If we're bringing in Delap as cover/competition to the first team striker then I'd say let's go for it. He's young, he's EPL proven, he's got that tenacity to succeed etc. However if he's going to be the main striker then I'd say we need more experience in the role. In my opinion we need 2 strikers next season. Hojlund is finished at United and Zirkzee is not a no 9. So an experienced striker + a cover/competitor are needed.
Liam Delap | £30m release clause?
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
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Yeah Mateta and him, that way we could then look at Cherki/Mastantuono for other wide position instead of Mbeumo/Semenyo
For his release clause I think this is good value.
If we don’t win Wednesday night then the absolute best we can hope for is Delap with his release clause and David on a free from Lille, if we don’t win Wednesday then there’s absolutely zero hope we’d even be in the running for the likes of Gyokeres or Osimhen.
David is apparently going to Napoli
Apparently we out of the running for Gyokeres and Osimhen anyway. Latter wants to much money 300-600k per week, the former apparently we are wary of another Darwin Nunez plus he's expensive.
I could be completely wrong, but I think it's Delap as first choice regardless and Mateta as 2nd choice.
As in we'll target Mateta if Delap doesn't fancy coming, rather then we'd sign both?
Yes as in Mateta is the backup choice of Delap turns us down.
Could be right.
Hope we get Delap if so as although Mateta's a good player I'd be nervous shelling out on a guy who'd be signing his last big contract and may not have the determination required to turn things around if they proved difficult for him here.
What will you say when a top club does sign him, for 30m, which they 100% will?
They won't sign him to lead their line, so how is it relevant?
How is it not relevant?
he will be playing for a top club? Sorry I didn't know the rules you set up for what is or isn't relevant in this discussion.He might be a good deal for 30m for someone while not being a good deal for us at the same time, obviouslyHow is it not relevant?
How is he not a good deal at 30m? It's peanuts in the grand scheme of things, even if he flopped. We've wasted far bigger on far less likely successes.
Because he's not good enough and we can't afford to spend 30m on a backup striker. It's really not that complicated
You are jumping to the conclusion he's not good enough, and yet stating it like it's some obvious fact. Bit silly really. He's got bags of potential and has shown that in the PL. He'll do well wherever he goes, unless it's maybe Chelsea, because they almost have as horrible record with strikers as we do.
I mean it's obviously my opinion and not a fact. But what else can I really go with? If we end up with him I hope someone quotes this in a year and laughs about me because I've been spectacularly wrong, but I'm just not seeing it with him.
I wouldn't mind the signing in addition to a better striker, but I'm not convinced we have the funds for that
He won't be their lead striker.
As a 3rd option(maybe even a 2nd option), it's decent value.
But there's no shot a top club is ever buying him to be their main striker.
Someone like Lukaku wasn't good enough for a top club and Lukaku was clearly much better than Delap from their time in the Premier League.
I would have him at Chelsea to bring some competition for the very erratic Jackson.
30M is not that big of a gamble nowadays, should it go wrong.
He has similar numbers to Sesko this season but in a harder league. Osimhen just wants a ridiculous contract that is totally unrealistic. Not that many obvious options out there I feel
30M is not that big of a gamble nowadays, should it go wrong.
He has similar numbers to Sesko this season but in a harder league. Osimhen just wants a ridiculous contract that is totally unrealistic. Not that many obvious options out there I feel
If so that’s another shrewd bit of business by Napoli again and showing how slow off the mark we always are seeing as we’ll be trying to move Rashford, Sancho and Antony all on so need quality coming in but not overpriced and David on a free is a no brainer for me.
I think we’d ruin Mateta with how we play and on the back of Palace winning the FA Cup yesterday and Mateta having two years on his contract whilst being 28 in a few weeks do we really want to lay out £60+ million on him ? At least with Delap he has his whole career ahead of him and we’d likely get our money back on him if selling him on at a later date.
Agreed. He’s still raw and we’re seeing the same thing here with Hojlund. It won’t be different with him.. people can say he’s better than Hojlund etc but it’s a lot different leading for Ipswich than one of the biggest clubs. We need someone with an elite mentality… Osimhen needs to be the one.
30m is still a lot of money to waste for a club that’s skint like ours. We need to make sure we get our signings right in the summer or we’re not moving in the direction we should be. Can’t afford to have another ST that may not even get 10 league goals.
Eh if he can do it at Ipswich, I'd fancy his chances to get 10 or more for us. We can't be that cursed.
Delap isn't going to sign for anyone if he isn't the starting no9. Wherever he's going he's going to be the starter. Plenty of pundits ala Alan shearer think he's good enough to be the main starting striker for Chelsea or Utd.
Irony of this is winning on Wednesday is what gets us Delap
Players are told rubbish to get them signed and through the door just as happens in real life. Compete for and start for are two very different things.
Players play with less pressure at teams like that. Sometimes the pressure gets to players at bigger clubs especially very young players.
Scoring 12 league goals for Ipswich is not the ideal rehearsal for a summer move to Manchester United.
Also it becomes 10x more difficult when the club has made bad decisions in the previous windows.
I’m looking at United’s 9.5 CF that can’t play as a 9 or 10. Which makes him borderline useless and increases the pressure on the next CF to arrive.
Also it becomes 10x more difficult when the club has made bad decisions in the previous windows.
I’m looking at United’s 9.5 CF that can’t play as a 9 or 10. Which makes him borderline useless and increases the pressure on the next CF to arrive.
Of course, but every signing is a leap of faith in some way. The fear this fanbase has now around transfers is crazy, so many people seem genuinely damaged.
Can you blame us? I mean we probably have the worse success in transfers. The last few years we’ve just wasted money.
Is he even better than Jackson? I’m not sure
Yeah probably same level
I'm not disagreeing exactly, but another way of looking at it is the bar has been set so low he would struggle not to improve us, so he might feel less pressure?
If his competition is obi, hojlund and zirkzee....
Yeah would like to think that's the case
Obviously in relation to other clubs; we're the ones that would be approaching it from the worst perspective.
Elsewhere, he's going to compete for a start, being part of a solid rotation.
The bar is low, but he isn't setting it much higher. He's a decent player, but shouldn't be our no.1 CF target, unless we lose the UEL final and are financially unable to get better options.
It is not just about financing though. When you think about the better options there are maybe 3 or 4 strikers potentially on the move that you can say with certainty would do better than Delap. There are a hell of a lot more than 3 or 4 clubs looking to sign them. Strikers are in short supply which is why players like Rasmus and Darwin have moved for such insane fees in recent years.
I think he’s more than a decent player. Have a very strong feeling he will be England’s number 9 the moment Kane drops off.