£25m signing bonus
£25m Tax free per season x 2 with option of third plus bonuses.
Could United ever really contend with that?
Does mummy know you're on the internet again?Hater gonna hate
He get less in Paris, than Barca.And he could got a 100 mln in Qatar, Dubai or China.Money talks. He has won everything at club level and now its a time to enjoy his time in Paris getting a nice contract.
Realistically, he only needs to turn up for 10 CL games? The rest of the time he can play at walking pace.
After 2 year at PSG ,he will come back for a symbolic salary and end hes legacy in EuropeI highly doubt that. They will not be able to afford his wages. Most likely go to America.
Of course ))) and you believed in 1 sec to this info.I bet you liked Messi before this move ))))Apparently he feels betrayed by Barca. After holding the club to ransom for years, and the club now on its arse after paying his ridiculous wages, he's the one who feels betrayed.
Great player, total shithead.
I do wonder about PSG’s workrate but I think we have an attack that could reach MSN levelsI am really curious to see if Messi and Neymar can co-exist at a high level again.
Neymar's not as direct as he was during the MSN years. I wonder if he'll go back to that.
I don't know if you can afford to give 2 players essentially free roles in attack even if it's Messi and Neymar.
In Trinidad there are a lot more people buying PSG kits than you used to see before. Especially in the younger generation. The star players are a big allure for the up and coming generation of fans, particularly for international fans.PSG had to find new ways to generate income, that's why they went with Jordan. I don't have all the numbers in mind but i do know it increase a LOT in the last couple of years between Neymar/Mbappé and Jordan, especially in north america.
Well, why not? It would be fun to see him try to deal his way tight defenses that are a strong part of an entire country's footballing identity.Not sure where people wanted him to go, Italy?
Serie A has tons of goals, the hyper defense serie A has been gone for a whileWell, why not? It would be fun to see him try to deal his way tight defenses that are a strong part of an entire country's footballing identity.
Messi 30?
Because people who say that barely watch La Liga and think every team in La Liga has Barcelona like ball playing soft defender .I don't know why people think Messi would have issues with EPL defenders or any other league... he's Shown he can compete against the best teams in every league and the best defenders in the world with his champions league/ national team performances.
Messi 30?
And why would they spend half the video showing off their gift store or something? Why not show of some trophies or something?!
These threads really bring out the lowest standard of posts on the caf. YouTube comments section worthy.Club football:
So what you are saying is that Ronaldo has a large enough body of work to discuss, analyze and criticize his performance across different leagues while Messi has nothing. Ok got it.
So while the rest of us live in the real world and discuss what actually happened while Ronaldo played at Juventus, you can live in your imaginary world and fantasize about how Messi scored a hat-trick against Chelsea in the 2014 Carabao Cup.
International football:
You could have just replaced what you wrote with "Messi has won ZERO world cups despite playing in a better side than Ronaldo for most of his career. Messi has won only ONE Copa despite playing 4 Copas in the last 6 years." Would have saved you time.
Messi will score 20 goals against Brazil in a friendly while playing against Stupidinho, Ricardo Crapinho and No Talentino but in a competitive game against Neymar, Thiago Silva and Casemiro, he will disappear for the most part.
Your God is now a tool for a regime that is directly involved with bonded labor and has poor human rights in general. He is literally a mannequin for a country accused of bribing their way to host the World Cup. Keep seething!
They dont need to, they washed their hands of someone`s elses blood, sweat and tears long long time ago but this thread aint for this topic.Exactly, now tell me what western country own Manchester united or Liverpool or any of the big historical clubs and use the club as a PR machine?
What’s the significance of the #30 shirt to him?
It has always annoyed me when people write in all caps except for the “i”. Pleased to know I have one more reason to dislike PSG.
Still feels a bit surreal
1) says the guy who cannot explain why Ronaldo failed in La Liga winning only twice in 9 years.Club football:
So what you are saying is that Ronaldo has a large enough body of work to discuss, analyze and criticize his performance across different leagues while Messi has nothing. Ok got it.
So while the rest of us live in the real world and discuss what actually happened while Ronaldo played at Juventus, you can live in your imaginary world and fantasize about how Messi scored a hat-trick against Chelsea in the 2014 Carabao Cup.
International football:
You could have just replaced what you wrote with "Messi has won ZERO world cups despite playing in a better side than Ronaldo for most of his career. Messi has won only ONE Copa despite playing 4 Copas in the last 6 years." Would have saved you time.
Messi will score 20 goals against Brazil in a friendly while playing against Stupidinho, Ricardo Crapinho and No Talentino but in a competitive game against Neymar, Thiago Silva and Casemiro, he will disappear for the most part.
Your God is now a tool for a regime that is directly involved with bonded labor and has poor human rights in general. He is literally a mannequin for a country accused of bribing their way to host the World Cup. Keep seething!
But this is just whataboutery. Doesn't make it any less abhorrent and any less worthy of calling out.Nobody is saying they aint cnut regime, they doing similar shit as western countries in the past just with huge lag.
NahThat's not happened because football is broken.
It's happened because one guy and his entourage think they're worth a million a week.
I think you've got it the wrong way around.
Doubt they'll do big numbers. No one watched La Liga here when they had Ronaldo, Messi and the best sides in the world. La Liga struggled to find a buyer for the rights in recent years. The novelty of PSG will soon wear off for most when the standard of opposition become apparent.BT Sport must be loving have the french league rights in the UK!
Except he tried to leave for free from Barca just last year. But I agree that its not a bad career move in the immediate sense but from a legacy perspective, would have preferred him to go to a bigger club and league.Say what you want about Messi, Barca and PSG but for Messi this can't be all that bad career wise. PSG should be the favourites to win Champions League. Gets paid a shit ton.. and he's got the I-couldn't-stay-despite-offering-to-cut-wage-by-50-percent-card. Barcelona is a mess anyways.
Also this isn't the best version of Messi anymore. He's ageing.People will tune in to watch a few games, but much like when everyone was going to watch the BL last year because the PL hadn't started up again, the novelty won't last just due to the standard being so low.
What trophies? Ligue 1's? Marseille and Saint-Etienne still have more of those even a decade after being bought by Qatar.Messi 30?
And why would they spend half the video showing off their gift store or something? Why not show of some trophies or something?!
Probably true. We'll get clips of endless stepover and flicks against cannon fodder, though in the Champions League personally i think PSG will slip back to their usual round of 16/quarter final thrashings when they face a half decent team. The last couple of seasons were unusual and they're not going to get another easy draw.What PSG will be is the best viral club in football. Young kids posting crazy goals or tricks by Messi, Neymar or Mbappe against Lorient on social media with captions like 'Messi is fecked' or whatever term is in fashion at the time. The state of modern football means that commercially this is a big thing. It seems a lot of the younger generation consume football like this now.
What? There is no such thing as a "wage structure" in sports?There is no such a thing as wage structure in sports and even if it was actually a thing Messi is considerably more valuable than any player not named Ronaldo. No player has an argument when he comes to the negociation table and use Messi as a reference, they can comeback when they are all time greats.
And with regards to both of you mentioning Messi's contract not being used as a benchmark. Of course it is, you think Griezmann and his agency, one of the top forwards in the world, a marketable player and a World Cup winner, is going to NOT use Messi as a key benchmark? Who is his Griezmann's agents going to use as his contract benchmark to extract the most from Barca? A high figure - like Messi - or a lower figure like ter Stegen?It grates how many times this has to be stated.
As if any player can go to upper management and use anything to do with Messi as a reference point for their own negotiations.
Until somebody in a team Messi is in outperforms him, or even comes close, it's one of the daftest lines of thinking I see posted in relation to Messi/Barcelona.
We're talking Griezmann here, an elite player, a very marketable player and a World Cup winner who cost Barcelona €120 million. His agency does not accept a contract that is 6-7x less than the highest earner. They use such an elite level player and a key benchmark is the highest earner, that was/is Messi at €2.5m per week ergo it is why Griezmann ended up at €800-900K per week himself.Correct.
Imagine a top 25 UFC fighter demanding Conor Mcgregor pay days when that fighter brings in a 1000 ppv’s only in stead of milions. The commercial value of any athlete dictates the leverage in negotiations. Tangible criteria are assessed such as PPV’ numbers, social media traffick, sponsor deals etc (criteria differ depending on the sport).
It’s unfortunate that people during discussions like these are not aware of these factors in order to objectively try form conclusions.
Christ. Super duper fanboy.He get less in Paris, than Barca.And he could got a 100 mln in Qatar, Dubai or China.
After 2 year at PSG ,he will come back for a symbolic salary and end hes legacy in Europe
Of course ))) and you believed in 1 sec to this info.I bet you liked Messi before this move ))))
The point is that it's a subjective and individualized decision from the owners. There is no actual wage structure, two similar players won't necessarily have the same wage, their contracts won't be structured the same way, contracts are highly individualized in sport, the amount that a player can earn isn't set beforehand. An owner can give himself a limit but he can break it whenever he wants and doesn't have to justify it, no employee can actually turn around and claim that based on an unexistant wage structure he should earn a particular amount.What? There is no such thing as a "wage structure" in sports?
Are you even a United fan? We had a strict wage structure in place throughout the 1990s till the early 00s (particularly in the early era) that prevented us from signing mega players that SAF often bemoaned.
Every single club that has a financial brain has a sound wage structure in place otherwise one leads to unsustainable expenses, unsustainable salary demands due to others' being hiked and unsustainable morale issues.
You bolded the wrong part: "Bartomeu was widely seen as a soft touch by the club’s Catalan core of homegrown players who all got bumper pay rises during his term, and by agents of newer arrivals such as Ousmane Dembele, Griezmann and Coutinho" this is the crux. Messi, the outlier in the sport being used as barometer by others would get laughed out of town, just as in other sports where there are earners in different stratospheres on the same teams.What? There is no such thing as a "wage structure" in sports?
Are you even a United fan? We had a strict wage structure in place throughout the 1990s till the early 00s (particularly in the early era) that prevented us from signing mega players that SAF often bemoaned.
Every single club that has a financial brain has a sound wage structure in place otherwise one leads to unsustainable expenses, unsustainable salary demands due to others' being hiked and unsustainable morale issues.
And with regards to both of you mentioning Messi's contract not being used as a benchmark. Of course it is, you think Griezmann and his agency, one of the top forwards in the world, a marketable player and a World Cup winner, is going to NOT use Messi as a key benchmark? Who is his Griezmann's agents going to use as his contract benchmark to extract the most from Barca? A high figure - like Messi - or a lower figure like ter Stegen?
Griezmann for United would earn around £400-450K (€450-500K), why? Because we have a wage structure in place and it is a sustainable figure. He's being paid, I believe, around €800-900K at Barcelona , that is about 70-100% more than he would at Man Utd. It is not for nothing when the highest earner, who has shattered the wage structrue, earns €2.5m per week.
Absolutely NO ONE is suggesting anyone in the team receives the same salary. But Griezmann's agency, representing an elite player in his own right and a World Cup winner, doesn't turn around and accept a salary 6-7x less than the highest earner.
Not to mention, The Athletic has literally come out with an article today saying the EXACT same thing -
"A big problem for Barca, and huge consideration for all the players and agents involved, is that Messi’s sky-high salary set the top of the scale at the club. Bartomeu was widely seen as a soft touch by the club’s Catalan core of homegrown players who all got bumper pay rises during his term, and by agents of newer arrivals such as Ousmane Dembele, Griezmann and Coutinho. “The other players’ salaries are high because Messi’s salary was high,” says a source."
https://theathletic.com/2758624/202...arcelona-more-cuts-more-drama-more-anger/?amp
There's a fundamental lack of financial knowledge and what it means to run a sustainable model on display.
That’s my point too. They have a few league 1s, show that at the very least. That’s better than showing a fecking store!What trophies? Ligue 1's? Marseille and Saint-Etienne still have more of those even a decade after being bought by Qatar.
European trophies? They have no more than the likes of Aberdeen or West Ham.