That's never going to happen if you read the above tweet and their information is right.Can we chuck Everton Maguire and McTominay for Branthwaite and Onana? Both of them are one year left so are modestly priced than what they were a year ago.
30M seems more doable than 40M if they try to sneak it in without selling Onana or Brathwaite like selling Calvert-Lewin and a couple others with some of the money cut by amortization (but can still profit like 50% of fees for a Patterson or Godfrey if some Prem team will cough up 10-12M for them).
Sell-on clauses are often profit-share as opposed to percentage of gross, so they would likely have to pay Lille less than that too. If they bought for 30m and sell for 50m, they would probably have to pay 20% of 20m, which is 4m as opposed to 10m.30M seems more doable than 40M if they try to sneak it in without selling Onana or Brathwaite like selling Calvert-Lewin and a couple others with some of the money cut by amortization (but can still profit like 50% of fees for a Patterson or Godfrey if some Prem team will cough up 10-12M for them).
Or maybe they keep Brathwaite and sell Onana (my napkin math might be wrong, but if Onana is 30M over 5 years and they sell him for 50M with 10M going to Lille that's 22M in profit) and 1-2 others they'd be at 40M, so they can probably do that.
Branthwaite can play left or right CB so I think he will play alongside as well as instead of Martinez. Maybe Martinez could fill in at left back but I don’t think he would be any more than a makeshift one.Seems to be a lot of noise linking this guy and us.
I wonder if a new manager might opt for Martinez at left back if we get this guy? Never seen Martinez play there but i've heard it's a position he can play.
Bremer has a 50m clause?Most central defenders who are worth looking at will go for 60m+
Not sure which players you think we could get for so much less than what Branthwaite would cost
Off the top of my head, Diomande, Silva, Branthwaite, Tapsoba, Yoro, Todibo, Kossounou, Inácio, Lukeba, Bastoni, Bremer, Scalvini, Hato
Any one of them would be expensive
One player we should seriously consider is Adarabioyo on a free, and like most people, I also love deals like Anselmino, but that wouldn't be done with next season in mind
Agree. Too often we seem to be that level of aggressive for English/PL players when bigger talents that probably cost a similar amount are snapped up by the top clubs from other leagues.I’m certainly a fan, and I did have a preference for him due to the English factor, however, I must concede that Yoro looks a class above in terms of the young group and would now be my absolute first choice. That said, every top club seems to be after him and he will not be cheap.
Yoro and Neves are the type of players we should be spending big on as we look to build a winning team. This is the strategy that built this iteration of Real Madrid, and we need to be more aggressive in that sort of market.
We need to be willing to spend though, so hopefully this talk of scrimping is misunderstood. None of the other top PL teams (well, except Chelsea) are operating this sort of strategy. The others are spending big on proven, often PL talent. We have been spending big on the wrong players sadly, but I would like us to target the likes of Yoro and Neves and mix that up with some Bosmans or players with a year left.Agree. Too often we seem to be that level of aggressive for English/PL players when bigger talents that probably cost a similar amount are snapped up by the top clubs from other leagues.
He already looks Madrid bound. There’s nothing we can do if they really want to follow through. I agree with you totally though. They would have usually snapped up someone like Neves too. I think it’s really important that we get one of the two as they are the biggest talents out there currently for saleI’m certainly a fan, and I did have a preference for him due to the English factor, however, I must concede that Yoro looks a class above in terms of the young group and would now be my absolute first choice. That said, every top club seems to be after him and he will not be cheap.
Yoro and Neves are the type of players we should be spending big on as we look to build a winning team. This is the strategy that built this iteration of Real Madrid, and we need to be more aggressive in that sort of market.
yeah every time i watched him he's been ok, Maguire was even better when he was at Leicester.Not been too impressed with him of late
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I’d also put Stones working out at City down to Pep who can basically make any player who can pass work in his system.Same as Stones, people questioned the rash passes and positional play before he went to City. Get Braithwaite signed up.
We play deeper but Branthwaite plays more risky. He attacks the ball rather than staying in that deeper line at times which is risky and does sometimes rely on his own pace and recovery or other players. He got caught out by Palmer with the meg for the first goal and wasn't strong enough in his tackle. He had an okay game aside from that but it's those moments that matter. An average game from him last night but it was an awful performance from everyone.In terms of left footed CBs, Branthwaite seems like the obvious one for the future. He has more than proved that he has the potential but he's not a world beater yet. Also, playing in a Dyche system may hinder his growth from a big team fitment perspective. They play too deep so we can't know what his recovery attributes are like. Similarly with so little possession, very hard to figure how he'll fit in a possession heavy setup even though he does make cute little passes through the lines.
Another left footed CB who's been catching my eye has been Murillo at Forest. Like Branthwaite, just 21 years of age. Comes across as very impressive on the ball. Almost scored an 80 yarder against Spurs and also a solo dribbling effort against Palace. Similar to Martinez, his height could be an area for a debate. But overall, seems like a very similar profile to Martinez with less defensive consistency but more offensive impetus.
Fair enough. You would've watched him more than me. I was incredibly impressed with him especially when Everton went on that decent run after the initial points deduction but off late, there have been a few awkward moments. Apart from the Palmer nutmeg yesterday, Isak turned him quite easily and at Etihad, even though he did quite well initially, he was quite poor for both Haaland goals. So from the perspective of a team looking for a left footed young CB, the feeling is a bit mixed at the moment. He is quite good especially for his age but given that his price may skyrocket, just wondering if there are obvious chinks in the armour and other (cheaper) options may be a better punt.We play deeper but Branthwaite plays more risky. He attacks the ball rather than staying in that deeper line at times which is risky and does sometimes rely on his own pace and recovery or other players. He got caught out by Palmer with the meg for the first goal and wasn't strong enough in his tackle. He had an okay game aside from that but it's those moments that matter. An average game from him last night but it was an awful performance from everyone.
He's looked quite lethargic recently. People need to remember that it's only his first PL season and he's a young CB, he will make mistakes. Rio and Vidic didn't become Rio and Vidic in a day. They made mistakes, VVD still makes mistakes..Van de Ven had a horror show on the weekend etc.Fair enough. You would've watched him more than me. I was incredibly impressed with him especially when Everton went on that decent run after the initial points deduction but off late, there have been a few awkward moments. Apart from the Palmer nutmeg yesterday, Isak turned him quite easily and at Etihad, even though he did quite well initially, he was quite poor for both Haaland goals. So from the perspective of a team looking for a left footed young CB, the feeling is a bit mixed at the moment. He is quite good especially for his age but given that his price may skyrocket, just wondering if there are obvious chinks in the armour and other (cheaper) options may be a better punt.
Completely agree. On Van De Ven too who looked quite imperious but had a horrible game against Newcastle. Put yourself in shoes of Man United, what would be the price we should be willing to pay for Branthwaite? I think that anything less than 50 million in the current market would be good but anything beyond that isn't worth the risk and will put a lot of pressure on the young lad.He's looked quite lethargic recently. People need to remember that it's only his first PL season and he's a young CB, he will make mistakes. Rio and Vidic didn't become Rio and Vidic in a day. They made mistakes, VVD still makes mistakes..Van de Ven had a horror show on the weekend etc.
It's understandable you wouldn't want to spend more than that when you weigh up risk. Obviously selling clubs have a different viewpoint in the current market and weighing up his HG status, value to the club, potential etc.Completely agree. On Van De Ven too who looked quite imperious but had a horrible game against Newcastle. Put yourself in shoes of Man United, what would be the price we should be willing to pay for Branthwaite? I think that anything less than 50 million in the current market would be good but anything beyond that isn't worth the risk and will put a lot of pressure on the young lad.
Yep. Even if we don't we are going to need to sell players before June 30th. Personally I'd try keep Branthwaite and sell Onana. Realistically we might lose both.Would he be cheaper if Everton go down?
