Bravo. I feel his pain.
Jesse Lingard considered break from football because of mental health issues
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
Good to see him coming out. Hope it will keep on getting better for him.
Hopefully he's out of the other end of it. Feel bad for giving him brief.
Who'd a thunk it! But more power to him.
I get what you mean. But being publicly criticised is part and parcel of the job that they have chosen to do. And the job in which they receive 5 years of my salary on a weekly basis.
Kudos to him for sharing his story and turning the situation around.
Good lad Jesse.
I found a lot of the abuse he got on here disgusting, and frankly should of been bannable.
I found a lot of the abuse he got on here disgusting, and frankly should of been bannable.
It's definitely a positive thing that he's been able to speak about it publicly. Mental health is already stigmatized, but it seems to be even more so when it is someone who is successful and wealthy, as if all of that means they have no reason to be depressed or anxious. I'm glad he found the strength to talk about it openly, and glad he's - hopefully - getting the better of it.
The more people in high places who can speak about mental health, the more doors are opened for people who perhaps feel ashamed or see it as some sort of weakness.
The more people in high places who can speak about mental health, the more doors are opened for people who perhaps feel ashamed or see it as some sort of weakness.
Correct. I've recently undertaken a course to be a Mental Health First Aider and my god it was so eye opening how so few men open up about this and how serious it is.
As long as the criticism is fair I would say that it's generally fine. It's harsh to be publicly criticised and I hope it doesn't put them in a bad situation if they see/hear it, but it does come with being in a business which sells your product to the public.
Unfortunately the world we live in today basically encourages everybody to go far far overboard with their criticisms. It's how you get attention, and people getting attention that way encourages others to then do the same. Look at the rubbish that these players get. Even on this relatively (in internet terms) moderated and nice forum it reaches ridiculous levels far too often. If it's a player that you don't like, people constantly call them utter shit, Championship level, one of the worst players you've seen at this level, etc. Not even going into the personal abuse that some players get, most notably Pogba but others like Lingard to a lesser extent. Hell, I've seen a couple of posters calling Lingard all kinds of names recently and using his current good form as a reason to abuse him for supposedly not trying in his latter period with us. It only gets worse on other sites like twitter.
I also don't think wages should come into it at all, and doing so is very much a form of victim blaming. 'You make a lot of money so therefore it's your fault you are getting incredible amounts of abuse.' feck that. If it's somebody who is in a position of power and who is actively screwing over others, that's one thing. But massively exaggerated criticism and abusing young people (and pretty much all players are young when it comes down to it) who are just providing a service to entertain people? The way I see it, somebody doing that is just pathetic and I wish more sensible people would call it out and demand the criticism is kept to fair levels.
I truly believe these players with larger social media presences are at a much higher risk of mental health strains. I understand the marketing reasons for having such a presence, but it puts you out there for so much abuse that you would otherwise be able to ignore.
He should make a permanent move in the summer and have a fresh new start. That would help him
I don't entirely disagree, but there's a wide gulf between constructive criticism—and honestly, how often do you hear people offer sincere constructive criticism?—and abuse. Most of the stuff you read from fans tends to be closer to the latter.
Also, "the job they've chosen to do." This is problematic too. Many players were talented at a young age and their parents likely pushed them until their talent was noticed by coaches as they progressed through the football pyramid. It's not something most people set out to be: a top player in a top league earning top money. As with many other things, it's something that happens to them, often without a plan. You don't go straight from being a kid who can kick a ball well in a park to a famous footballer in the English Premier League. I'm not sure why they deserve different treatment on the basis of the profession they find themselves in.
Exactly.
I wonder how many on this thread were the ones constantly ripping into him on other threads.
Good to see him resilient and continue working through it.
Got to applaud Jesse for being open about his problems. For too long blokes have been afraid to admit to mental health problems for fear of being ridiculed. By admitting his problems I hope he encourages others to seek help. Good luck, Jesse.
A few posters swiftly deleting posts in the west ham player thread
He's pretty inspirational, in my opinion.
Right now he walks into our team. We have never seen this Jesse Lingard. Against Chelsea right now he is gliding past players like they're not there. He must not leave United.
Well done for him to speak out and go through it. In all fairness, not many United played would receive such harsh criticism (borderline abuse?) in the last years, must have been quite tough for a local lad to consistently read and hear he’s nowhere near good enough and championship level.