This view has been rather debunked by a few of the polling academic types. See thread below.
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Interesting - this is why I love elections so many permutations!
There was also this poll last year
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ater-manchester-constituencies-voted-15026186
Although it was commissioned by pro-remain factions it claims that 1/6 leave constituencies were now remain.
Not as ridiculous as you dragging up posts from weeks ago that any sane person would have erased from their memory
but anyway, it means nothing, because the Lib Dems have zero chance of becoming the largest party and thus their policy will to all intents and purposes remain as it was. That is, backing a second referendum and campaigning for Remain. It's like Corbyn saying Labour's policy is a second referendum but if the Conservatives and Brexit Party fail to win a single seat then he'll revoke Article 50 as well.The conclusions of that seem to be to win votes off other remain parties (better to do an alliance), hope non-voters now vote (these tend to be leavers) and erm it's not all brexit.
I really don't see how it debunks what was stated at all. Labour will lose leave seats if they're not careful and the vast majority of Tory remain votes will go to the Lib Dems.
If you think the Lib Dems will win the next general election then the comprehension issue lies with you. Look again at the stance clarified by the Lib Dems in my previous post to you. This is the only likely influence they could have.
I never said Lib Dems will win the next election. But thank you for confirming that arguing with you would be a waste of time for both of us.
That's an interesting way of saying "I was talking bollocks but never mind"Not as ridiculous as you dragging up posts from weeks ago that any sane person would have erased from their memory
The point is that "leave seats" is a misleading term. They aren't comprised of 100% leave voters and the idea that Labour being more open to Leave will give them net more votes in those seats is simply in ignorance of how the voting in those seats actually breaks down.
Surely if labour come out as completely pro-remain they’re bound to win a brave few seats in England? Do some kind of deal with the Lib Dems and give the SNP a free run at Scotland where they’ll likely clean up. Bound to be able to form a government between the 3
Only reason would be that the Lib Dems aren’t actually gonna get enough support to do anything worthwhile so it might seem like a wasted vote. Well that and they are the Lib Dems so feck em.
Agreed. You have been considering what would happen if Lib Dems become the largest party. You certainly live up to your username.
Tough week at work? Feel free to message me mate
Lib Dem supporters a bit agitated.
Tory supporters disappeared.
Corbyn must be doing well.
Tory supporters disappeared.
Corbyn must be doing well.
Oh look Watson doing something controversial so he's in the news.
You never fecking see him in parliament or elsewhere but wait for a opening to be contradictory and there he is.
His position is ridiculous there's no government that has a mandate to sit in the time a referendum would take.
You never fecking see him in parliament or elsewhere but wait for a opening to be contradictory and there he is.
His position is ridiculous there's no government that has a mandate to sit in the time a referendum would take.
Johnson on the ropes, the opposition parties largely united against no deal and successfully cooperating in parliament and Watson thinks now's the time to show some pointless disunity? What a self-centered twat.
...And Labour at mid 20s in the polls, mustn't forget that.
Yes and Watson acting out is really going to positively affect that needle.
Unity on Brexit went out the window some time ago to be fair. The Shadow Chancellor, Shadow Home Sec and Shadow Foreign Sec would all campaign against Labour's Brexit deal in a referendum, last I saw.
#SackTomWatson trending on Twitter
So Corbyn is still convinced he is going to get a better deal .
Everyone laughs at Johnson because he's going to solve the backstop. Haha.
What magical power does Corbyn have. Remembering he's going to stop FoM and the UK can do their own deals. Haha.
They are both a joke.
Showing a lack of understanding that Corbyn has no power to sack Tom Watson.
People are finally waking up to Watson being nothing more than a wrecker? Blimey.
Corbyn actually cares what happens to people. The others don't.
I think Labour policy is Corbyn will obtain a better deal and then campaign against it. I just don't know what to say, it's beyond parody.
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Wow, they've got him this time.
Seriously hope we see more of this in the run up to the election. People might actually start waking the feck up as to what the agenda is judging by the comments under that.
EXCLUSIVE: Commie Corbyn has sit-down sex with innocent cat
It's been well known for decades that Corbyn and McDonnell were IRA sympathisers at the time and essentially Republicans.
Corbyn is utterly incompetant and has been an absolute disaster for the country. Any other political leader in opposition would have set out strongly a position on Brexit and completely slaughtered the Tories who have been an absolute shambles. Labour have been just as much a shambles as the Tories. We have somehow managed to get the two most incompetant political leaders in the two most powerful positions in the UK Parliament.
McDonnell was against the peace process wasn't he?
I'm not sure to be honest but I'd imagine that given their views it's quite likely neither really supported it.
Who for example ?
Does he feck!
Anybody - literally anybody. The fact is his message has been all over the place, totally incoherant and he has failed to offer up Labour as a viable alternative to the Tories on the biggest political issue of this generation. It is hard to think of any leader of any opposition in the last 30 years who would not have been able to at least have a clear message and see the opportunity. It's like having the biggest open goal in history and then failing to kick the ball. It is unforgivable and he is just as guilty as the Tories at causing this mess.
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If you think Corbyn is just as guilty as the Tories then you're a fecking idiot who deserves no deal brexit. Shame about the rest of us.
Interesting that you find that funny. I'm bloody furious about it. I'm a natural left-leaning voter who probably would vote Labour if I voted in England - Corbyn has been an absolute disaster for Labour and the country.