Yeh but this time he’s going to turn Superman and get him on their side. From the visions it looks he does win.Marvel characters fought many of Thanos' minions and scraped through just about. It made the arrival of Thanos even more scary and when he turned up, you really did feel like he was an actual threat to the heroes.
Darkseid has already been defeated by a group that didn't include Supes, Batman, Cyborg, Wonder Woman, Flash etc. Are we meant to believe this guy to be a threat?
I want DC to just make stand alone films/series of films like Joker and Dark Knight. That's where they tend to shine.
Then eventually use Flashpoint to have them meet up.
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tbf Darkseid was defeated by literal gods and I think this time he has the Omega force as well (I think).Marvel characters fought many of Thanos' minions and scraped through just about. It made the arrival of Thanos even more scary and when he turned up, you really did feel like he was an actual threat to the heroes.
Darkseid has already been defeated by a group that didn't include Supes, Batman, Cyborg, Wonder Woman, Flash etc. Are we meant to believe this guy to be a threat?
I want DC to just make stand alone films/series of films like Joker and Dark Knight. That's where they tend to shine.
Then eventually use Flashpoint to have them meet up.
Yep, literal Gods, plus he was arrogant and caught off guard because he haven't had any resistance as close to that one.
Still, not a good move to show him take this defeat the first time we see him. Just have a line of dialogue that can explain this.
In a strange twist, Whedon's Justice League is currently on ITV2. I've been watching it from the beginning.
Snyder's Cut is easily the better version. A lot of Whedon's one-liners just really don't land and feel so out of place.
Snyder's Cut is easily the better version. A lot of Whedon's one-liners just really don't land and feel so out of place.
That's what she said.
What?! It's quality dialogue.
Hurr hurr what's up with brunch *confused face* me go zooooooooom
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Not gonna lie chicka-dee you hot damn girl Iol sitting on rope
I really liked this version of the film although I can see why they didn't release it like this, it works better as a sort of mini-series or they would had to split it into more films. I also didn't mind the goofy Barry Allen, think he has the best parts and his supposed to be a novice super hero because if it was a mature Barry Allen or Wally West he would be way too powerful.
I'm watching the Snyder cut now, and while it is better, there are still a lot of awful 'jokes' left in it. Like pretty much everything Barry Allen says.
Hugely flawed, ridiculously indulgent, too many sloooooooow-mooooooooos, but I enjoyed it. One of the few times I felt the world of DC was interpreted on screen well (in parts).
Snyder got a pass from me for a lot though, and he's definitely not good enough to make a stellar DC movie. I'd love to see if DC will take the parallel universes and run with them now - imagine Nicholson, Keaton, Affleck, Phoenix, Pattinson in one movie
Snyder got a pass from me for a lot though, and he's definitely not good enough to make a stellar DC movie. I'd love to see if DC will take the parallel universes and run with them now - imagine Nicholson, Keaton, Affleck, Phoenix, Pattinson in one movie
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Finished watching it over the weekend in hourlong chunks. While it's better than the shit served in the theatrical release, it's still far from good. Downright silly in parts and not a well put together story at all. The alien spaceship was laughable. The spaceships in Alien/Aliens from decades earlier look better.
I get the ending was a dream or glimpse into the possible future, but who’s the one eyed dude with the patch? And where was the Martian Manhunter when they could have used him? Strange since he was obviously clued in by paying a visit to Lois, but then decided to feck off for the rest of the movie until the little cameo at the end.
And while I know that DC and Marvel essentially rip each other off with their characters, the similarities with Darkseid and Thanos, and even Desaad and Ebony Maw were farcical. Googled and found out that DC came up with Darkseid first, but not surprisingly, Marvel does it better with Thanos.
I get the ending was a dream or glimpse into the possible future, but who’s the one eyed dude with the patch? And where was the Martian Manhunter when they could have used him? Strange since he was obviously clued in by paying a visit to Lois, but then decided to feck off for the rest of the movie until the little cameo at the end.
And while I know that DC and Marvel essentially rip each other off with their characters, the similarities with Darkseid and Thanos, and even Desaad and Ebony Maw were farcical. Googled and found out that DC came up with Darkseid first, but not surprisingly, Marvel does it better with Thanos.
Snyder's Cut incomparably better.
His cut seem easily the better of the two film but has Synder ever talked about why he thinks having rag doll physics in his movies is somehow a good thing ?
It looks genuinely shite. For all the talk of wanting a more ''gritty'', ''dark'' and ''real'' superhero films having you're bad guys turn into npc from fallout 3 mid punch doesn't scream realism.
It looks genuinely shite. For all the talk of wanting a more ''gritty'', ''dark'' and ''real'' superhero films having you're bad guys turn into npc from fallout 3 mid punch doesn't scream realism.
I dunno... You ever see anyone get smacked with the power of a thousand jumbo jets?
WW in Synders cut here looked genuinely epic hero material. I can’t for the life of me figure out why whedon would cut that out.
I finally watched the film today, and while I enjoyed it more than I expected to, that scene is hilarious, and I don't think it's meant to be. She showed she could move (like a crab that can do that weird Russian dancing) fast enough to stop a bullet, but when the terrorist pointed a gun at her, she decided to blast him with almost the force of the bomb she'd just thrown nowhere near far enough away, showering the innocent people below with masonry. A moronic piece of filmmaking.
Snyder seems to make films purely on the basis of what he thinks looks cool, regardless of whether it makes sense. He doesn't seem to understand the characters or their motivations and thinks that they are a dumb as he is.
Having said that, it's still loads better than the Wheldon version and I enjoyed what they did with Cyborg. Shame they had to shoehorn so much into this because of the lack of a proper buildup to this story from previous films. While I felt this could accommodate that Cyborg origin story, adding the Flash origin was too much.
Add the stupidity of putting Martian Manhunter in it at the beginning, which made it clear he was completely aware of what was unfolding, only for him to pop up again only once the baddies had all been taken care of shows what little restraint Snyder had with this. Sure, I was glad to see the character in a movie finally, but it served no purpose other than to create a plot hole. Also, the character design sucked.
Overindulgence that would make James Cameron blush. But ultimately, the story is as dull as the grading.
Hopefully DC can move on now and look forward to films by directors with proven track records. Starting with the new Batman.
Hopefully DC can move on now and look forward to films by directors with proven track records. Starting with the new Batman.
Agreed, I'm hoping that now it's done this can signify the end of the "Snyder era" and DC can start making some DCEU movies their characters deserve rather than individual takes by directors who get it right.
Snyder really hates colours.
Is one of wonder woman's powers to have an invisible fan that blows her hair during slow motion shots?
She has an invisible jet, so actually yes
WW is hot
So whats dull about a story where aliens see that Earth's best defence (Superman) is dead and come to take over the planet? Forcing heroes who were fighting alone in their own part of the world to come together in order to save the whole world?
Sounds a lot more interesting to me than most superhero and alien movies. And considering Marvel's smash hit movie just stole the plot from The Leftovers which had run from 2014 - 2017 a year later in 2018 it seems to me that people dont care for story as much as they like to say they do.
Super hotWW is hot
Yeah, now his inclusion really was overindulgent on Snyder's part.
Shame too as, regarding the first time we see him, the conversation between Martha!! and Lane was relatively well done as it portrayed a warmth and connection between the too.
Turns it out it was just some shoddy green alien dude who was crammed into the film due too, once again, Snyder's indulgence, and a cheap looking one at that.
Zero logic.
Funnily enough. I loved the Leftovers and thought the exact same thing when I watched The Avengers. So this isn't a DC vs Marvel thing for me, far from it.
It's dull, because it contains filler to an extreme, it's overindulgence ruins the possibility of an engaging story because there's so many side plots and shots that just aren't interesting. The film makes more sense now granted, but that doesn't make it interesting.
The Nolan films (the first two at least) stand head and shoulders above this film in terms of atmosphere, coherence and the genuine feeling of stakes. Which is littered across the narrative.
Synder films care so much about aesthetics that ultimately they are not captivating. Some of the shots look amazing, but ultimately... its all a bit meh when the story doesn't grip you.
If people like the film, great, Cinema is completely subjective. But, I would be absolutely amazed if we're not in a thread in a years time saying how the new Batman film is levels above the Synder era of DC.
If you look at what Reeves did with Ceasar in his Planet of the Apes trilogy and his thoughts on the Batman character in general, I just can't see how it won't be a vast improvement In terms of the characterization and story. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Snyder really only cares about aesthetics. I think he thinks that is what makes a great movie @Delano
I said it before, but Im certain he makes certain scenes on the basis that it will look badass in a trailer.
I said it before, but Im certain he makes certain scenes on the basis that it will look badass in a trailer.
Didnt Marvels smash hit just mostly adapt the Infinity Gauntlets comic which was around early 90's, rather than stealing an idea from somewhere else which probably stole it from Marvel first?
I’m 2 hours into this and there’s something that really annoyed me that I need to get off my chest. The slow mo’s. Specifically the car crash slow mo. Specifically the car crash slow mo where the girl looks completely unfazed by the fact that she’s about to die, even smiling a bit. That really bothered me for some reason.
A few other observations:
- It’s very bloated, 2 hours in and things have barely really moved. On the other hand, if I’m to believe that all this was already shot, Whedon really went through it with a machete. On the other front, Snyder really ought to hire an Editor.
- The Cyborg story is a lot better, definitely packs an emotional heft
- It’s a good job Gal Gadot is beautiful, cause she’s an absolutely terrible actor
- Amy Adams is completely wasted as Lois Lane. Such a great actor portraying a terrible character
- Some of the CGI is actually pretty good
- Some other CGI is really bad
- Amber Heard took a shit on Johnny Depp’s bed and blamed it on a Yorkshire Terrier, I can’t get over this!
A few other observations:
- It’s very bloated, 2 hours in and things have barely really moved. On the other hand, if I’m to believe that all this was already shot, Whedon really went through it with a machete. On the other front, Snyder really ought to hire an Editor.
- The Cyborg story is a lot better, definitely packs an emotional heft
- It’s a good job Gal Gadot is beautiful, cause she’s an absolutely terrible actor
- Amy Adams is completely wasted as Lois Lane. Such a great actor portraying a terrible character
- Some of the CGI is actually pretty good
- Some other CGI is really bad
- Amber Heard took a shit on Johnny Depp’s bed and blamed it on a Yorkshire Terrier, I can’t get over this!
It bothered you because it was possibly the stupidest scene in the film. And why does going really fast mean that your bare feet are capable of damaging asphalt rather than the exact opposite? Absolute horse shit, that scene.
I think Gal has looked better.
Few scenes she looked haggard.
Anyway saw the movie and have to say enjoyed it.
I could go through and pick faults with things, such as the slow mo scenes generally and the whole bank scene etc but it's mindless fun so I let that go and just enjoyed the film.
High speed crashes doesnt really give you time to react? I can see a facial expression be slow to change.
True, but she'd already seen the truck and slammed on her brakes. Doubt her face stayed the same as her foot reacted on its own.
I'm not saying it's going to be the same for everyone but when you're ragdolled out of a flipped vehicle you're either going to have a flappy thing going on with your face or look like you've just shit yourself.
I'd have bought either of those expressions. Instead, she seemed to be having a lovely time.
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After watching the Snyder cut you realise they couldn't have picked someone worse to take over the reigns than Joss Whedon. Ray Fisher must have been seething after essentially being the main character in Snyder's cut to a boring sidekick in the Whedon version.