Liverpool > the whole darn freakin’ world!!Alisson > Kepa and Da Gea!!
Liverpool > the whole darn freakin’ world!!Alisson > Kepa and Da Gea!!
Has Kepa been one of their best players this season?Chelsea's Pepe/Fred.
It does say a lot, it says how many saveable shots they are letting in or how many shots they wouldn’t reasonably be expected to save they are keeping out. It’s one part of goalkeeping but a massively important one.xG doesn't say a lot about gk though. You want to look at post-shot xG(which is perhaps the single best metric we have to judge a player's peeformance). I think he's still doing badly there too
Baffling player. Starting to look a bit Karius-y - great physical tools, horrible technique and decision making
Any details on Henderson’s save % Europe wide? See he’s 2nd in the PL behind Allison.Kepa Arrizabalaga has the worst save percentage of any keeper in the Premier League. 127th Out of 132 keepers from Europe's top seven leagues Kepa ranks 127th in save percentage
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepers/Premier-League-Stats
Sort it by save%.
Nope. xGA doesn't account for the quality of the shots, nor the number of saves. It's a metric for determining the quality of a team's defending, not the goalkeeper. A team can generate an xG of 4 and score 0 goals and the gk still finish the game with 0 saves, for exampleIt does say a lot, it says how many saveable shots they are letting in or how many shots they wouldn’t reasonably be expected to save they are keeping out. It’s one part of goalkeeping but a massively important one.
If you're going by fbref you should be showing the advanced stats. Which now have PSxGAKepa Arrizabalaga has the worst save percentage of any keeper in the Premier League. 127th Out of 132 keepers from Europe's top seven leagues Kepa ranks 127th in save percentage
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepers/Premier-League-Stats
Sort it by save%.
Without knowing more than what you just wrote about it, my assumption is that Alisson wouldn't fare very well in that metric, as he often stresses players into less optimal shots and/or closes down the angles by coming out of his goal quickly.Save % and shots on target xGA are decent/good metrics. Post-shot xGA(which accounts for the quality of the shot) is the best
As it's a metric designed to evaluate gk's shot-stopping, the gk's positioning isn't taken into accountWithout knowing more than what you just wrote about it, my assumption is that Alisson wouldn't fare very well in that metric, as he often stresses players into less optimal shots and/or closes down the angles by coming out of his goal quickly.
How do you measure quality of a shot that is stopped by the keeper at point blank range to the finisher?
Not sure whether he was supreme talent but I remember he was always linked with Madrid as alternate for De Gea.Question, what made Chelsea buy him, and for that much? Was he some kind of supreme talent? I'd literally never even heard of him until Chelsea signed him, I don't remember him being raved about anywhere
On Reddit? It's literally on this page in this thread.Saw this on Reddit..
He's literally rated 127th out of 132 goalkeepers in the top 7 European leagues for save percentage. That's not chances, that's not a bad defence, that is a bad player.
Thanks for the numbers. Why is this not surprising. He seems overwhelmed and somewhat clueless too many times. Whether that’s on him or a defense he needs more time to get to know is unclear.Kepa Arrizabalaga has the worst save percentage of any keeper in the Premier League. 127th Out of 132 keepers from Europe's top seven leagues Kepa ranks 127th in save percentage
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepers/Premier-League-Stats
Sort it by save%.
He had a number of monster performances that suggested his top level might be very high. A relatively young modern goalkeeper with a very high ceiling, who mostly needed to find consistencyQuestion, what made Chelsea buy him, and for that much? Was he some kind of supreme talent? I'd literally never even heard of him until Chelsea signed him, I don't remember him being raved about anywhere
It was his release clause and athletic Bilbao don't negotiate fee.With the tagline of "most expensive GK in the world", chelsea could have gone and gotten Jan Oblak. I can only surmise that some kind of money laundering is involved in signing Kepa. Even at Bilbao, he never have looked superior to other top names. What is his defining quality really?
We went for Oblak but he had no interest in leaving.With the tagline of "most expensive GK in the world", chelsea could have gone and gotten Jan Oblak. I can only surmise that some kind of money laundering is involved in signing Kepa. Even at Bilbao, he never have looked superior to other top names. What is his defining quality really?
More stats in graph form:Saw this on Reddit..
He's literally rated 127th out of 132 goalkeepers in the top 7 European leagues for save percentage. That's not chances, that's not a bad defence, that is a bad player.
We've loaned out £50 million+ terrible signings before and let them go on a free. With inflation this would a similar story.They are stuck with him, aren't they? Can't spend that kind of money on a keeper without at least recouping a fair wad of it before moving on.
More stats in graph form:
The higher up the worse the defence. The further along the X-axis the better the keeper
Bloody hell, I think he's poor but that's really bad.More stats in graph form:
The higher up the worse the defence. The further along the X-axis the better the keeper
Does that make Dean Henderson the 2nd best at saves?More stats in graph form:
The higher up the worse the defence. The further along the X-axis the better the keeper
Liverpool opponents can't shoot to save their lives and Alisson is greatMore stats in graph form:
The higher up the worse the defence. The further along the X-axis the better the keeper
This is a backlash to all the Chelsea fans who insulted De Gea because they thought they had the best Spanish keeper.I don't get the sudden criticism. He has literally never been a supreme talent. The overrating of him from Chelsea fans early on was laughable, this is in and around his level.
If we're going down that road, doesn't his current season make it all the more damming/hilarious that DDG lost his national place to him?This is a backlash to all the Chelsea fans who insulted De Gea because they thought they had the best Spanish keeper.
You can go to twitter and see the insults mate.
I guess the OP (or whoever changed the title) wanted this thread to be about talking about how good or terrible Kepa is, rather than endless "my dad is better than your dad" type jibes.Why does the thread title suggest no comparisons with DDG are allowed? Bit daft.
I'd the insults are on Twitter, I wish people would reply on Twitter rather than darken this website with that kind of idiocy.This is a backlash to all the Chelsea fans who insulted De Gea because they thought they had the best Spanish keeper.
You can go to twitter and see the insults mate.
I think it's a fair comparison given they are both Spanish and from the same club in Spain, and same academy. It's only natural people will compare their progress in the PL as it's as good a benchmark as there is?I guess the OP (or whoever changed the title) wanted this thread to be about talking about how good or terrible Kepa is, rather than endless "my dad is better than your dad" type jibes.
I don't disagree with that in principle but I can see why the OP might not want a hundred "omg, DDG is so much better' posts spamming the thread every time Kepa does anything.I think it's a fair comparison given they are both Spanish and from the same club in Spain, and same academy. It's only natural people will compare their progress in the PL as it's as good a benchmark as there is?
Yeah I agree. There's a difference although the title suggests comparing the two is off limits when it shouldn't be providing it's done correctly.I don't disagree with that in principle but I can see why the OP might not want a hundred "omg, DDG is so much better' posts spamming the thread every time Kepa does anything.