Djemba-Djemba
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Took the penalty nicely but other than that he was terrible I thought.
Only player to have scored for every manager post Fergie though.
Only player to have scored for every manager post Fergie though.
For me he needs to go. He wasn’t what we needed when we signed him and was a panic buy at the time.I think this highlights my post. At the very least we let go of a young player who can play on the right while keeping a number 10 to play there. I like mata but it's central or nothing.
It's purely selection for me.Don't know how to judge him. Always seems misused to me somehow, seems more suited to a slower tippy tappy style of football. Seems a lovely guy though, hate to criticise him.
I agree with all your points about him. Might be useful as a squad player if we actually played him in his best position. We almost never do so I would ship him outThe issue isn’t that he’s bad. I think he look worse on the wing or in a front 3.
He needs to alternated in a number 10 position, interlinking with pogba, Herrera and the 3 attackers. I think that’s his best position, it hides his weaknesses.
When you play him on the right, he weakens us on that side. He doesn’t have the physicality for it.
He was always about having a great touch, interlinking, vision, and getting into the right positions.
He never had the physicality, therefore, we should keep him as he won’t age like milk. He can continue being an effective squad man.
Fred nor Pereira have shown anything at United to even suggest they are as good as Mata.We can never play him in the centre as there are better players than him to play in the centre. He is not as good as even Fred or Pereira. He should be sold. If we played Pereira on the right instead of Mata he would have played much better than Mata.
We can never play him in the centre as there are better players than him to play in the centre. He is not as good as even Fred or Pereira. He should be sold. If we played Pereira on the right instead of Mata he would have played much better than Mata.
There's no point selling/releasing a player of his quality who doesn't mind being on the bench. Fred and Pereira haven't done anything to show that they can replace Mata (hell, they aren't even competing for the same position).We can never play him in the centre as there are better players than him to play in the centre. He is not as good as even Fred or Pereira. He should be sold. If we played Pereira on the right instead of Mata he would have played much better than Mata.
Mata is a very good player and has his uses, but it's not a common occurrence that we play with a central attacking midfielder (433 appears the way ahead, although we appeared to use a diamond against spurs), so I'm unsure how much gametime he would get in this position, while I'm sick of shoehorning him into an attacking right positionFred nor Pereira have shown anything at United to even suggest they are as good as Mata.
I hope we resign Mata. He’s not in our starting 11 anymore, but he can provide cover for the #10 position, is extremely professional and can be a good option off the bench depending how the game is going.
So you're basically saying Andreas is a better player than Mata...We can never play him in the centre as there are better players than him to play in the centre. He is not as good as even Fred or Pereira. He should be sold. If we played Pereira on the right instead of Mata he would have played much better than Mata.
Might take a while:Mata is a cracking player, someone who can really make a difference. I'd try and get him to retire here along with Ander.
Has there ever been a more likeable footballer? Does anyone have a bad word to say about him?
Yes exactly. Andreas is better than Mata on the right. Mata never stays there and even in the Newcastle game, Ole could be seen trying to get Mata to stay on the right. Mata is not good enough to play in any other position because we have better players than Mata to play in other positions. Should he be kept as a squad player? I do not know. In a game where the other team is always defending inside their box, would I prefer Mata or Fellaini? I would prefer Fellaini.So you're basically saying Andreas is a better player than Mata...
Really, really nice guy.
But you also said this: "We can never play him in the centre as there are better players than him to play in the centre. He is not as good as even Fred or Pereira."Yes exactly. Andreas is better than Mata on the right. Mata never stays there and even in the Newcastle game, Ole could be seen trying to get Mata to stay on the right. Mata is not good enough to play in any other position because we have better players than Mata to play in other positions. Should he be kept as a squad player? I do not know. In a game where the other team is always defending inside their box, would I prefer Mata or Fellaini? I would prefer Fellaini.
Exactly.But you also said this: "We can never play him in the centre as there are better players than him to play in the centre. He is not as good as even Fred or Pereira."
So you are saying he's not as good as Pereira in the centre, and that Pereira is even better on the wing. Which basically means you think Andreas is a better player than Mata, full stop.
All this about a player (Pereira) who has scored how many goals for United? I think you want, or hope, that Pereira is better than Mata, but there is nothing to back it up, other than your own desperate need for it to be so. Strange, to say the least.
Really is a phenomenal human being. Deserves the success he's had in his career.
I love the way you persist in mentioning this as if it were a widely-recognized truth, a consensus shared by all right-thinking United fans rather than the fantastical yearning of a certain Foxbatt....When you look at the positions that is up for grabs there is only one position. That is on the right wing. Yes Perieria will be better than Mata there. In midfield Fred will be better Mata. The reasons are that Mata is way too slow. He gets dispossessed too easily and he cannot press. Fred is better than him in those things. Fred himself cannot dislodge Pogba, Herrera or Matic.