The Mitcher
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What a shambles this thread is.
Maybe there's not enough talent in the youth academy to be excited about. With all due respect. We claim to be the biggest and the richest club in the world. Why can't we just back the manager with the players he needs? Maybe woody should have focused on players rather then on tacky sleeve sponsors instead.A top quality manager would be excited to see what the kids can offer. Make the best of what you have. He is basically saying "I can't do anything with kids". Such a lemon.
You really do live in a bubble of your own.I get that feeling very strongly
All other top club's have an air of positivity. Spurs keeping everyone and new stadium. Chelsea always do well with a new manager. Liverpool with their new signings and Klopp. Arsenal are starting a fresh regime.
I was hoping we would shake things up a bit and make a strong "we're coming for the title" statement. But it isn't looking likely. And I can only see our top players becoming more an more unhappy under Jose.
He is the only manager managing a top 6 side who has given numerous first team chances to kids. Pep doesn't play kids regularly, so he isn't a top manager?A top quality manager would be excited to see what the kids can offer. Make the best of what you have. He is basically saying "I can't do anything with kids". Such a lemon.
Agreed, I'd happily take 4th without any decent cup run if we played entertaining football, our best players signed new contracts and Mourinho still left. Even if our football is even more dreadful this season he'll never get sacked if we win the PL. Hypothetically, would you want to win the PL if it means 3 more years of Mourinho, shit footy and stars wanting to leave?
Before you all jump on me, would you have wanted LVG to win the league in his last year if it meant he was still here serving up 0-0 records? For the longevity of our club, players, and minds - what's the best nightmare scenario with a happy ending (Mou fired)?
I believe that if we end up second 10 points behind City or Pool, lose in the CL quarters to a big club and lose both domestic cup finals he'll still be around. No matter how horrible our football is and how many star players that want to leave us.
- Finish 2nd with another 20 point gap
- Reach CL Quarters and go out against Leverkusen
- Lose to MK Dons 6-0 in first FA Cup game
- Win League Cup mostly using youngsters
- Play Sanchez on the right most of the season
- Nightmares for Ashley Young and Valencia while Shaw and Dalot nail down full-back positions
I have never found football entertaining if we don't fecking win. "We played well but we lost, we just not clinical enough , we didn't defend our lead well , enemy defend so well" al those excuses are seriously no fun mate ,it gave me difficult time to sleep after. For me Defending is an art just like attacking so i enjoy it as much. I don't mind winning 1-0 ugly rather than losing / drawing with "good football" and have to throw all those excuses like scouser.You're going to get slaughtered for this mate but I agree.
Trophies aren't the be-all-and-end-all of watching football. If they were, we may as well forget watching the matches and just tune in at the end of the year to watch the cups being held aloft. I've been hugely spoilt to enjoy United winning trophies over the last 25 years but I'll keep supporting them even if we don't win another one in the next 25.
The most important thing is enjoying the matches and most of the games last season were dire. So let's hope Mou is gone at the end of the year. I'm still going to get behind him and the team this year but the bigger picture is more important than short-term success.
Which manager out of Klopp, Conte, Guardiola and Poch gave chances to kids last season?A top quality manager would be excited to see what the kids can offer. Make the best of what you have. He is basically saying "I can't do anything with kids". Such a lemon.
If he does well, I don't want him to go. I'm saying he's here now, let's hope for the best. If he can get us playing in the devastating way Chelsea did at their best, I'd absolutely take that.Agree with all this. I hope he's gone at the end of the year but let's hope the football's more entertaining this season.
Spurs have signed key personnel to long term deals. Would we not be on a high if Pogba and De Gea signed new 5 year deals?You really do live in a bubble of your own.
Spurs haven't signed anyone and had more players than anyone else in the latter stages of WC.
Chelsea are losing Courtois and there are serious questions about their best player's future.
City just signed one player and their main CM target was snatched from them.
Villas Boas, Scolari.When have Chelsea ever had a bad season with a new manager? I'll wait...
I would count Roberto Di Mateo as well. Was a caretaker, won CL, become manager next season, fired after six months.Villas Boas, Scolari.
They did end both seasons with silverware...Villas Boas, Scolari.
Not with the coaches, they were sacked and the care taker manager won the trophies.They did end both seasons with silverware...
Me too but he won CL when he was given care taker job.I would count Roberto Di Mateo as well
I accept your point but they still technically haven't had a bad season with a new manager then.Not with the coaches, they were sacked and the care taker manager won the trophies.
Whatever floats your boat.I accept your point but they still technically haven't had a bad season with a new manager then.
How did you get your tagline? I predicted France to win the World Cup too, but instead have this one about fox pornWhatever floats your boat.
For posters who didn't have tagline, got this. For posters who already had one, they just retained the old one.How did you get your tagline? I predicted France to win the World Cup too, but instead have this one about fox porn
He wanted fellaini, he got him. Wanted mikhtaryan got him then suddenly he was rubbish. Only player he wanted and couldn't get is perisich. If a coach of his reputation n standing cannot inspire some kids or coach them then we are in trouble.Maybe there's not enough talent in the youth academy to be excited about. With all due respect. We claim to be the biggest and the richest club in the world. Why can't we just back the manager with the players he needs? Maybe woody should have focused on players rather then on tacky sleeve sponsors instead.
How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.He is the only manager managing a top 6 side who has given numerous first team chances to kids. Pep doesn't play kids regularly, so he isn't a top manager?
a- We don't know exactly whom he wanted and what we've signed instead.He wanted fellaini, he got him. Wanted mikhtaryan got him then suddenly he was rubbish. Only player he wanted and couldn't get is perisich. If a coach of his reputation n standing cannot inspire some kids or coach them then we are in trouble.
Maybe he is the new posterboy for a Utd toothpaste sponsorship which hasn't yet been announced."What's the deal with Luke's new teeth?"
He lost the last set in a 14" Meat Feast."What's the deal with Luke's new teeth?"
What he is saying is: I can't work with those players that are going to be my squad this season.A top quality manager would be excited to see what the kids can offer. Make the best of what you have. He is basically saying "I can't do anything with kids". Such a lemon.
So... you make a claim, immediately begin backtracking and moving goalposts after asking people to counter the claim, make excuses for a prominent manager who is the antithesis of the claim, and proceed to make further claims about how a rival club structures practices differently than we do (based on..?).How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.
Funny post, isn't itSo... you make a claim, immediately begin backtracking and moving goalposts after asking people to counter the claim, make excuses for a prominent manager who is the antithesis of the claim, and proceed to make further claims about how a rival club structures practices differently than we do (based on..?).
There's some shit spouted in this thread but this is my favourite.How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.
we may not have the facts on our side but God damn it we will still perceiver. We will wait another quarter of a century(actually more) to see if pool win something so that we can say "you see I told you so, Klopp is better than Jose and pool are better than United" despite the fact by then they both will likely be dead.So many assumptions and making things up in this thread.
Interested to know why McTominay doesn't count?How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.
Not flashy enough, not a winger, too tall, Scottish, Mourinho's lapdog, Mourinho trying to prove a point, Mourinho doesn't rate him, actually prolonged contract with Fellaini so Mourinho must hate him, pick one.Interested to know why McTominay doesn't count?
And it was only given to people who predicted one country. Multiple winner guesses like this:For posters who didn't have tagline, got this. For posters who already had one, they just retained the old one.
Didn't get one.England or France
Kane, Sterling and Alli need to click in the final third. Phil Jones will take care of everything at the back
Why not McTominay? Are you serious? First you claim that top manager should play kids, I gave an example that Jose has given numerous chances to McTominay. Rashford plays so much for us even though he isn't good enough for this level currently. Then you make a 180 by saying that kids should be playing dead rubbers and a few cup games. Pep doesn't play kids because he has two first XIs. Do you even know the second XI are pep's signings? Or they just happen to roam around the etihad and magically found their way into the man city squad?How many kids has he given the proverbial chance? Don't say McTominay. Giving a kid chances is recognizing talent in academy training drafting them into the main team training and giving them games like cups and dead rubber games. We have had none of that, our first 11 players basically all games. Someone like pep has two 1st elevens and it would be pretty hard to give youngsters games. Guess what he does when possible and he does train some with the main team.