Theres nothing that can be done. Its too far gone now, to the point this domination has become institutionalised.
I'd say the job here might be easier. A "DoF" that has no clue what he is doing, owners that have no clue about football and are content with a top 4 finish. Imagine that at Bayern.
I think that sums it up and sums up why you get the "the rest of the league don't even try to challenge Bayern" accusations.
Two things Bayern doesn't have that type of rivalries, you are trying to make a parallel that doesn't actually exist, there is no equivalent to Barcelona-Real Madrid or United-Liverpool.
Why should they give a shit about the league?
Who wouldn't do it in their position. We bought the best players from other PL clubs for years as well (although not directly from our rivals, that's special). The funny thing is their denial.
The issue there is that besides historical rivalry, sporting rivalries also develop with time and fierce competition. However, due to the huge financial gap not only from Bayern but from other clubs in Europe, Bundesliga clubs have not been able to build teams with enough players to actually form a sporting rivalry with Bayern to the point where transfers to and from the clubs would be difficult to accomplish.
We don't need a manager right now, so we havent missed out!
Yes that's my point exactly.
Yeah, he was available and we rejected him. It's always about ManUtd, whole footballing world revolves around us. Bayern made their decision only after we rejected Nagelsmann. Same with Pep and City too.
That's what I said, isn't? (Edit: And you too again, just now.
) The gap is too large, and thus effectively the top in Germany consists of one club, and the subtop starts at #2 in the league. And as anywhere, there is no sportive rivalry between the top and subtop, and it's not weird to see a player switch from a subtop club to a top club. (Even though that happens much more rarely in the BL than people are saying here.)Yeah, but if you were to blindly hire a random manager/head coach for both clubs, it would be easier for that person to win the Bundesliga than finish in the top four in England.
In every single league, a rivalry doesn't start because you are 1st and 2nd in a single year, the current 13th and 14th aren't rivals either. A rivalry is based on historic recordsand actual competition between the teams. The reality of the Bundesliga is that they haven't had a rival in a long time. Bayern vs Gladbach in the 70s was a rivalry, being miles behind Bayern and barely the best of the rest every other year isn't a rivalry.
Ah, I saw that tweet above and thought it said @FCBayern, now I see it says @CFBayern, who's actually a journalist.
Wrong, Bayern also signed Dayot Upamrcano
Well I feel we have missed out.
Eh?
Competition, nouveau riche, an abomination of a club's name, unorganically grown, plastic, Dietrich Mateschitz, their smaller brother in Austria
But Bayern barely buy from the teams that people see as top german teams, that's what Dortmund does on a yearly basis, Bayern seldomly purchase players from Leverkusen, Gladbach, Leipzig or Dortmund. They tend to buy the best players from the rest, from midtable teams like Hoffenheim or Stuttgart and even then it's not as common as people seem to think.
You raise some good points to the usual “Bayern is bad” points. There’s definitely a far larger issue at play (like the tv deal share - though I believe that’s changing soon - if it hasn’t already?) then simply criticising Bayern for ruthlessly taking advantage of their position in Germany. Especially if German players prefer not to leave the country, there’s only 1 option for them (if they want to play at the very highest level).
I know you're getting a lot of flak for this, but you're spot on. There is one thing being efficient, and there is another thing of constantly stirring up chaos at your 'rivals'. If you're almost twice as rich as the next clubs, and those next clubs are constantly in a flux in terms of league positions, I wonder if it's even appropriate to deem the other clubs to be their rivals. It's like calling Monaco a rival of PSG! When you add in the under the table shady tactics, I wonder why so many people have any kind of respect for them. Sure they're super efficient (which is great to admire), but their management are also the biggest c*nts in BL by a big margin.
Are you sure you're not confusing Bayern with Dortmund there? They're much more vocal about the likes of Hoffenheim or Leipzig. Especially on the management side, Watzke has been criticizing Leipzig a lot whereas Rummenigge recently praised Leipzig's performances.
This. Lot of people still stuck in the romantic notions that a football team is made up of local lads, brought through the club. Richest clubs have access to the best players, which makes it more likely for them to win trophies, which means they win more sponsorship, and eventually become rich than others. It is a vicious cycle at this point of time — where only the successful clubs can have the resources to be successful in the future — designed to preserve the existing status quo and artificially limit any competition.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought that a lot of the Bayern fans on the caf were very vociferous against Leipzig a few years back, which I found quite baffling.
It can't be both because they don't weaken rivals, they barely purchase from them. The examples mainly used are actually speaking, Lewandowski was leaving Dortmund no matter what and the alternative for Bayern was that a world class player that could help them win the CL would have ended at an other CL competitor when they needed a striker themselves. Hummels was initially a Bayern player, do we consider that Bayern weakened a rival or strengthened it? Gotze is in my opinion the only good point, though is ridiculously cheap clause was on Dortmund but I don't think that Bayern needed him even though he was at the time seen as a generational talent which for that fee was a steal.
That's a truly weird statement.
Well we tried looking out for ourselves last week and we were the worst dickheads in the world!
Potential competitors, so they must be destroyed so Bayern can win another 10 titles in a row.
Every club hates Leipzig if I'm not mistaken. It's to do with the 50 plus 1 ownership in Bundasliga and how Leipzig are taking the piss.
Not that I disagree with what you’re saying, but signing those players from Dortmund (for whatever reason they left), did weaken Dortmund in much the same way signing Upamecano & Nagelsmann will “probably” weaken RB. I suppose the reason these players are leaving the other clubs are a bigger reason for discussion. Can’t blame Bayern for using that to their advantage.
