Javier Hernandez | 2015/16 Performances

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Important thing for me is that he keeps getting into the positions and keeps making the runs. Always trying.
 

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This is a bit ridiculous. He misses a couple of chances and he should suddenly be shipped out? How about the numerous awful games Rooney had? Is no wonder he looks disheartened, Rooney can play awfully for months yet still be guaranteed starting spot but Hernandez is crucified for missing a few chances, which to be honest can happen to any striker, especially ones that are lacking match fitness/sharpness due to minimal playing minutes... He needs a run in the team but thus will never happen due to rooneys position. I'm happy at least he got into these goal sorting positions tonight and against Newcastle. If he played 90 minutes more often he probably would have gotten into these positions even more and that would lead to higher chances of scoring and add to confidence etc. I feel sorry for the guy.
 

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This time last week people said he deserved to be starting ahead of Rooney after a half-decent cameo against Brugge.

Now he should be on the first plane out of Manchester.

Some people really do take 'You're only as good as your last game' to the extreme.

If we keep him, we know exactly what we'll be getting: a quick, lively, energetic striker with a knack for scoring goals off the bench. The same old Hernandez, basically.

If he's prepared to play that role, then it's great to have him here, and he'll win us more than a few points over the season.
Not sure I agree that its the same ole Hernandez. When he first joined he was pretty clinical. His finishing and general confidence in front of goal has noticeably deteriorated in the last couple of seasons IMO.
 

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Bad luck with the penalty and the chance at the end wasn't as easy at it looked. The ball flew in a pace and those things can end up anywhere. He looked like a player bereft of confidence but that can be cured.
Exactly, the sort of night any striker can have. As long as he doesn't make a habit of it we should be able to see past it.

The only question is will he get the game time to build his confidence? 20 minutes here and there and cup games seem to be all he will get, unless there is an injury to Rooney, and its going to be difficult for him to build any rhythm on that basis.
 

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The Hernandez of old would've buried that chance. Give him time, I'm sure with some more minutes under his belt he will score some goals.
 

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Not surprised at this performance as I have seen it before when he has played for Mexico and Manchester United. He is not going to improve as long as he keeps playing second fiddle to other strikers.

He needs a club that will make him their primary striker. A club like Crystal Palace, or Leciester might be a good move for him if he wants to stay in England.
 

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Bad performance but it can happen to anyone. At least he got in to good positions which is more than you could say for Rooney during much of his dry spell.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if it's Giggs who has had a word with Van Gaal about taking a closer look at Hernandez and giving him more chances this season. Van Gaal was quick to loan him out last season and not much has changed since then. Three excellent chances to score this season, and all were poorly taking and are signs of a player whose confidence is very low.

There's hope for him, though. The most positive aspect of his play is his movement which has been class and I think we should stick with him as back up. He's not done too badly and if we utilise him in the same way we did in 12/13, then he'll flourish. Obviously it depends on Van Gaal who has shown his ruthless side this summer, so we'll soon find out if he deems him good enough as back up.
 

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Why are people pretending that this is his first bad game?

He's been shit since Fergie retired. I don't know what's happened to him, but everything he offered, he no longer offers. He used to be great at finding little pockets of space in the area, snatching chances out of nowhere, and putting the ball in the back of the net by any means necessary. Now, he's either offside or looking like he couldn't hit a barn door.

His goal scoring record at Madrid wasn't bad, but when you consider how freely they score, it was still pretty poor. 9 in 33 doesn't look shabby, but he scored 6 of those in games that Madrid dominated, and subsequently battered the opposition. The only goals of note he scored came against Atletico in the CL quarters, and Celta Vigo in the league. They clearly didn't want to keep him, not even as back-up.

You can potentially write off the Moyes season because everyone was shit, but there's no denying that Hernandez was shit during that time either. He's been pretty shit for Mexico for quite a while now too.

I think Hernandez was excellent under Fergie, but for whatever reason, he's just not up to the standard we need anymore. We're relying on a guy that can't buy a goal, hopefully finding some form from 3 seasons ago. It's all well and good saying he needs game time, but he's made 88 club appearances and 31 international appearances since the start of 2013. If he needs more than 110 games in 2 and half years to remember how to do more than stand offside and miss sitters, then we could be in for a long wait.

I'm all for sentimentality when it comes to charity events and testimonials, but when we've got ambitions of being a title challenging side again, we can't afford passengers.
 

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Not a good run out for him and he doesn't look like the cheery little chap he used to be, still, I think his spot is safe for this season.
 

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Needs to move I think. Doesn't look happy, and that is a real shame.
 

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It's weird. When he came on, I didn't even see him as our player. He doesn't look happy either.
 

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It's weird. When he came on, I didn't even see him as our player. He doesn't look happy either.
I wouldn't be happy either missing those chances! On another night he bags 3 and that was coming on as a sub!
 

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I think Hernandez was excellent under Fergie, but for whatever reason, he's just not up to the standard we need anymore. We're relying on a guy that can't buy a goal.

On another night he gets a hatrick from a subs appearance! Yet he can't buy a goal? I mean come on to feck! His touch yes or link up play feel free to criticise but the one thing we all know about him is he's good for a goal!!
 

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I think he will score goals for us and with just him and rooney in the squad, am sure he will get plenty of game-time for him to be happy.
His body language was weird today. Seemed unhappy, not sure why.
 

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He's simply not good enough and for some reason doesn't have the killer instinct around the box that he had for us years ago.

And I don't buy the whole, "well he gets into good positions" - that doesn't mean shit if you're terrible at finishing.

I'd much rather have Wilson be the 2nd striker to Rooney, it's really a no-brainer in my opinion.
 

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He's simply not good enough and for some reason doesn't have the killer instinct around the box that he had for us years ago.

And I don't buy the whole, "well he gets into good positions" - that doesn't mean shit if you're terrible at finishing.

I'd much rather have Wilson be the 2nd striker to Rooney, it's really a no-brainer in my opinion.
I think 1 bad match doesn't make him a terrible finisher. We put up with Welbeck for so long expecting him to get better on his finishing skills and it never came.
 

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On another night he gets a hatrick from a subs appearance! Yet he can't buy a goal? I mean come on to feck! His touch yes or link up play feel free to criticise but the one thing we all know about him is he's good for a goal!!
I believe that defences had grown used to him and his lack of talent is being exposed time and time again
 

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I believe that defences had grown used to him and his lack of talent is being exposed time and time again
His misses today have nothing to do with defenses learning him. He was alone in front of goal.

If he stays (which I hope is going to happen), he will give us few important goals. He is not done yet even though he looks different from Hernandez of 2011.
 
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Ship him out. He's not up to the job and never has been. Never first choice for Fergie. Never first choice for Moyes. Never first choice for Ancelotti. Never first choice for Van Gaal. How much more evidence does anyone need?
 

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Ship him out. He's not up to the job and never has been. Never first choice for Fergie. Never first choice for Moyes. Never first choice for Ancelotti. Never first choice for Van Gaal. How much more evidence does anyone need?
We don't need a first choice striker. We need a striker who is ready to play second fiddle to Rooney.
 

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Plenty of nonsense here. He looks rusty but still managed to get incredible chances. Everyone can have a bad day at the office but only at Manchester United will people call for your head after one bad appearance. Rooney went 10 games without a goal.
 

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Plenty of nonsense here. He looks rusty but still managed to get incredible chances. Everyone can have a bad day at the office but only at Manchester United will people call for your head after one bad appearance. Rooney went 10 games without a goal.
It's not just one game. He's not up to the job, pure and simple.
 

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I don't know what to think... On one hand, you could make the lack-of-game-time excuse for him, but it's not the first time I've seen him miss those sitters. I suppose it's just a vicious cycle with him, he desperately needs a goal from somewhere.
 

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Wayne went 10 games (starting all of them) and scored feck all. Chicha has not even played 90 mins, yet he is crap. I can tell that Chicha's runs and speed are pretty effective. Once he puts his shooting boots on, he will get his goals. He needs time and match rhythm, that is the only way for a striker to gain some sharpness. I am sure Van Gaal will not write the Little Pea off yet.
 

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So what you're saying is we wouldn't miss out if we sold him.
Not exactly. I expect Chicha to become better (when compared to Wilson and Fellaini) if he gets a string of games. But as it stands, Chicha is a decent enough backup for us or off the bench player.
 

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He does not look like a happy man. Looks very depressed, I wish the best for him.
 

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I felt bad for him, on a regular day he'd have ended the game with a brace and cemented his status as the second striker. Now he has to watch his back for the next week or so.
 

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That penalty, fair enough. But fluffing that cross from Young was some achivement
It happens. He's low on confidence so he played the safe option. Sometimes they roll up on you and go over. A confident striker would hit that with their laces and put it through the netting.
 
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