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And why would he know that?He didn't even know Sancho had an extra year bumped on to his deal till yesterday mate. I wouldn't trust him or anyone for that matter. They are using educated guesses and being deliberately vague.
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I don't know are they? This isn't normal times and the economy is unstable. It would be derisory if you placed an official bid of that nature but when you're planning what you intend to offer isn't it obvious you test the water to find out what will be deemed acceptable?It’s what we call a derisory bid. Little wonder Dortmund were pissed and rejected all direct communications with us if that was the case. I just think United are being silly here
It was unofficial offers not formal bids. Big differences.That offer makes no sense. We paid for Martial, another teenager, €50m without add-ons 5 years ago and he was much less established and didn't have an output anywhere close to Sancho currently.
No, not if you are familiar with how Borussia Dortmund structures its pre season camp at Bad Ragaz (it is I believe their 11th or 12th time there).It's strange that all interviews suddenly appear 1 day after the press statement.
Dan is pretty good re Utd. He's a supporter after allHe was the first and only one who reported on this yesterday. If Sancho and his camp really put in a transfer request as he said, he should be bumped up to tier 1 reliability in my opinion
You forgot to addNo, not if you are familiar with how Borussia Dortmund structures its pre season camp at Bad Ragaz (it is I believe their 11th or 12th time there).
The first day of the camp contains a rather in depth press meeting. This meeting, which is largely about an outlook of the pre season, informations about personell, sometimes a bit about transfers and so, is one of the few pressers in the seasons not primarily held by the coach but by DoF Zorc. It was here when Zorc made his statements about Sancho yesterday.
The second day starts with a rather light training session followed by a long string of player interviews. There are interviews throughout the entire camp but the concentration of interviews is the highest on that day leading it to be dubbed "media day" amongst staff and supporters. The large amount statements about Sancho that the English press picked are a result of sheduling that has been consistent for more than a decade.
Funnily enough, none of these statements made much waves in the reporting of German sport outlets, probably because all these answers were completely predictable. The biggest story from those in Germany is the massive praise Erling Haaland heaped on Dortmunds own 15 year old mega talent Moukoko, who will start training with the first squad fulltime now and fully join the squad as player in November when he turns 16 and will be allowed to play in the Bundesliga.
Since when do we bid for players that we can't afford to pay? Has that ever happened? He can say we have agreed wages and how will that ever be disproved? Basically he is saying stuff that can't backfire on him. United will get him if they pay Dortmunds asking price etc. I could say that ffs. It's not earth shattering news is it?And why would he know that?
1. If his agent says there is an agreement, his agent isn't going to tell him irrelevant information like his current contract is till x date
2. If United did not have an agreement with the player, the club wouldn't still be confident it can conclude a deal.
It's odd then that his paper where he's head of football reported United are offering the full €120m in a 70-30-20 split.Tweet
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Why wouldn’t he?
He said he wrote about united. I just wanted to also say what I didAnd...?
The point is as with most of these big-time transfers, you wouldn't put in an official bid and spend ages negotiating with the club unless you had an agreement with the player. The same as with Bruno Fernandes we already had an agreement with him and his agent before we had a fight with the club over the fee.Since when do we bid for players that we can't afford to pay? Has that ever happened? He can say we have agreed wages and how will that ever be disproved? Basically he is saying stuff that can't backfire on him. United will get him if they pay Dortmunds asking price etc. I could say that ffs. It's not earth shattering news is it?
He's loving this attention and likes and retweets though I bet.
Just all breaking now from Romano and Falk.When did this happen? I've not been keeping up with the news today.
There must be surely a discrepancy between the actual figures and those leaked out. Part of the gameIt's odd then that his paper where he's head of football reported United are offering the full €120m in a 70-30-20 split.
I hope he doesn't go on strike. We are looking at a certain profile of player and I don't think United would be happy either.Why wouldn’t he?
He refused to train/play for city in the end of his time there.
Understandably a little different but surely not above him
In what way has Sancho refused to admit he'll be with Dortmund in the short term? It implies he's been asked and refused to commit.Just all breaking now from Romano and Falk.
*Talking and SanchoYou forgot to add
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Nah, they probably started with a lunch at least on the first day as they arrived around middayYou forgot to add
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That was during the dump!*Talking and Sancho
You missed that bit too
We are just not ready to sign the player with such deregatory offer. This dilly dallying by the club is symptomatic of a club just doing the bare minimum to be in the UCL and not bothered about competing in the champions league.Tweet
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Oh I was talking about the tweet. He's been very quiet but not been asked anything.In what way has Sancho refused to admit he'll be with Dortmund in the short term? It implies he's been asked and refused to commit.
It's basically the same journalist claiming United are offering €70m upfront, €30m in 21 and another €20m in 22 on August 3rd. A week later he's saying United never offered more than €60m with €20m in bonuses.There must be surely a discrepancy between the actual figures and those leaked out. Part of the game
Nah they weren't official bids they were offers made through intermediaries.We are just not ready to sign the player with such deregatory offer. This dilly dallying by the club is symptomatic of a club just doing the bare minimum to be in the UCL and not bothered about being in the champions league.
To be the top dog you must add from position of strength. Stasis breeds mediocrity.
He's 20 years old mate. How on earth are we not going to be able to agree terms with a 20 year old?The point is as with most of these big-time transfers, you wouldn't put in an official bid and spend ages negotiating with the club unless you had an agreement with the player. The same as with Bruno Fernandes we already had an agreement with him and his agent before we had a fight with the club over the fee.
Its basic common sense, I'm not saying anything about Romano credibility here, but not knowing the dates in a players contract isn't something which can be held against him since its not exactly a relevant conversation or topic that would have come up if his agent is speaking about a transfer being close.
I thought Alf Inge's lad made that face all the timeThat was during the dump!
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It's not a formal offer, though; it's just standard negotiations with the club via their agents. Chelsea were doing the exact same thing with Leverkusen over Havertz.We are just not ready to sign the player with such deregatory offer. This dilly dallying by the club is symptomatic of a club just doing the bare minimum to be in the UCL and not bothered about being in the champions league.
To be the top dog you must add from position of strength. Stasis breeds mediocrity.
His teammates and club have been talking up his short term future with them and he nor his camp have yet to say a word yet.In what way has Sancho refused to admit he'll be with Dortmund in the short term? It implies he's been asked and refused to commit.
Spot on. It's also even more important to do at the moment given covid and the economy. People don't really know where the market is at the moment. In normal life people are placing lower than normal enquiries about houses and property to see if they'll be accepted.It's not a formal offer, though; it's just standard negotiations with the club via their agents. Chelsea were doing the exact same thing with Leverkusen over Havertz.
This will be my last reply.He's 20 years old mate. How on earth are we not going to be able to agree terms with a 20 year old?
People are just so desperate for this to happen they will cling to anything this guy says. What's he said that is such a transfer scoop? None of us think wages was ever going to be an issue anyway. And if and when we sign him nobody can really disprove the wages were agreed before the transfer can they?
He might not know they have been agreed but assumes it's United and of course they can afford the wages. It's hardly going out on a limb is it?
Can you see where I'm coming from now?