Jose Mourinho Press Conference 18/07/2018 - 5pm BST

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A top quality manager would be excited to see what the kids can offer. Make the best of what you have. He is basically saying "I can't do anything with kids". Such a lemon.
Maybe there's not enough talent in the youth academy to be excited about. With all due respect. We claim to be the biggest and the richest club in the world. Why can't we just back the manager with the players he needs? Maybe woody should have focused on players rather then on tacky sleeve sponsors instead.
 

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I get that feeling very strongly

All other top club's have an air of positivity. Spurs keeping everyone and new stadium. Chelsea always do well with a new manager. Liverpool with their new signings and Klopp. Arsenal are starting a fresh regime.

I was hoping we would shake things up a bit and make a strong "we're coming for the title" statement. But it isn't looking likely. And I can only see our top players becoming more an more unhappy under Jose.
You really do live in a bubble of your own.

Spurs haven't signed anyone and had more players than anyone else in the latter stages of WC.

Chelsea are losing Courtois and there are serious questions about their best player's future.

City just signed one player and their main CM target was snatched from them.
 

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A top quality manager would be excited to see what the kids can offer. Make the best of what you have. He is basically saying "I can't do anything with kids". Such a lemon.
He is the only manager managing a top 6 side who has given numerous first team chances to kids. Pep doesn't play kids regularly, so he isn't a top manager?
 

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Agreed, I'd happily take 4th without any decent cup run if we played entertaining football, our best players signed new contracts and Mourinho still left. Even if our football is even more dreadful this season he'll never get sacked if we win the PL. Hypothetically, would you want to win the PL if it means 3 more years of Mourinho, shit footy and stars wanting to leave?

Before you all jump on me, would you have wanted LVG to win the league in his last year if it meant he was still here serving up 0-0 records? For the longevity of our club, players, and minds - what's the best nightmare scenario with a happy ending (Mou fired)?
  • Finish 2nd with another 20 point gap
  • Reach CL Quarters and go out against Leverkusen
  • Lose to MK Dons 6-0 in first FA Cup game
  • Win League Cup mostly using youngsters
  • Play Sanchez on the right most of the season
  • Nightmares for Ashley Young and Valencia while Shaw and Dalot nail down full-back positions
I believe that if we end up second 10 points behind City or Pool, lose in the CL quarters to a big club and lose both domestic cup finals he'll still be around. No matter how horrible our football is and how many star players that want to leave us.
You're going to get slaughtered for this mate but I agree.

Trophies aren't the be-all-and-end-all of watching football. If they were, we may as well forget watching the matches and just tune in at the end of the year to watch the cups being held aloft. I've been hugely spoilt to enjoy United winning trophies over the last 25 years but I'll keep supporting them even if we don't win another one in the next 25.

The most important thing is enjoying the matches and most of the games last season were dire. So let's hope Mou is gone at the end of the year. I'm still going to get behind him and the team this year but the bigger picture is more important than short-term success.
I have never found football entertaining if we don't fecking win. "We played well but we lost, we just not clinical enough , we didn't defend our lead well , enemy defend so well" al those excuses are seriously no fun mate ,it gave me difficult time to sleep after. For me Defending is an art just like attacking so i enjoy it as much. I don't mind winning 1-0 ugly rather than losing / drawing with "good football" and have to throw all those excuses like scouser.
 
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A top quality manager would be excited to see what the kids can offer. Make the best of what you have. He is basically saying "I can't do anything with kids". Such a lemon.
Which manager out of Klopp, Conte, Guardiola and Poch gave chances to kids last season?

If you want exciting football, league and European success AND to do all this by playing kids all the time, Sky Daddy himself as manager wouldn't be able to achieve that.
 

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Agree with all this. I hope he's gone at the end of the year but let's hope the football's more entertaining this season.
If he does well, I don't want him to go. I'm saying he's here now, let's hope for the best. If he can get us playing in the devastating way Chelsea did at their best, I'd absolutely take that.
 

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I personally think United is making Mourinho clinically depressed. I'm beginning to think that for his mental health and our well being it's best if we part our ways! He has absolutely no fight in him at all......
 

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You really do live in a bubble of your own.

Spurs haven't signed anyone and had more players than anyone else in the latter stages of WC.

Chelsea are losing Courtois and there are serious questions about their best player's future.

City just signed one player and their main CM target was snatched from them.
Spurs have signed key personnel to long term deals. Would we not be on a high if Pogba and De Gea signed new 5 year deals?

When have Chelsea ever had a bad season with a new manager? I'll wait...

Didn't mention city. But they should be confident after winning the league by 20 points

And if I'm in my own bubble, then it's a fecking nice bubble. Not a stranger to being laughed off here for a prediction ("United will end up playing Smalling and Blind at CB" was a big one, got laughed at like hell for that one.. Then they became our defensive partnership!) and it usually ends up being right. Then when I remind people, they go into hiding. Just a month ago I said Real Madrid wouldn't sign Alisson and they'd still try to sign De Gea eventually. I had 17 notifications of people calling me an idiot and laughing at me... oh look... we're half way there.
 

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Some of you guys should really find another hobby. In all threads it is the same moaning and moaning, everyone strenghening (not true) and we are doing nothing (fred and dalot), you are simply toxic.
 

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Maybe there's not enough talent in the youth academy to be excited about. With all due respect. We claim to be the biggest and the richest club in the world. Why can't we just back the manager with the players he needs? Maybe woody should have focused on players rather then on tacky sleeve sponsors instead.
He wanted fellaini, he got him. Wanted mikhtaryan got him then suddenly he was rubbish. Only player he wanted and couldn't get is perisich. If a coach of his reputation n standing cannot inspire some kids or coach them then we are in trouble.
 

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He is the only manager managing a top 6 side who has given numerous first team chances to kids. Pep doesn't play kids regularly, so he isn't a top manager?
How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.
 

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He wanted fellaini, he got him. Wanted mikhtaryan got him then suddenly he was rubbish. Only player he wanted and couldn't get is perisich. If a coach of his reputation n standing cannot inspire some kids or coach them then we are in trouble.
a- We don't know exactly whom he wanted and what we've signed instead.
b- we haven't produced 1 world class player since the class of 92 apart from Pogba of course who had the good sense of leaving United at the time and continue his development elsewhere while we were busy playing Cleverley and Rafael in midfield.

Mou is a proven winner. He won CLs and trebles in less time then SAF did and in different leagues. So I guess we'll better trust him right?
 

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Mhki did not have it. Fellaini is a proven player in the league.


JM needs to get results. We as fans can't have him load up these WC excuses, nor can the fecking board.
 

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I don't get some of the people here. They seem to take great pleasure in talking shite about their own club. You guys are tedious. I'm sorry but Arsenal should be the perfect club for you, not United.

I bet the same people also moaned a lot during SAF era, blaming the club and/or the manager for every little thing They do wrong and never praising them for things They get right. Childrens.
 
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A top quality manager would be excited to see what the kids can offer. Make the best of what you have. He is basically saying "I can't do anything with kids". Such a lemon.
What he is saying is: I can't work with those players that are going to be my squad this season.
 

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How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.
So... you make a claim, immediately begin backtracking and moving goalposts after asking people to counter the claim, make excuses for a prominent manager who is the antithesis of the claim, and proceed to make further claims about how a rival club structures practices differently than we do (based on..?).
 

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So... you make a claim, immediately begin backtracking and moving goalposts after asking people to counter the claim, make excuses for a prominent manager who is the antithesis of the claim, and proceed to make further claims about how a rival club structures practices differently than we do (based on..?).
Funny post, isn't it :lol:
 

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How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.
There's some shit spouted in this thread but this is my favourite.
 

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He said, he doesn't know about the incomings, but that means he doesn't know if the clubs will accept our offers.

I think we definitely will buy Sandro and RW.
 

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So many assumptions and making things up in this thread.
we may not have the facts on our side but God damn it we will still perceiver. We will wait another quarter of a century(actually more) to see if pool win something so that we can say "you see I told you so, Klopp is better than Jose and pool are better than United" despite the fact by then they both will likely be dead.
 

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How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.
Interested to know why McTominay doesn't count?
 

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Interested to know why McTominay doesn't count?
Not flashy enough, not a winger, too tall, Scottish, Mourinho's lapdog, Mourinho trying to prove a point, Mourinho doesn't rate him, actually prolonged contract with Fellaini so Mourinho must hate him, pick one.
 

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And it was only given to people who predicted one country. Multiple winner guesses like this:
England or France

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Didn't get one.
 

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Wow. This thread has been embarrassing.

Mou is not smiling enough. (I thought he looked fairly relaxed and pleased).
Mou does not seem happy that youngsters are getting a chance.
Mou can't be worried about world cup players missing as other top clubs are facing the issue too.
Mctominay can't be considered as a young player given a chance.
Mou is a tool and useless as he does not have sufficient information about any future signings.

I have an irritating and clueless friend who complains about everything. He was complaining about the Lee Grant signing, said that it is short sighted of us that we din't promote a goalie from under 18. The caf On the caf now, People complain about things. People make up things and then complain about them.

It used to be a lot better :-(
 

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How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.
Why not McTominay? Are you serious? First you claim that top manager should play kids, I gave an example that Jose has given numerous chances to McTominay. Rashford plays so much for us even though he isn't good enough for this level currently. Then you make a 180 by saying that kids should be playing dead rubbers and a few cup games. Pep doesn't play kids because he has two first XIs. Do you even know the second XI are pep's signings? Or they just happen to roam around the etihad and magically found their way into the man city squad?
Where do you think Scott trained when he started so many games for us? Or rashford? Or lets say dead rubber games where mitchell, axel and harrop played? Why do you think so many youngsters are in the US tour?