I agree and disagree with you. He didn’t show respect at times and his last year was torture but still he added a Carling cup Europa League and our highest finish in 8 years. He disrespected the club you love but he won things for the club you love.
Sorry every manager has loads of mistakes. I’m not falling for the bullshit I was glad to see the back of him but until we do better then he is still our most successful manager in nearly a decade. Ole might play the right players and football is better and more enjoyable but at the end of the day he is far off the things Jose won for us.
It’s starting to look like I’m defending him but what is Ole here for or LVG ? If it’s too get us back to the top then every manager since SAF has failed since he is the most successful manager since. I hope Ole achieves more but still I disliked him but he won us things and performed better than LVG, Moyes and Ole(so far)
Firmino is another unique player, but quite different than Alli IMO. Alli starts as a MF and mostly ends up in the box, while Firmino starts as a ST and is almost always playing outside the box.
Lets not get too excited yet.... Lots of difficult matches coming up over next month or so. If we can get results out of the city, Liverpool, etc games coming up soon then we can talk.
Simply because Jose is not long term. He has a half life of 3 years at all his clubs.
I do not understand how this myth keeps surviving. Who exactly, bar a few odd examples, lasts more than 3 years at a large club nowadays? Especially at clubs that Mourinho has managed.
And so? He had his tenure and it's over. As you say no manager will survive over 3 (not true if you look at the PL winners managers) so he wouldnt have done crap all after his peak 2nd season.
I want to see someone do better than he did before calling his second season crap.
The club he managed ( Madrid and Chelsea ) used to sack manager often so it can't be helped. We are the one who shouldn't sack him looking at how we didn't even get better after he left.
So we should do something different to Chelsea and Real Madrid. Treat Jose as the second coming of SAF. Okay got it.
Yeah, that will never happen.
Finished second with 81 points with all the "deadwood" you mentioned.. If only we used the transfer budget that being given to ole for him, we would be in better place. He will have tottenham challenging this year no doubt about it. I have said since beginning of this season
I said the same thing that he will have Spurs challenging with Spurs on his second season.
He has Kane and Son on his side, and works quite well with Levy based on the amazon documentary. I think he will be fine as long as he delivers top 4. I don't think challenge for title is his task, but to build and sustain Spurs as a top 4 club.
Oh please, DDG dragged that team 2nd place. No one at the club deserved any credit for that season outside of DDG. He was basically the best player in the league.
Ha! The ultimate nightmare for many on here.
He didn't need them to win the league back then and they were clearly not yet ready to handle premier league. With Roman Abramovich you can't say you are building team for the future , It's always about win it now or sack so yeah Mourinho has no time to wait for Salah and KDB to develop.
You can also say he has Drogba and Lampard at Chelsea but so does Avram Grant , Scolari did the later won the league ? He had Eto'o and Milito at Inter but so does Rafael Benitez but did the later won the league ? He has Kane and Son but so does Poch , did the later won anything? Surprise to you is that a good manager made a world class player better. Ole has Martial , Rashford , Pogba , all the fans favorite player ( not jose's favorite ) and we are still trophyless.
So DDG scored all the goals ? We scored more goals and conceded less in that season compared to last season with martial , rashford , greenwood , maguire , awb and all fans favorite players playing regularly. DDG excellent performance were also down to Mourinho setting us up to be compact , DDG is best at being shot stopper , but not so good with the ball and distribution which means he is actually suited better with a team who "park the bus" and force opposition to shot from more save-able position than a team who dominated possession and try to play it from the back. If any DDG needs a coach like Mourinho to thrive , not the other way around.
You've lost it. DDG was the best keeper in the league long before Mou got here. Gosh, we were a pass out from the back possession based team just before Mou got here and DDG was in almost every league team of the year. DDG has been keeping incompetent managers in jobs for a long time, only Ole hasn't had the benefit of his De God ways although he's been great during the start of this season.
KdB was good enough, Jose didnt play him. As with any good player he wanted to leave and had great career. Jose even acted like a twat and said KdB's training performance wasn't good, later KdB said he asked for open training session for all to see.
DDG never won a golden gloves before Mourinho came. People are crediting Ole for "getting the best out of Martial and Rashford" so why people didn't say the same for Mourinho despite the fact that he also got the best of Petr Cech , got the best of Julio Caesar and considering his trophy cabinet it's obvious he also got the best of many players not just GK. It's not coincidence he also got the best of De Gea and probably going to get the best out of Kane , Son and Ndombele.
Of course he couldn't , chelsea is rudeless. i am pretty sure fat Frank is gone at the end of season if they were trophyless again. Would you pick Salah over prime Hazard ? Would you pick KDB over Fabregas / Oscar ? The answer is no , he has to start a game with all his best players , no room for developing players if your aim was to win the league. Beside i think he knows Salah pretty well, he made Ashley Young pocketed his ass whenever we were up against them.
When it's a common theme that he doesn't have time to wait for promising players to develop, well...
Probably got his hand tied on rope at United. Look at the players he bought at spurs. He got 7 new players this season for the cost less than Maguire and the news said most of them were his first choice. But the problem is i don't think United fans would like any of his signing except for Sergio Reguilon , he didn't went after fancy name. He couldn't get the player he wanted at Manchester United because the fans wouldn't like his first choice and Woodward rather listen to fans than listening to him.
And that proves Jose isnt suited for Manchester United.
It looks like we've fixed that "just success" thing with Ole.
I always felt like Mourinho was the only person at the club who actually care about the club and whose ambition matches the club with our stature and resources. The board, players, and even some fans do not have the same ambition , some of them even care more about the players than our club. 2 years since he was sacked we are absolutely going backward instead of progressing. Everything he said about our club and its player were spot on.
The man has gone his entire career like this and we're pretending it's down to Abramovich
Guy really grates me sometimes, especially when he goes into self-preservation mode: "Quick, which other clubs/players can I drag down in this conversation as well."
Harry Kane had to do an interview 'justifying' the penalty ffs. Have Salah or Mane had to do that?
