Because it helps you get on the property ladder with a smaller deposit than you would traditionally need. Because there are lots and lots of people out there who cant get a deposit together but comfortably pay what they could pay on a mortgage payment in rent every month.
So it's a government hand out to people who didn't work hard enough to get onto the property ladder on their own.
the means the govt is taking a risk on your behalf, a risk that the market wouldn't take. in other words, it is giving you a handout the market has determined that you don't deserve, just as the market determines that unemployed welfare scroungers should starve.
Its not a hand out
either you are a WUM or you are pig ignorant.
Probably the most accurate take so far on the problems Labour have.
Whataboutivism. Lets talk morals. Why dont you donate some money to starving children then, you care a lot
You would assume that this is what motivates people to pursue a career in politics, to champion the cause of issues with deep conviction..
i don't care a jot. the market should determine everything, and i am ashamed that it was distorted to give you your house, and to give undeserving people healthcare.
Im having a great time though.
Pretty much sums up the tory mindset.
I can understand your perspective on home ownership - I don’t agree with it, but understand it.
What a pile of absolute bullshit. Glad this prick has resigned. If the word 'woke' had been around in the 1940s, it would have been applied to everything that Labour did to create the NHS and the modern welfare system. You know, the things that people say make us great.
I think you’ve missed some obvious sarcasm on a couple of posts.
I don't know, I think we may just have stumbled upon @berbatrick's true arch-conservative nature. He probably has a poster of Thatcher over his bed.
Bloody woke government helping the freeloaders.
I think the 2020/2021 perception and definition of Woke depends on who you ask.
It’s not about knocking policies. Anything that helps is welcomed, and I’m hoping to take advantage of a help to buy next year. But it does nothing to solve the root cause of the issue. It’s sucks when someone like myself is saving for ages to get on the property ladder, paying into someone else’s mortgage for years. But there’s so many that can’t get anywhere near that, even with the schemes.
you never know in this thread.
I’m sure he’s joking
It is funny to see that a front bencher for the 'woke' Labour Party is blaming the 'woke' Labour Party's 'wokeness' for losing them seats. Its almost like 'wokism' is a massive bogeyman and the Labour Party is in complete disarray with zero sense of its own identity.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Be interesting to see if he is seen as both too left wing and too right wing at the same time by different groups. That was my first reaction as to what it could be.
the fact that there's a labour->ukip->tory and a labour->tory and a labour->lib dem and a labour->green swing depending on the seat, seems to suggest you're right.
No doubt that'll be the case.
| Party | Candidate | Votes | % | ±% | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Conservative | Tony Devenish | 55,163 | |||
| Labour | Rita Begum | 52,938 | |||
| Green | Zack Polanski | 16,427 | |||
| Liberal Democrats | Ted Townsend | 13,462 | |||
| Let London Live | Heiko Khoo | 1,977 | |||
| Reform UK | Saradhi Rajan | 1,954 | |||
| Majority | |||||
| Turnout | 141,921 | ||||
| Conservative hold | Swing |
| Party | Candidate | Votes | % | ±% | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Conservative | Tony Devenish | 67,775 | 44.2 | -6.2 | |
| Labour | Mandy Richards | 53,211 | 34.7 | +4.2 | |
| Green | Jennifer Nadel | 14,050 | 9.2 | +0.5 | |
| Liberal Democrats | Annabel Mullin | 10,577 | 5.9 | -1.0 | |
| UKIP | Clive Egan | 7,708 | 5.0 | +1.5 | |
| Majority | 14,564 | 9.5 | -10.3 | ||
| Turnout | 153,321 | 45 | 5.8 | ||
| Conservative hold | Swing |
I am in hospital being treated for bipolar and that is much more fun than following these results. It is such a kick in the gut.
The story of our time: government trying to mitigate a problem created by incompetent governmental intervention; by use of more government intervention.
to keep you occupied - the opinion poll is in and you were right, it's equal both ways (4%). But lack of clarity seems to be a bigger problem.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
That's not really true. Attlee's Labour were fiercely patriotic, socially conservative but socialist economically. Those are exactly the kind of politics that talks to people in constituencies like Hartlepool. It's the big reason why the modern Labour party has little scope to win Hartlepool back and will most likely lose more seats like it at the next election.
Didn't Churchill say that the NHS would necessitate a Gestapo?
Jesus Christ. If you two are an example of this country, I now understand why it’s fecked.
WTF. would be helpful if you could at least explain your issues?
Thanks for this, and it really should get the Leader's office to lay out policies in detail. They haven't done so because of caution over Covid, waiting for that to blow over, and it has cost them dearly.
Also very racist. Trying to stop the Empire Windrush from docking and passing the 1948 Nationality Act to promote white migration. They only didn't ban 'coloured migration' because they thought it would piss off the Commonwealth.
He did, but the Tory manifesto he ran on supported an NHS and he went a bit (very) rogue with those comments.
