John Murtough Sack Watch

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He was probably decent at his original job, someone just made a terrible mistake in promoting him.

Edit: just read it was Joel and Woody's decision. What a surprise! Thank feck Ineos are running the club now.
 

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He was probably decent at his original job, someone just made a terrible mistake in promoting him.

Edit: just read it was Joel and Woody's decision. What a surprise! Thank feck Ineos are running the club now.
Who else's decision would it have been?
 

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Ed, Arnold and Murtough are down. Now we need to go for the main culprits the Glazers! Hope SJR take over in full soon so that we can have more real change!

I am still sceptical with the Glazers still the major share holder.
 

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Thought this would be bigger news. But I suppose it’s been expected for a while

Imagine if this had broke a year ago
 

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He was probably decent at his original job, someone just made a terrible mistake in promoting him.

Edit: just read it was Joel and Woody's decision. What a surprise! Thank feck Ineos are running the club now.
Supposedly Inter Miami wanted him, so Ed Woodward offered him the Football Director role to keep him at the club. They knew it would be unpopular with the fans, so wedged Fletcher in as Technical Director to make it more palatable.
 

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  • Sir Jim Ratcliffe, co-owner of Manchester United, said: "We want to thank John for his loyal service over many years, and for his support and integrity during this period of transition.
  • "He leaves with our best wishes for the future."
  • Joel Glazer, co-chairman of Manchester United, said: "After 11 years of tireless work for the club, John has mutually agreed with us that now is the right time to step aside and allow the new football leadership structure to be put in place.
  • "He will always be welcome back at Manchester United as a friend of the club."
  • The Caf: thank feck for that. feck off mate!!
    :lol:
 

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Ashworth right around the corner then. Wouldn't make sense for Murthough to leave without that being in place tbh.
 

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Supposedly Inter Miami wanted him, so Ed Woodward offered him the Football Director role to keep him at the club. They knew it would be unpopular with the fans, so wedged Fletcher in as Technical Director to make it more palatable.
Is that actually true? We got nervous, offered him a significant role and tied him down for fear he’d go to Inter Miami, as opposed to Inter Milan? :lol:
 

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Ashworth right around the corner then. Wouldn't make sense for Murthough to leave without that being in place tbh.
Ineos probably counting for Willcox and Berrada to fill the gap temporarily until Ashworth will come
 

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The first time in 11 years someone's asked him what he does and he's tendered his resignation...
JR: So in our review John can you explain what you do here so we can assess you?
JM: I’ll get my coat
 

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I bet Murtough made a nice dent on the corporate credit card that were recently confiscated from staff at the club.
 

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Was unbelievably put in a position he was under qualified for and was out of his depth, think he’s done some good work at the club but he shouldn’t of been given what is probably at this moment the most difficult directors job in the world, right decision.
 

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For people saying he's done feck all in 11 years, it's likely that Murtogh was a big influence in the recruitment of Garnacho, Kambwala and Amad, as well as the having a big impact academy that we are now bearing fruit from.
 

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He was probably decent at his original job, someone just made a terrible mistake in promoting him.

Edit: just read it was Joel and Woody's decision. What a surprise! Thank feck Ineos are running the club now.
Well by the accounts that are out there he did a really good job with the youth set up. But sadly given how poorly he perfomed in the last couple of years in his more recent capacity we have to go scorched earth and deny he ever did anything good.
 

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See that Peter Hall saying we are looking at Ward for Head of Recruitment. Personally I will wait for a proper source like Ornstein. He seems very quiet on appointing one which could be good or bad thing
 

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Best thing about this guy being sacked is the briefs about INEOS rating him and the Murtough Madness Munchers rushing in to say 'see, we told you so'.

In reality, it was probably a bit of an olive branch from INEOS to big him up publicly, so he can be hired by some other fool at another club.

Smart play and it should teach some of you that corporate politics playing out publicly is not the same as reality. This goes double for that fraud we have 'coaching' the first team.

If INEOS retain this form, he'd be sacked off promptly after we fail to win the FA cup or a couple of days later if we pull off the unlikely cup win. At least I hope so because all the structure in the world won't make us play better on the pitch.
 

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all the structure in the world won't make us play better on the pitch.
Yeah, it probably will. Specialists in specific roles is always going to trump one guy taking an overview and control of the entire organisation. It will also free up the head coach to focus on the pitch and not the boardroom or scouting/transfer market.
 

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His work with the academy is genuinely stellar, getting us back to the top in a more competitive market than ever before and with the glazers as bosses. Do we invest as much in youth football as city now? Is that the main change? Anyway I wouldn’t have minded him staying on in some role but not heartbroken either. It’s hard to forgive any of them at this point but hopefully his academy players make a real difference and his legacy at that level is acknowledged.

We have more professional level talent coming through than I’ve ever seen before .
 

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Absolutely totally inept at his job. He was just collecting paychecks for 11 years. Didn't think it was as bad as it actually was!
 

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I was one of the first to turn again the man at a time when most people were jerking off at him hiring data analysts and sports scientists. While there's no doubt that I am happy to see him gone I do worry about next summer. March-April is when player agents are contacted regarding transfers. Yet United lack the boots on the ground needed to initiate such contacts. Considering that our transfer strategy depends heavily on us being able to sell a huge amount of players while concurrently being able to spot bargains then that's quite concerning.
 

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I was one of the first to turn again the man at a time when most people were jerking off at him hiring data analysts and sports scientists. While there's no doubt that I am happy to see him gone I do worry about next summer. March-April is when player agents are contacted regarding transfers. Yet United lack the boots on the ground needed to initiate such contacts. Considering that our transfer strategy depends heavily on us being able to sell a huge amount of players while concurrently being able to spot bargains then that's quite concerning.
Brailsford and Blanc will fill in on the ground I'm sure until we get the big guns in place.
 

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Brailsford and Blanc will fill in on the ground I'm sure until we get the big guns in place.
Blanc is a David Gill on steroids. He's fantastic on infrastructure, in balancing books, sponsorships and finding money out of nowhere but he's not a football person. Brailsford is in cycling. His philosophy is in the right place but he's not a football person
 

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Oh no, not Murtough!

Besides the obvious benefit of getting this unqualified hack out to get someone competent, imagine the money we are going to save that was spent on his frequent Spanish trips for Tapas.

In celebration of his departure, I am going to read one of the many essays written on him by the resident Caf hagiographers. Good times!
 

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I was one of the first to turn again the man at a time when most people were jerking off at him hiring data analysts and sports scientists. While there's no doubt that I am happy to see him gone I do worry about next summer. March-April is when player agents are contacted regarding transfers. Yet United lack the boots on the ground needed to initiate such contacts. Considering that our transfer strategy depends heavily on us being able to sell a huge amount of players while concurrently being able to spot bargains then that's quite concerning.
So business as usual then?
 

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Okay, I've been hesitant to ask this as I'll likely be berated. I've also no idea where to post it, I didn't want to start a new thread as we seem to have plenty on the subject so, sorry to the mods if it's in the wrong place:

As an older chap who doesn't have much of an idea on the hierarchy of a global business/football club, could somebody please put together a list or org chart with all our new off-field recruits, who they report to etc, and what their role will entail. Also, and sorry for my ignorance, how their role will impact the club and make us better than we are at the moment.

Nice one.