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Delighted. He can now go off and think about why he is the fecking cnut while hanging upside down from a curtain rod, I imagine that's how he sleeps the little fruit bat.
 

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How the hell is Costa unfairly treated? He's only been sent off once! He should be sent off every other game!
Media coverage of his incidents compared. It's a marked difference. Example when he stood on skrtel back pages read Costa crimes!! After stamp.

Whe Gerrard did it and got sent off straight after coming on they said it was unfortunate and only because he was frustrated at lack of playing time and nowhere near same amount of back page coverage
 

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The only reason there was contact is because Vardy steps across Rafael to engineer the foul and then dramatically throws himself on the ground. Rafael even steps away from Vardy slightly. He couldn't have done anything more other than not chase Vardy down at all. The ref got conned by the horrible little chavy scrote.
Rafael gave Vardy the option to take the dive and win the penalty. If you can't see that then I don't know what to say.

It's a dive, it's not a foul, we were fecking robbed, I get it, I agree, but absolving Rafael of any blame is absolute bullshit. He was a fecking idiot and he cost us.
 

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I don't think I've ever heard anyone ever defend that decision.
Where am I defending the decision?

It was a dive. End of. I was livid at the time and still am now when I see it, it's a fecking awful decision.

But it wouldn't have happened if Rafael hadn't done what he did to give Vardy the option in the first place.
 

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Keep checking this thread to see if he's received a two or three match ban. Would be delighted.

Hope he's the reason Leicester lose out on the title.
 
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If Costa, Suarez to name 2 had done what he did, the media outrage would be unreal. As much as i think he is a wind up bastard, i think Costa is unfairly treated and the English darlings are let off
Completely agree. It's that horrible little Englander mentality peddled by people who are stuck in the 19th century.
 

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Media coverage of his incidents compared. It's a marked difference. Example when he stood on skrtel back pages read Costa crimes!! After stamp.

Whe Gerrard did it and got sent off straight after coming on they said it was unfortunate and only because he was frustrated at lack of playing time and nowhere near same amount of back page coverage
This definitely happens, most of the newspaper reports I saw after Vardy got sent off talked about 'controversial decisions' from the referee, with not much (if any) comment on the dive itself.

Just imagine if Ronaldo was still with us and did the exact same thing.
 

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Rafael gave Vardy the option to take the dive and win the penalty. If you can't see that then I don't know what to say.

It's a dive, it's not a foul, we were fecking robbed, I get it, I agree, but absolving Rafael of any blame is absolute bullshit. He was a fecking idiot and he cost us.
So what was he supposed to do? Just let Vardy run at goal?
 

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This definitely happens, most of the newspaper reports I saw after Vardy got sent off talked about 'controversial decisions' from the referee, with not much (if any) comment on the dive itself.

Just imagine if Ronaldo was still with us and did the exact same thing.
Exactly. The coverage of this incident reeks of double standards from people who desperately want Leicester to win the league.

People are still peddling out the footage of Keane, Stam etc getting in D'Urso's face against Middlesbrough, 16 years ago. The fact that it was United players committing the perceived offence caused national outrage.

The people who condemned United back then are probably now saying Vardy's been harshly treated. Fact is he took an obvious dive, then apparently swore at the ref and pointed his finger in his face. That sort of thing should be stamped out, there's absolutely no need or place for it and Vardy deserves to be punished.
 

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So what was he supposed to do? Just let Vardy run at goal?
No, but he could've used his head and not put his hands on him, as soon as he did that Vardy was going down, that simple.

When you make contact in the box, any contact in the box, the player you're tackling will go down, and 9/10 times the referee will give a penalty. Don't give him the fecking option.
 

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No, but he could've used his head and not put his hands on him, as soon as he did that Vardy was going down, that simple.

When you make contact in the box, any contact in the box, the player you're tackling will go down, and 9/10 times the referee will give a penalty. Don't give him the fecking option.
Is this is what it's come to, the penalty area is now a non contact zone?

Except for corners of course, then you can carry on as if it's a game of American football.

I'd sooner we had our game back as its meant to be and punish anybody who wants to blatantly cheat.
 

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Is this is what it's come to, the penalty area is now a non contact zone?

Except for corners of course, then you can carry on as if it's a game of American football.

I'd sooner we had our game back as its meant to be and punish anybody who wants to blatantly cheat.
So would I but yes this is what it's come to. The referees are almost pre-programmed to give a penalty whenever a player goes down in the box. Vardy knew this and waited for Rafael to touch him even slightly.

It's absolutely bent but it's what happens. There's empirical evidence to support it, and why there's always such a furore when a soft penalty isn't given (like the dive the other day where Vardy got sent off) because there's no consistency from referees whatsoever.
 

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I think the excessive whingeing about the soft pens that don't get given is mainly caused by silly fan bias & silly punditry meself, where 2 feeds into 1.

I watch some of these incidents half a dozen times & still can't tell you what's going on - most recently the Payet dive/pen would be a good example but everyone else seemed to know, on both sides of the argument. I'm happy to do it meself when it suits, mind. :D
 

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ftr, I originally thought Rafael was a bit dozy in being done over by Vardy but it was then pointed out to me that the list of responsibility for that horrendous sequence of events was headed up by Clattenbastard & Vardy with Rafael trailing a miserable 3rd on that occasion. How you watch & 'decide' is often predicated on your desires & preconceptions, innit?
 

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No, but he could've used his head and not put his hands on him, as soon as he did that Vardy was going down, that simple.

When you make contact in the box, any contact in the box, the player you're tackling will go down, and 9/10 times the referee will give a penalty. Don't give him the fecking option.
Raf didn't tackle him & complete crap that 9 out of 10 contacts in the box result in a penalty. Smalling would be giving away a penalty or 2 in every game of that we're so.
 

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He barges into Rafa for the penalty too and dives the same he dived last Sunday.

This time he got caught out and being the cnut he is, he couldn't take it.
I think there's a difference between the 2. Against West Ham they're running side by side with the ball in front, Vardy throws his legs into the West Ham player, we can either call it a dive or at best for him we can call it a foul by Vardy because he's effectively caused the tangle of legs and tripped the opponent. Against us, Rafael is behind him, and he moves to shield the ball which he has control over so Rafael can't get the tackle in, and Rafael bundles into the back of him.

How the ref can decide that Vardy barging Rafael over 3 seconds before isn't a foul but the same incident inside the box is a penalty, that still perplexes me. I think the anger over that incident can be aimed at Clattenburg for not giving the clearest free kick you'll ever see.
 

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I think there's a difference between the 2. Against West Ham they're running side by side with the ball in front, Vardy throws his legs into the West Ham player, we can either call it a dive or at best for him we can call it a foul by Vardy because he's effectively caused the tangle of legs and tripped the opponent. Against us, Rafael is behind him, and he moves to shield the ball which he has control over so Rafael can't get the tackle in, and Rafael bundles into the back of him.

How the ref can decide that Vardy barging Rafael over 3 seconds before isn't a foul but the same incident inside the box is a penalty, that still perplexes me. I think the anger over that incident can be aimed at Clattenburg for not giving the clearest free kick you'll ever see.
The whole incident is right up there with the worst bits of reffing seem these last few years.

Misses an insanely obvious barge, and then presumes that there's a foul because of it being "Reckless Rafael" sprinting in.
I'm sure we all feared the worst when we saw Rafael getting up and manicly zooming after Vardy. But clearly the actual contact was nothing near a penalty.
 

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Raf didn't tackle him & complete crap that 9 out of 10 contacts in the box result in a penalty. Smalling would be giving away a penalty or 2 in every game of that we're so.
He didn't tackle him but he touched him, Vardy went down. Referee put two and two together and got five but it's contact in the box that has caused a player to go down in the referees eyes, regardless of how bloody soft it was.

I may have exaggerated it but more soft penalties are given than not given. I'm honestly surprised we don't concede more with Smalling in the team. England are going to get destroyed at the Euros if Smalling carries on the way he is.

What we need is consistency in a single match from a referee. If you book someone for diving then you can't give another penalty to even it up, it's bullshit. Jon Moss ruined himself with this recent bag of shite.
 

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It's mostly to do with Rafael not being a very good FB. He was always giving away fouls and getting yellows.
 

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Media coverage of his incidents compared. It's a marked difference. Example when he stood on skrtel back pages read Costa crimes!! After stamp.

When Gerrard did it and got sent off straight after coming on they said it was unfortunate and only because he was frustrated at lack of playing time and nowhere near same amount of back page coverage
Hmm, I'd argue he gets what he deserves in the media and the others don't but I take your point. They should all be pilloried.
 

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He didn't tackle him but he touched him, Vardy went down. Referee put two and two together and got five but it's contact in the box that has caused a player to go down in the referees eyes, regardless of how bloody soft it was.

I may have exaggerated it but more soft penalties are given than not given. I'm honestly surprised we don't concede more with Smalling in the team. England are going to get destroyed at the Euros if Smalling carries on the way he is.

What we need is consistency in a single match from a referee. If you book someone for diving then you can't give another penalty to even it up, it's bullshit. Jon Moss ruined himself with this recent bag of shite.
It is a contact sport, Raf did not foul him, Vardy cheated to win a penalty. Vardy threw himself into the path of Raf, it was not a natural movement, there was little Raf could have done to avoid any contact & it was not a foul.
Think some are forgetting that cheating is against the rules of the sport & going after certain players as they were the victims of cheats.

As for Smalling, I see many many defenders from all countries doing exactly what he does, indeed JT made a career out of it. No idea why some of our fans seem to show resentment of our players.

The standard of refs has always been an issue, they cannot keep up with play & are frequently facing players who cheat & crowds that influence their decisions. They have an impossible job, but gives the fans something to moan about, so long may it continue.
 

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It's mostly to do with Rafael not being a very good FB. He was always giving away fouls and getting yellows.
Odd how he had some excellent games against the goners & scored at least one very memorable goal against them.
His main issues were to do with staying fit.
 

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Funny how his racist incident in the casino goes unmentioned for the most part, wouldn't have him anywhere near my club never mind United.
 

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This bump got me worried we were in for him.
*phew*
 
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