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Lights on for Luke
Another Amadeus moment.
Another Amadeus moment.
You are right, we play better.Even when we are fresh we don’t play like that. Tonight showed exactly what we thought. He’s a top level coach. Reminded me of Klopp’s Dortmund.
Guess he fills the void left by FCBarca, whether we want it or notAnother Amadeus moment.
I'm not talking about next season. Bayern will keep Flick no matter what. And Nagelsmann will stay at Leipzig for a few more years.If Bayern win the CL that will be a treble. Will Nagelsmann want to come to the club under such pressure?
I wouldn't be surprised, while I did say I had no idea who he was, apparently he was very highly rated within Germany even before he started managing Hoffenheim, when he was managing their youth teams. I think there were rumours of Bayern wanting to sign him viewing him as their manager in a few years but he routinely rejected them to stay at Hoffenheim. Wouldn't be surprised if his reputation went beyond the German borders after he took over Hoffenheim.Tweet
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'Elite' hipster Managers vs Ole & Phelan?
and we’ll prove it on SundayYou are right, we play better.
People underestimate how this young generation of managers would likely turn down a lot of these hollywood clubs for more serious projects. They are not impressed by a big name if the club is run by idiots and the players like messi and pique are unmanagable and won't respect him.Barca should be doing everything they can to get him, but their board is a disaster so maybe he'd turn them down. Same with United, is a no brainer for us to step up and compete at the very top, but I don't think its realistic. Oles done well but we're never going to be anything more than a top 4 competitor with him IMO.
Who is the caf Salieri?Another Amadeus moment.
As much as I like Ole, Ole is nowhere near in the league of managers like Nagelsmann, managers like him are the future of this game, the guys still only 33, I mean he's younger than Messi and Ronaldo. Guy was coaching U19 4 years ago.Jesus lads, are we already talking about replacing Ole with Nagelsmann despite Ole still being in charge of United for the foreseeable future with no indication from the board that they want to replace him in the immediate years? That's fairly disgraceful to say the least.
This. That's why Wenger never gone there. At Arsenal he had a job for life even without winning the ECL.People underestimate how this young generation of managers would likely turn down a lot of these hollywood clubs for more serious projects. They are not impressed by a big name if the club is run by idiots and the players like messi and pique are unmanagable and won't respect him.
He would likely stay there for a year, hurt his brand and his reputation
Great decision from him. Real Madrid and their fans would have broken him in this stage of his career imo.Tweet
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What would be the point in that?This fella is the real deal so!
get their DOF too while we are at it
Surely he should come close to winning his own league before a move to a team like United where winning the league is an expectation?I’d love him to be our next manager. He’s the man to win us a league title imo. Please don’t let a rival get him!
Ole has done a great job with recruitment, if we aren’t challenging next season maybe move him to DOF? It doesn’t need to get ugly.
how do you know?Nagelsmann is the kind of coach that gives absolutely no guarantee in a top club. Brilliant with average teams when he can mold his players, unpredictable when there's high profile players in the squad. Sarri was brilliant with Napoli and failed at Chelsea and Juventus because he didn't have the profile of players he wanted and couldn't make his players play exactly the way he wanted to. Maybe he'll be great, maybe he won't. But hell of a coach anyway.
That's true. When Moyes left, I really wanted Klopp to take over but he wasnt ready to leave Dortmund. Then Liverpool snapped him up the following summer.Ole's resurgence put us in a difficult situation to chase any other manager now.
Rangnick and Nagelsmann would be a dream combo.
Our story for last 7 years, missing on best potential and signing players not right for us.
Interesting point but I feel coaches like him would need more time and cannot be judged on instant success. I feel he would be a fine coach for a club who will back him for a year or two without putting too much pressure on him.Nagelsmann is the kind of coach that gives absolutely no guarantee in a top club. Brilliant with average teams when he can mold his players, unpredictable when there's high profile players in the squad. Sarri was brilliant with Napoli and failed at Chelsea and Juventus because he didn't have the profile of players he wanted and couldn't make his players play exactly the way he wanted to. Maybe he'll be great, maybe he won't. But hell of a coach anyway.
"We have someone else we're more confident in moving forward with as manager, but we'll move you up to the role of the guy that's going to oversee the manager"I’d love him to be our next manager. He’s the man to win us a league title imo. Please don’t let a rival get him!
Ole has done a great job with recruitment, if we aren’t challenging next season maybe move him to DOF? It doesn’t need to get ugly.
What makes you say that?Nagelsmann is the kind of coach that gives absolutely no guarantee in a top club. Brilliant with average teams when he can mold his players, unpredictable when there's high profile players in the squad. Sarri was brilliant with Napoli and failed at Chelsea and Juventus because he didn't have the profile of players he wanted and couldn't make his players play exactly the way he wanted to. Maybe he'll be great, maybe he won't. But hell of a coach anyway.
Is it? In the last years I've only been hearing the words "rebuild and transition year" and "I'd settle for top 4".Surely he should come close to winning his own league before a move to a team like United where winning the league is an expectation?
I think one factor that will make it more likely for him to succeed at a big club is his personality. He is a very down to earth guy, has always good relationships with his players and is apparently great to work with in general. I feel it's more often young, extravagant coaches with an ego that's too big who fail.Not saying he can’t be successful at big clubs with world class players / egos, but promising young managers don’t always manage to be equally successful at bigger clubs (see AVB)
United hasn't won the league for like 7 years, and IIRC, in that time period we've only finished in the top4 three times. I'm sure he'd be alright and afforded time.Surely he should come close to winning his own league before a move to a team like United where winning the league is an expectation?
how do you know?
Interesting point but I feel coaches like him would need more time and cannot be judged on instant success. I feel he would be a fine coach for a club who will back him for a year or two without putting too much pressure on him.
I don't know, that's exactly what i'm saying, he's brilliant but there's absolutely no guarantee that a coach like that with a very strong tactical identy succeeds in a bigger club. Most high profile players need a certain kind of freedom on the pith he might not (or might) be able to offer yet.What makes you say that?
No managers give you guarantees, there is always a question of fitness.Nagelsmann is the kind of coach that gives absolutely no guarantee in a top club. Brilliant with average teams when he can mold his players, unpredictable when there's high profile players in the squad. Sarri was brilliant with Napoli and failed at Chelsea and Juventus because he didn't have the profile of players he wanted and couldn't make his players play exactly the way he wanted to. Maybe he'll be great, maybe he won't. But hell of a coach anyway.
Well it bugs me. I won’t lie. It’s lack of respect to current manager and most managers don’t talk about that until the club changes manager one more time but he just couldn’t shut his mouth. His ego had to tell the world Real Madrid wanted me. Says something about his character. And character is important as a manager. The players have to respect you. But then again he’s had a good career so far.How important is that to you?
People keep saying they can't wait to see what he can do with better players, but better players come with bigger egos. Ironically that actually gives us a slight advantage against the other european heavyweights, because Ole fixed the club culture.What makes you say that?
Oh now you have standards?Surely he should come close to winning his own league before a move to a team like United where winning the league is an expectation?
And we want to hire a manager that has never mounted a title challenge in his playing or managerial career to win us a league title? If we want to be perennial top 4 candidates then great, get him in tomorrowIs it? In the last years I've only been hearing the words "rebuild and transition year" and "I'd settle for top 4".
Some do. Guarantees of failure. Sarri failing at Juventus with big egos and without the kind of players he wanted was a very predictable disaster. A coach like Zidane on the other hand would have done far better imo.No managers give you guarantees, there is always a question of fitness.
Why not?What would be the point in that?