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IIRC Carrick was signed after this failed transfer, so it worked superbly for us.
Fair points. We also have our fair share of those players who played 300-400 games and won tons of trophies.
That's because he played in an era where we had great players coming out of our ears and he was the unassuming guy in the background doing a lot of the crucial work. He's bound to not come up a lot in discussions in an oppo forum, but for those of us that watched him every week for over a decade, he is well loved and remembered.Hardly ever hear his name mentioned, could've been one for the players you forgot existed thread.
Yeah if I was a United fan, I would be pretty happy with how all that worked out, 16m for basically holding his contract for a couple of days? Then turning that money into Carrick. Not bad at all.IIRC Carrick was signed after this failed transfer, so it worked superbly for us.
When your greatest legends include Roman Abramovich and a proven racist full kit wanker - then nobody's going to blame you for scraping the barrel trying to find some moreYou had a "legends" game recently and Wes Brown's little brother got a game. If he counts then Mikel absolutely does!
Not every club can have fine upstanding gentleman such as Ryan Giggs or George Best in their pantheon of heroes.When your greatest legends include Roman Abramovich and a proven racist full kit wanker - then nobody's going to blame you for scraping the barrel trying to find some more
Fair do'sNot every club can have fine upstanding gentleman such as Ryan Giggs or George Best in their pantheon of heroes.
We won more though, so he lost out on that.There seems to be three different discussions here?
1. Was Mikel a Chelsea legend? Who cares
2. Was he better than Carrick? Hell no
3. Title - Was choosing Chelsea over United a better thing for him? Probably yes given that they won so much during that period
Not with him we wouldn't haveWe won more though, so he lost out on that.
I what context were those remarks made? They did actually ban posters in 2005 you know. No idea why you’d have to drag this up anyway.https://www.redcafe.net/threads/we-are-losing-john-obi-mikel.76582/
These would be instant bans today:
WTF. United dominated for 7 years after he signed.There seems to be three different discussions here?
1. Was Mikel a Chelsea legend? Who cares
2. Was he better than Carrick? Hell no
3. Title - Was choosing Chelsea over United a better thing for him? Probably yes given that they won so much during that period
What?Who wants a CL metal? Not him.
My apologies, I thought he left the club long before he did, must be confusing him with someone else, thank you for bringing it to my attention.What?
We accept you apologies, duffer is a most forgiving person, he is thankful that your attention has now had this brought to it.My apologies, I thought he left the club long before he did, must be confusing him with someone else, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
He did look very promising as a number 10. Was very creative and dangerous as a teen and it was a shame to see that beaten out of him by Jose's Chelsea.Every Nigerian I know lamented the fact he was turned into a defensive midfielder. Was he any good in an attacking role? Because he seemed so limited with the ball
In my defense it looks like he was on the bench a fair bit, but I was horribly wrong. In fact his best run of games seems to have been when they won the CL, so fair shakes to him, he fully deserved that medal as a starter.We accept you apologies, duffer is a most forgiving person, he is thankful that your attention has now had this brought to it.
That didn't actually work aswell as made out. Actually use to invite more pressure.Really? I thought he was a very decent but unspectacular player. Michael Essien- now there was a player for Chelsea that i wished we'd signed.
I think every oppo fan died a little inside when Chelsea brought Mikel on as a sub to protect a slender lead. That's probably what I remember most about him; just the "Oh god they're bringing him on. The bus is well and truly parked"
It's a common misconception that it was Jose that turned him into a (full time) DM.He did look very promising as a number 10. Was very creative and dangerous as a teen and it was a shame to see that beaten out of him by Jose's Chelsea.
Today he would have probably been a creative 6, but even that otherworldly passing range gradually disappeared over time till he became an average, purely defensive player
I think he would have developed differently and played with Carrick if he signed for us.Not with him we wouldn't have
Can someone explain this to me, have no memory of it.Imagine this happening in 2022
Yeah I think I remember one game where RVP equalized in the last minute, and I think Mikel might have come on in that game. Still, it was always depressing to see him come on for Chelsea- not because anyone rated him highly it's just Chelsea were already pretty well drilled and organised and to see him come on was just yet another defensive screen you had to bypass.That didn't actually work aswell as made out. Actually use to invite more pressure.
The two games in Manchester in 14/15 prime examples.
It's a photo of United signing Erling Haaland on a pre-contract before Dortmund hijacked the deal.Can someone explain this to me, have no memory of it.
At no point he was one of the best CDMs in the world.Not sure how some are saying he was bang average. He wasn’t a flash type player.
But in his peak he was one of the best CDMs in the world at the time. Was massively important for them.