Him and Moyes need to stop taking jobs immediately after the previous disaster. They need 2 years to completely refresh and reflect. At the moment José is just bringing the toxicity that has built up from club to club into each new job he gets and it’s just massive now. No longer is it the third season it’s the third fecking week. Let’s see what he does in the window but this season has gone for Spurs.
Jose Mourinho | Spurs manager
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This guy will keep failing until he improves his players fitness training. When he was here with us you saw how much our players lacked intensity and workrate. You look at modern managers like klopp, poch and pep and you notice how their players are always in prime condition. Its not that spurs players are not interested but that they're not in good condition. Wasn't Oles first complaint after he took over about player fitness levels?
Watching the game today and you could see how easy it was for Sheffield to score their second and third goal. No urgency from spurs.
I find it amusing and sad watching his downfall.
Watching the game today and you could see how easy it was for Sheffield to score their second and third goal. No urgency from spurs.
I find it amusing and sad watching his downfall.
It’s strange he took it himself, nice comfy gig at sky, still in spotlight and then He went to spurs. Really strange
He needs to take a job where he’s not expected to win. It looks like the only way back for him because he seems to really be struggling with not being as good as he was. His ego probably won’t allow it though.
Mourinho teams use to be extremely motivated team. It seems he has lost that touch. Yesterday was an embarrassment
Tbf, Spurs is not a club where you are expected to win anything, no disrespect.
This is more of a sack watch now really.
Even 2,3 weeks/months back, he was praising the team "the players he wanted" and right after this Sheffield match he now knows the "mentality" of his team.
He was so confrontational at United, the Sevilla game, all that talk about winning against United while he was coach at other clubs. The utter dis - "respect, respect, respect" he has for our club.
Then at Spurs he called it a club with "Great Heritage". And with no transfer kitty at Spurs (while he wasted millions at United and still complaining). My body is readyfor the schadenfreude to enjoy the Miserable One's meltdown
Even 2,3 weeks/months back, he was praising the team "the players he wanted" and right after this Sheffield match he now knows the "mentality" of his team.
He was so confrontational at United, the Sevilla game, all that talk about winning against United while he was coach at other clubs. The utter dis - "respect, respect, respect" he has for our club.
Then at Spurs he called it a club with "Great Heritage". And with no transfer kitty at Spurs (while he wasted millions at United and still complaining). My body is ready
Specialist in Failure 
That was what i've seen at United a lot. Tries to play more attacking football but can't create chances and the defense is a mess; it's park the buss or disaster for him, it's all he is capable of now days.
It was abundantly obvious that Levy and Jose was never going to work. An owner who doesn't like to make big transfers, in an over inflated football market. A manager who demands to sign players he wants, no matter what they cost, while being very vocal when he doesn't get these players.
I have my popcorn ready to see how this car crash ends.
So this is how it felt like to be Glaston back then.
Now it happens to him, while We watch.
Now it happens to him, while We watch.
Spurs should be proactive and cut their loses and go with a different manager, who is hungry for success and will look at the Spurs job as an opportunity to make a name for himself instead of someone like Jose who looks to have no real passion for the job anymore.
Bizzare appointment.
Bizzare appointment.
Moyes will have done well in his last two managerial jobs won’t be?
Really, really shocking that he isn't doing well. If only United fans would've told Spurs fans exactly what was going to happen when this news broke.
I wouldn't say so, he has some of the worst winning ratios ever for a West Ham permanent manager at less than 30%.
It’s amusing how inevitable it was. All Chelsea and Utd fans could see what would happen.
David “I win”’ Moyes has been awful for west ham. Zero surprise
Yep, it's baffling how little emphasis Mourinho seems to place on fitness. It's like he doesn't think it's a big deal even when every other modern manager knows it's crucial.
We were routinely near the bottom for stats about distance covered under him, Ole mentioned how we weren't fit enough when he became manager and I think our terrible end of season last year was because the players were exhausted and unable to carry out the high press like Ole wanted. We look much fitter now, the work off the ball against Brighton was relentless.
From about the 60th minute on last night Spurs looked exhausted. It's a major major flaw with him now.
Bizzare thing is when he returned to us he made Oscar, Willian and Ramires untouchable because of their engines.
Rui Faria was the fitness specialist, I have wondered if something happened between him and Mourinho around 2015 and Rui Faria's inputs was reduced or ignored which led to his departure. Or maybe it's just a coincidence?
I voted yes here thinking he'd win atleast the Audi Cup. Think he'll be sacked before that
thinking about Mourinho at Spurs I actually feel sorry for Spurs fans....well almost.
It's going to get really bad there in the next 6 months. Jose will be dissatisfied with transfer dealings. There will be rifts with Levy. The fans will divide. Players will want out. He's going to stink up the place so much.
It's going to get really bad there in the next 6 months. Jose will be dissatisfied with transfer dealings. There will be rifts with Levy. The fans will divide. Players will want out. He's going to stink up the place so much.
Where are these guys now? I remember Jose loved Oscar
You could be right but what I'll say about it is that this has been coming - it's been coming before Jose got the job. Poch said we needed a 'painful rebuild' and he was right. This is the only reason I'm not turning against Jose right now and why I still feel he needs to be given time to try and sort it out. The club has been a mess for over a year and it's going to take quite a bit of time to turn it around. I don't think changing the manager will do anything because if it was to happen now the next manager will be faced with exactly the same problems. Our recruitment over the past 2 or 3 years is the reason why we are where we are. That is down to one man - Daniel Levy.
It’s the hope that kills you.
chelsea fans said the same thing, Utd fans said the same thing.
I just don't think it's the manager that is the problem right now. If we don't improve considerably by about 10 games into next season then I'll hold my hands up and jump firmly into the Jose out camp but until then I honestly don't blame him for this mess. He needs a summer window (are we even going to get that?) to try and move players on and bring in a few to have a stab at changing things.
You should turn against Mourinho, or at least not support him, while still acknowledging that you need a rebuild. Mourinho is toxic himself, don't do what many United and Chelsea fans did which was to ignore Mourinho's shortcomings and terrible attitude just because the context isn't perfect, that's why you pay him a fortune to mitigate an imperfect situation, he is supposed to be a driving force and instead he is a dead weight.
Oscar's in China, Rami god knows, same last i heardWhere are these guys now? I remember Jose loved Oscar
I don't think he has been toxic at all since he came here - quite the opposite in fact. I've really enjoyed his press conferences and I like his approach and honesty. I've agreed with pretty much everything he has said since he got here and I can see what he is trying to do with the team but clearly there is a LOT of work to do. I'm willing to give him time to do it - I also don't believe in jumping on managers when they haven't really had a fair crack at it. As I've said - if things don't dramatically improve within first quarter of next season then I'll re-evaluate it then but for now I'm way more frustrated and angry with Levy for getting us into this mess in the first place.
Oscar wasn't that old was he? So why's he in China? Were you pulling your hair out when Jose was picking him over Mata?Oscar's in China, Rami god knows, same last i heard
Oscar wasn't that old was he? So why's he in China? Were you pulling your hair out when Jose was picking him over Mata?
Cash was more important to him than his career. To be fair if it was me I might have done the same.
You are reminding me many posters, things get worse with Mourinho, not better.
Conte didn't fancy him and he was off, i think he got a ridiculous contract. And at the time no, i was well and truly at the stage @balaks is currently at where i put my blind/unconditional trust in himOscar wasn't that old was he? So why's he in China? Were you pulling your hair out when Jose was picking him over Mata?
although in hindsight it wasn't selling Mata that was the error, it was a certain Belgium midfielder one week before 
Well we shall see and no doubt I'll continue to get slaughtered in here for supporting our manager. My support is not infinite but as I've said, I don't blame the guy for this right now.
I don't think Levy brought in Mourinho to do a root and branch rebuild. He took the chance that Mourinho could steady the ship and get them into the CL at the end of a difficult season, both in terms of football and the financials. Now he's stuck with a manager who's ill-suited to doing that sort of rebuild in the way it needs to be done and who won't be quiet about his disinclination towards a slow, steady, value-led project.
I get you but at the same time, you still have very good players and he is paid a lot but for some reason people easily ignore that fact. There is no point paying him that much, if he isn't that good, some people are judging Mourinho as if he was Moyes, the expectations have been drastically lowered while his remuneration has stayed the same. For me it's a sign that he is done and everyone knows it but people are still making excuses for his new standards.
Arguing on the internet at midnight.
Top stuff.
(Though maybe it wasn't midnight where you are)
Alot of United fans got the same for backing Ole. He is looking like he can turn it around.
Levy is your biggest worry, will he spend the money? And getting rid of some players. There is no point keeping players because you cant get £40m for them.
I agree with that - based on how Levy has been since he came he will only spend cash if we manage to sell players which is our biggest problem as he simply refuses to sell players for anything less than the price he puts on them. He bids very low on players we need then plays games with the clubs to a point that they no longer want to do business with him - the amount of deals he has single handedly screwed up for us by asking for an additional payment right at the last minute. You wouldn't believe it. Levy is the biggest problem we have as a club in terms of transfers and building a team - off the pitch he is doing wonders but as a fan it's the stuff on the pitch I really care about and he has been absolutely terrible.
They are expected to win most weeks or at least they were. Not necessarily trophies.
The fans expect us to win every match and challenge for the title and all the trophies. That is how it is here now - we may be a bit deluded (we are football fans after all) but we want to win. To suggest we don't is just wrong. The club is aiming to be one of the top clubs in Europe.