That right there sums you up. You'd value Ronaldo tucking away the 4th goal from the penalty spot in the CL more than say, Messi teeing up Di Maria for a late winner against Switzerland at the WC.Still scored a goal, which is more than can be said for your man in 4 games in the WC knockout stage...
Whilst heading, freekick, timing etc mean nothing...
All of which Messi is also pretty good at.Still scored a goal, which is more than can be said for your man in 4 games in the WC knockout stage...
Whilst heading, freekick, timing etc mean nothing...
I don't know why he's included free kicks anyway. His boys free kicks are a bit shit, you'd be as well just giving the other team a goal kick.
Yea, that was intended (ref to Cait Sith's post). I just wanted to share another angle for that goal. I think the post came out really weird. You would think it's tough to quote a comment 10 pages back, without intentionally doing it!
That right there is the modern day problem with football, people only look to goals and nothing else. Ronaldo scored a penalty in 120 minutes against Atletico Madrid in the biggest game of his career.Still scored a goal, which is more than can be said for your man in 4 games in the WC knockout stage...
Whilst heading, freekick, timing etc mean nothing...
Err, don't want to spoil the party, but you too are one, sir.
keep fighting the good fight Cal, you're literally the only one left in that corner.Read the first bit. And also pot. kettle
No, of course, Sneijder or Iniesta should have won it. Don't make me laugh.
Don't have anything for this season, sorry. Maybe @Skorenzy does.
Had 2 penalties whole season, 1 in league another in CDR. Missed penalty against Levante in league, scored in CDR against Elche. This stat doesn't take into account CDR numbers.
He is. He's taken two this season (I think). Missed one against Levante in the league and scored in the cup.
Wonder how Cal will explain this one away?The penalty stats are ridiculous. Amazing how the supposed more complete player because of his physicality and two-footedness has scored 6 less goals with his weak foot and only one more with his head. He's also better at free kicks apparently... More complete player? Well, yeah, I'd say it's pretty obvious who's more complete!
Edit: The free kick stats (Liga+UCL) are in the picture below
naaah, now is the time for him to say that statistics doesnt prove anything
Yeah, it goes to show how unbelievably great he has been since, say, 2008 onwards that what would be an all time great season/year for other players is dubbed an average one for Lionel Messi. Makes you think about how much pressure must be on him every single game to live up to the standards he's set.
Whilst I do indeed agree with this I think we can all agree Ronaldo was clearly seriously unfit for the final (and the World Cup after that) so obviously he's barely going to do anything.
This is just silly. It says nothing about how many times they've shot with their weaker foot and how good of a chance each of those instances were. Here's one thing. Ronaldo plays on the left. He's right footed. Chances are he's more often in a spot to shoot with his right. Messi however has a free role. He's a bit more on the right side of the pitch but generally he's all over the place. His last hat trick for example, 2 of 3 goals were from the left.The penalty stats are ridiculous. Amazing how the supposed more complete player because of his physicality and two-footedness has scored 6 less goals with his weak foot and only one more with his head. He's also better at free kicks apparently... More complete player? Well, yeah, I'd say it's pretty obvious who's more complete!
Edit: The free kick stats (Liga+UCL) are in the picture below
That's not true. Ronaldo starts on the left, but most of the time he has a free role to roam whenever he wants. Most heat maps show him in the striker position. So saying he plays on the left is not true.
Comparing the CL final to some game against Switzerland...
He's quite good at heading?
Biggest game in his career? Isn't it the 3rd time he's played a CL final?
It's all fine and dandy when Messi fanbois invade that thread, yet you lot get all upset if anyone disagrees with your view.
Let's exclude penalties because it makes your man look bad, next exclude headers as it's called "foot"ball. Using half a season of stats is obviously the fairest way to compare players.The penalty stats are ridiculous. Amazing how the supposed more complete player because of his physicality and two-footedness has scored 6 less goals with his weak foot and only one more with his head. He's also better at free kicks apparently... More complete player? Well, yeah, I'd say it's pretty obvious who's more complete!
Edit: The free kick stats (Liga+UCL) are in the picture below
He is, just Real Madrid get a hell of a lot of them.
Comparing a meaningless penalty to creating a game winning goal.Comparing the CL final to some game against Switzerland...
He's quite good at heading?
Biggest game in his career? Isn't it the 3rd time he's played a CL final?
It's all fine and dandy when Messi fanbois invade that thread, yet you lot get all upset if anyone disagrees with your view.
Let's exclude penalties because it makes your man look bad, next exclude headers as it's called "foot"ball. Using half a season of stats is obviously the fairest way to compare players.
left is Messi?This passing-map is from their last game. Both scored a few goals in a relatively easy game for both teams; but I wanted to check what they did in the game apart from goals, dribbles etc.,
I am not naming which map belongs to which player. Which map do you like in terms of trying to influence the game?
Wow, that's 2 headers over his entire career.
Messi's is the right one clearly, and irrespective of the players I prefer the right one because I prefer attacking players that are more involved during a game. It's to be expected though, Cristiano's game is different to Messi's and he plays in a different set up so there's going to be differences in their passing.
