None of what the journalists say makes any difference. Sancho has always wanted to come, it's only down to whether we will pay Dortmund's asking price or not. No amount of posturing from either side changes that. We are in the same place we were when the window opened.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I fear that if we don`t get him now, we will never get him. Worst case scenario he is off to Liverpool next summer
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+1, Bale is just a smokescreen.
Liverpool won't even stump out €30m for one of the best midfielders in the world and you think they'll spent 100m+ on Sancho? Riiiight.
I think I've had too many hits to the head, but I'm inclined to think if Sancho is Solskjaer's number one target the club should get him. Back the manager and all that. We've overpaid for tutt before and Sancho would be a genuine upgrade.
Excuse. haha!
Absolute nonsense.
Is everyone on this forum a negotiation king?
It's a HUGE sale worth in excess of 100M Euros, it's never as easy as you think it is you simply don't go to Dortmund and offer the asking price. You negotiate. Hence the term "Transfer Negotiations" - then you have personal terms which includes wages, bonuses etc etc, image rights, agent fees etc etc.
Sancho is one of if not the most exciting young prospect in recent years & you all think it's simply as easy as offering what they want?!
Thing is if Woody was to pull off an amazing deal that suits both us and Dortmund you'd all be singing his praises. This forum is fickle and full of entitled bunch of FIFA/FM armchair managers who are bitter at seeing the opponents spunk money left right and center and somehow their doing it better than us. Heck the Havertz deal has taken almost as long as the Sancho deal and yet Chelsea are lauded as some sort of Transfer kings. Get over yourselves.
Ask yourself this. Have you ever bought a car from someone tried and barter the price down and then come to a suitable medium?
Oh the irony considering that a large portion of this forum don't want Bale and were a little cautions with Grealish.
When Utd comes out and says they won't buckle at the last moment like they did with Maguire and Bruno, that tells me they will. That made be even more confident this will be a done deal!
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They`ll have the money when PSG buy one of Salah/Mane to replace Mbappe
I was confident for ages but I don't think it'll happen now.
He'll have a year left on his contract by then, feasible he goes for considerably less.
Dortmund might also be more open to selling more reasonably to Klopp than us.
Still be 2 years left. I'd expect his price to be the same or possibly higher next summer. A bidding war could take it beyond 120m.
I'm riding this train all the way to the station or until it crashes and burns, toot toot.
What's your thinking behind this? Do you not think how weak it would make us look and put us on the back foot in any future negotiations?
But when you buy a car, the dealer is usually actively trying to sell the car.... here, Dortmund don't have to sell Sancho.
If someone knocks on my doors and tries to buy my car however - which I'm very happy with - I'd probably set a figure and I'd stick to it.
Yeah, good point. Yesterday hasn't swayed my opinion.
Aye I think it will be around then as well.
Agreed.
Aye I don't think that's a real possibility at all.
Nice one troops
This train will arrive safely and our new number 7 will emerge. Keep the faith my friend.
Why? Just Why?
What brought you to this conclusion?
This who Anti-Man Utd rhetoric on a Man Utd Forum baffles me! Why do we hate ourselves so much?
There is no reason as to why Dortmund would want to sell to Liverpool over us. We've bought Mikhi and Kagawa off them in recent years and have a relatively good relationship with them, so why all of a sudden would Dortmund want to play playground tactics?
Ridiculous take.
What am I missing? Why are BVB saying they are increasingly confident of keeping him? According to them, he was never for sale after the 10th, so why are they only now beginning to believe they will keep him? They was 100% sure after the 10th, no?
Yup, their constant chatting just reinforces discussions are ongoing for me.
There’s no way we’re signing Bale so I’m still aboard the Sancho train.
Agreed, I don't think it's realistic for Bale at all.
The only clubs I feel are potential competitor for him next summer is PSG or Barcelona. Chelsea have invested, Liverpool are cheap cnuts and Real will prefer Mbappe if they are going for an expensive forward. Mbappe suits them better as he can potentially replace Karim Benzema.
On the other hand, we have Barcelona who'll search for a Messi replacement and might have a new manager in Xavi, while PSG will be looking to replace Mbappe if he leaves.
But IMO United can get him next summer, but we have to ensure that we are getting CL football next season. Another season of struggle to achieve top 4, let's see how it goes.
On the other hand, we have Barcelona who'll search for a Messi replacement and might have a new manager in Xavi, while PSG will be looking to replace Mbappe if he leaves.
But IMO United can get him next summer, but we have to ensure that we are getting CL football next season. Another season of struggle to achieve top 4, let's see how it goes.
Its evident they hold some form of bitter resentment towards us after the Kagawa and Mikhitaryan transfers (remember the petty 'Enjoy the Europa league!' tweet?). Conversely I'd imagine Klopp is still held in very high regard there after the years of success he's given them.
and if discussions are ongoing, then United must be prepared to pay the asking price or very near to it, it's just a question of if that can be presented in acceptable terms of instalments, add ons etc....
That's how I am reading the situation.
What you are missing is that a British journalist and Borussia Dortmund aren't the same entity.
Did the club actually tweet that? If I remember correctly it was something like "Mkhitaryan is joining PL 6th placed Man Utd". It's actually not that uncommon to sometimes include that in a tweet/report and even if it were ill intentioned it was probably aimed at the player himself rather than United as he supposedly shook hands on a contract extension only to go back on his word soon after and have his agent throw chairs to force a move. There were no hitches with Kagawa that I can remember and United paid a very handsome sum for Mkhitaryan without wasting much time, so I'd be quite surprised if there were animosities between the clubs from those transfers. Even in this saga I don't really see the drama, the transfer won't fail, because of feelings, but because conditions haven't been met.
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Still on for me
Felt a bit knocked back this morning after the few tweets we had. Perked up a bit now though and until we get the briefing from our side that it’s off, I’ll still hold a bit of hope. I do share a few people’s fears that this could go to the wire and we’re left with no options at all. Hoping we’re working with some sort of plan.
If Dortmund weren't actively trying to sell they'd say he's not for sale and then keep quiet.
All throughout this transfer the noise coming out from Dortmund is that "he's not for sale. We're confident of keeping him. We're glad he's here next season"
Why not just keep quiet?
IIRC We told the media that Ronaldo wasn't for sale once and then that was it. Pogba. We've told the media he's not for sale and that's it.
Dortmund however, will not shut up about Sancho. He is definitely for sale.
Or he’ll be up for auction and go for less than 120 which means more clubs in for him.
Down to him at the end of the day
He's not for sale, but he can go for a price.
My car isn't for sale, but for a price anyone can have it
I mean for us I bet Pogba isn't for sale... but if someone turned up at our door with £300million, we'd probably sell him.
Why are Dortmund making noise? I don't know... I mean they're probably not keeping quiet about it because it's in the media and it's a way of letting us know that they're not there to be negotiated with.
Is there any actual quote on the "increasingly confident" part? Sounds like a generic twitter journalism phrase, tbh.
An actual quote from Sebastian Kehl when asked about Sancho yesterday on TV is this: "Guaranteed. Jadon Sancho will stay at Borussia Dortmund this season. We made that clear several weeks ago. There will be no change."
The other side is that Utd have been noticeably quiet. If was over surely they should release a statement saying as such.
Baffling
So what was woody doing watching the game yesterday then? Hardly a casual jolly to Germany
You're confusing answering a journalists question with making a statement. Dortmund all but certainly promised Sancho that he was allowed to leave under certain conditions (€120m before August 10th), they communicated that via their domestic press to forewarn the fans and public and after their deadline passed they made one set of deliberate statements and that was it.
Furthermore they don't need to make empty promises to the public to tell United that they are still willing to sell, the player and his agent would certainly know and therefore any interested club as well.
They did the former on Aug10, and the latter afterwards
The "noise", if any, was and is purely on the british side
If you're being asked on prime time live TV, you have to say something, right? They said the same thing as more than a month before.
Reality detached...
I have no idea. I was just commenting on the alleged quote.
He’ll have two years left next summer. Did you miss the whole thing about how Dortmund had secretly extended his contract by one year when they increased his wages?
I know, it’s just a bit bit more mysterious
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