the institutional antisemitism that was allowed to fester under corbyn is a genuine problem... people deflecting that and pretending its not real or justified are part of that real problem
of go on what are they.. which sweeping generalization are you going to go with today...
Far right.
I mean Im centrist blairite scum so thats the same to you right... I'm mixed race - my wife is chinese... I'm practically edl mate...
You are quoting me out of context and plowing on deliberately misrepresenting my point. I shall be very clear:
Good post. It would be interesting to know who the country would say was the last "good" Prime Minister / government on balance. My betting is to get any consensus (even if you separated left/right voters) you'd have to go back 3-4 decades, possibly even 7-8. Possibly Thatcher on the right and maybe Wilson or even Atlee on the left? To find any significant approval across the spectrum it would probably be Churchill. Either way I imagine you'd find low approval ratings for decades.
Nope, being a Blairite is not the same as being a fan of, and constantly promoting a far right website like Guideo Fawkes, which is what you do all the time. I don't care who you say you are or how many ethnic minority friends you have. If you uncritically post Guido as much as you do then it's clear that you support them and what they stand for, which is far right politics.
so you now get to be the arbiter of my belief system... your a very strange little boy
White man in position of power tells black people what is valid and what is nonsense. Also tried to limit the movement as a "moment" and limit its scope to the single action of George Floyd's murder. Wow.
What part Of that upset you?
Might be easier for you to simply link directly to the Guido articles you attempt to regurgitate in future?
No, I'm saying that if you constantly and uncritically promote a far right website, don't be upset when people start to think that you support them. Because whether or not it's intentional, you are supporting them and their aims.
At the start of this month
Yeah it's pretty awful. But then again this guy who ran in what was supposed to be a female only leadership election
If it quacks like a duck
Is this what RLB supporters online are saying or what you're saying?
Terrible from him. It displays a complete ignorance to the BLM movement as a whole. And yeah trying to ground it in just the murder of George Floyd is shameful. Dismissing ‘Defund the Police’ as nonsense as well - by all means oppose it, but to so flippantly disregard it again is just tone-deaf to all those who deal with injustices and racism at the hands of the police.
The bit from my post where I don't reference or quote anyone else is - funnily enough - what I am saying.
Absolutely.
...and I'd largely agree with this.
The whole defund the police thing is only applicable to the States so it’s a loaded question that those ignorant to the situation will use as a stick... bit lazy from the beeb to be honest
No right headed person should.
The defund the police side of things is fine. The idea that the BLM movement over here is just the equivalent of a minutes silence for Floyd is, at best, tin eared and, at worst, pretty offensive.
The defuned answer is basically what every Labour leader would say(Although calling it nonsense is stupid). The awful part is this
Sir Keir is against it, but not as much as he's against the idea of doing anything.
If he could document his stance on the politics of every other country on the planet that would be good too right?
Just the ones breaching international law and giving the world a warning as to the date they'll do it will suffice.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....anctions-on-israel-over-west-bank-annexations
Yeah, maybe he could call it something like "Foreign Policy".
Genuine question, I'm quite ignorant on this. But what would "defunding the police" do in our country?I would have thought if anything it requires far more investment in training and correct protocol so that the are able to stabilize law and order properly and fairly.
Global foreign policy is all about the same with most countries.
Israel has a lobby that has the labour party by the bollocks. Unfortunately Latvia or Burundi don't
In many ways the Tories have already defunded the police. But that isn't what struck me as the most unpalatable section from Starmers interview. Although, black people are more likely to be stopped and searched and also more likely to die in custody in the UK. So certainly changes and improvements need to be made with the police. Why couldn't he acknowledge that?
Wait until you find out the Met's budget *
We have exactly the same questions here though about the cuts to social services, mental health services, etc. and whether funds allocated to the police could be better allocated to achieve a restorative system of justice.
I think some of the money spent on police in this country could probably be better directed into other services. We spend an awful lot more per capita on policing than Scandinavian countries. It's certainly not 'nonsense' to question why.
Of course he would acknolwedge it, but the answer isn't to "de-fund the police", is it?
Everyone would be in agreement that it's a problem, and I don't think Starmer is even remotely suggesting that there isn't a racism problem among Law and Order. The way I interpreted it is that he felt lazy parallels were being drawn from what was a heinous crime in USA and it was politicized here in the UK when the solution to make things better isn't just "defund the police".
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I'd be rather called a far left Marxist jihad than have this cnut like me.
Who’s been explaining it to you? Defund the police is a very straightforward concept. Defund the police means defund the police i.e. divert resources elsewhere so tackling mental health, social services, youth centres, housing.
Starmer’s comments should be condemned by anyone who claims to stand in solidarity against racism. It’s painfully tone-deaf and outright insulting. If a Labour leader’s stance on a movement like BLM is able to be exploited by someone as beyond the pale as Farage (however cynically that may be), that should make anyone who claims to support the party uncomfortable.
Nothing exposes the weaponising of anti-Semitism against the left like the platform constantly given to this racist. BBC led the media in building Farage’s career and mainstreaming his views. How many times has Farage being quizzed on his support for Orban, numerous dogwhistle anti-Semitic comments or his private schoolboy days where he routinely told Jewish students ‘Hitler was right’ among other deplorable “jokes”.
