the only enjoyment they get after winning feck all for a decade
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