Just checked his tweets. All United news and somewhat positive about Sancho and Upamecano, although he's getting his news from United side from the looks of it, while the likes of Falk are getting the news from Germany.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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What if we decide to sign cheap David Brooks for RW and Upamecano became our marquee signing this summer instead?
Shhh, don't let the chief muppet hear you say that.
I mean, I wouldn't be against it as it'll probably still boost our squad depth considerably.
Glad a lot of people here are coming round to what some of us have been saying all along. Utd may be idiots at times but if this was a deal that was utterly and completely out of their reach they wouldn`t drag this out unnecessarily for all this time and they`d have publicly declared their stance that they`ve walked by now. Fact that there is now talk of "movement" being made to sort out agent fees and the transfer fee not being an obstacle anymore(as per James Cooper yesterday) is encouraging signs we`ll go full speed ahead with this deal. Still positive it will get done but it will be our last signing in my opinion this and VDB takes our spending close to the usual 150m and we just aren`t spending beyond that during a pandemic
United need to give the players at least a week to get settled and integrate with the squad, the first game is on the 19th September, they need all the deals done in the next 7 days ideally.
Almost all our record deals are usually done just before the start of the season or slightly after the season starts Di Maria, Pogba and Maguire being good examples so this one won`t drag till deadline day or close to deadline day IMO
Well I think we all knew that anyway, but at least this guy makes it sound like the deal is more likely than not, whilst others just frame it as “no movement, we’ll see”
I think we'll be concentrating on offloading a few squad members for the time being. Bring in a few decent fee's and then return with a official bid.
Similiar to how we finally brought Maguire to the club,largely due to offloading Lukaku to Inter. Obviously we wont be making 60 million + but we should be making enough to chip away at the reported fee of 120 million.
Patience.
Similiar to how we finally brought Maguire to the club,largely due to offloading Lukaku to Inter. Obviously we wont be making 60 million + but we should be making enough to chip away at the reported fee of 120 million.
Patience.
From a footballing perspective, absolutely. But the Board will be less bothered about that than Ole.
Happy Sancho greetings everyone.
I can see us sign a CB too once Jones & Smalling depart. But yes, that will be it. Can’t see Upa coming this summer, he’ll be too costly.
Maguire was bought before we sold Lukaku due to Juve's new offer. it took more time but worked in our favour eventually as Inter upped their bid.
But I agree with you that many need to relax and be a little patient. This whole thing remindes me a lot of Pogba's saga. it matches in every detail and we know how Pogba's deal panned out. I bet this we'll be wrapped up before the start of the EPL. Dealing with stingy clubs like BvB or juve will frustrate any buyer as they'll refuse to pay the agent fees. In top of that they will demand a ridiculous price and a lot of the cash upfront. If it was a little deal, yeah you could just over pay and don't feel bad about overspending. However, when it reaches to these figures that we are hearing then the club have every right to play every trick in the book to lower the price down.
and happy Sancho day to every BvB out there.
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I reckon Ole should start with the same 11 that we ended with (swap Brandon for Shaw and Fred for Matic). Then have the new signings fight for their position. Make them earn it. It wall depend on fitness as well I guess as, Sancho has played a few games already and Mason and Martial should have had as well, if they get on the pitch for their national teams.
If we do get a CB it will be a cheap Andy Robertson esque signing I can`t see us spending big on a CB and Cooper already ruled out Upa yesterday and Badiashile/Torres are too raw and expensive I can`t see Utd gambling with them so interested to see what we`ll do there. Maybe we`ll sign a cheap LB instead of a CB
Hopefully Rojo too.
Where did he say this actually? If you have a link handy that would be great.
We'll have to drop down a division to get one. Robertson was 8m three years ago, so yes cheap by today's standards. But if Utd come calling expect that to be 3x as much now.
There aren't many 22/23 year old CBs out there that your going to get under 25m, and I can see persevering with what we have and give time to Mengi and possibly Bernard who both look quality
I`m not allowed to post media yet but its on Twitter just go search "James Cooper" and "Upamecano" and you`ll find it
this thread is some Rollercoaster
Good points and as I said its why I think Sancho will be our last buy. Maybe we get a cheap LB instead of a CB as I struggle to see who else Utd will want in that position
It's more of a teacup ride honestly.
£50 million agent fee? Even mortgage brokers and estate agents only charge 1-2% and that’s bad enough! £50 million Is what 46-47% Of the value of the transfer? The agent needs repeatedly kicking in the balls if this figure is real.
Cheers.
So, if we haven't agreed a fee with Dortmund or wages and agent fees with Sancho and his agent, what have we agreed?
To disagree.
True... but what if we were to ship Smalling, Lingard, Perriera, Dalot (reluctantly, I want him to stay) and we brought in revenue as well as cleared up the wage bill? I think we might dive for a CB if the deal is good enough.
They are usually done before the season starts though. Deadline day is after like 3 games
True, alot of turning one way then the next without anything actually happening
I wouldn’t bank on this knowing Utd. I would not be surprised at all if this is a deadline day signing. Our transfers are never ideal.
It’s not the worst situation in the world to have to start with Greenwood and then introduce Sancho a few games into the season. Greenwood is more than good enough to fill that position for now.
Sancho himself should also be questioned if the £50m agents fee is accurate.
I really don't believe this notion. Supposedly the transfer for Pogba included Raiolas comission not a separate commodity. The way the information is being portrayed is that Dortmund want 120 mill and the agent wants 50 mill on top of that totalling 170. Sounds like total garbage and there's one thing for sure if it was true Sancho isn't leaving Dortmund until 2023 because no one will cater to those demands.
So have you put yourself forward for this Pex like I have in the Upamecano thread?
No way that is true. But if it is, then maybe Dortmund want 120 because they need to pay agent. It is between clubs who will pay agent. Juve for example payed Raiola, not United. We gave them 100 mil and then they payed agent from that fee. So they got around 70 mil for Pogba
The Pogba deal was also a bonus I believe, IF Raiola brought in Pogba, Ibrahimovic and Mhkitaryan.
So the fee in that case was purely to get all 3 in the door, meaning the Agents fee would have been around £10M per transfer.
One of the most boring sagas I can remember. No flight radar, no tapping up from our players, no proper news for weeks and still this thread somehow grows bigger and bigger.
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