Abstract iceberg pic is a nice touchNow I know where I've seen him before:
Weight gags aside this has been rumbling for some time. I've got a mate who works at a Liverpool architect's office who has seen all kinds of dodgy goings on with Liverpool gangsters getting involved in property deals. The mayor is an interesting scalp but he's apparently the tip of a massive iceberg.
The polite way of saying he looks like the stereotypical English movie mob boss called Alfie who breaks fingers in the back room of the snooker hall he owns.He looks a bit of a bruiser.
He did get the part of cake in Layer Cake.He looks like a rejected extra from Lock Stock.
Whilst you're right, there's a big difference between donating money to political parties and bribery - i.e. paying someone personally to look out for you, which is what seems to be alleged here.I mean this sort of favours and contracts to people who donate to you happens all the time in the Conservative party - you just have to make sure you're doing it within the legal framework so if you do get taken to court they can't charge you with anything.
Of course if he's accepted money directly then he's stupid - but in theory there's no difference between that and hiring someone as part of your company to influence them, to get them to lobby on your behalf. It's just in practise you have to be smart about how you do it but loads of companies hire politicians to gain their influence.Whilst you're right, there's a big difference between donating money to political parties and bribery - i.e. paying someone personally to look out for you, which is what seems to be alleged here.
Property is a murky world. Money laundering is becoming ever more difficult for criminals and property is a decent way to do it, if you know what you're doing. and if you have the right connections.
I worked in Liverpool from 2001-2005, and every site had the same security firm. Some radiators went missing on one of the sites, so I rang the security company, and they said they'd look into it. The next day, they were all back on site. Apparently, they found out who had taken them, and hung them upside down off some scaffolding up in the air and basically said, if they don't get them back tomorrow, we'll feck you up properly.Now I know where I've seen him before:
Weight gags aside this has been rumbling for some time. I've got a mate who works at a Liverpool architect's office who has seen all kinds of dodgy goings on with Liverpool gangsters getting involved in property deals. The mayor is an interesting scalp but he's apparently the tip of a massive iceberg.
This sounds like 90s mafia movie.I worked in Liverpool from 2001-2005, and every site had the same security firm. Some radiators went missing on one of the sites, so I rang the security company, and they said they'd look into it. The next day, they were all back on site. Apparently, they found out who had taken them, and hung them upside down off some scaffolding up in the air and basically said, if they don't get them back tomorrow, we'll feck you up properly.
I had an issue with one of their payments once, and they rang me up asking why they'd not been paid, it was totally not my fault and I was only 21 and an assistant at the time, but they said they were holding me personally responsible for it. This was in December and it was nearing Christmas. Eventually I got it sorted and the main guy came to our office with some bottles of whisky and stuff as a christmas "bonus". I had to go an collect them out of his car, and he opened the boot and there was a shotgun in there, couple of handguns, baseball bat, knuckle dusters, etc. I shit myself and he said "That's what happens if we don;t get paid on time". Made sure they were always the first paid each month after that.
Brutal stuff. I want no part of it whatsoever, I don't even know why I opened my gob in this threadI worked in Liverpool from 2001-2005, and every site had the same security firm. Some radiators went missing on one of the sites, so I rang the security company, and they said they'd look into it. The next day, they were all back on site. Apparently, they found out who had taken them, and hung them upside down off some scaffolding up in the air and basically said, if they don't get them back tomorrow, we'll feck you up properly.
I had an issue with one of their payments once, and they rang me up asking why they'd not been paid, it was totally not my fault and I was only 21 and an assistant at the time, but they said they were holding me personally responsible for it. This was in December and it was nearing Christmas. Eventually I got it sorted and the main guy came to our office with some bottles of whisky and stuff as a christmas "bonus". I had to go an collect them out of his car, and he opened the boot and there was a shotgun in there, couple of handguns, baseball bat, knuckle dusters, etc. I shit myself and he said "That's what happens if we don;t get paid on time". Made sure they were always the first paid each month after that.
He's very large and very Scouse. He's certainly a local man.He looks like a caricature.
I think there is a difference. Lobbying is murky and unsavoury (at best) but to a degree it is out in the open and can be scrutinised. Lobbyists push an agenda and try to influence decision making. They are not the people making the decisions, because paying those people off strays to far and is, essentially bribery.Of course if he's accepted money directly then he's stupid - but in theory there's no difference between that and hiring someone as part of your company to influence them, to get them to lobby on your behalf. It's just in practise you have to be smart about how you do it but loads of companies hire politicians to gain their influence.
What the feck?I worked in Liverpool from 2001-2005, and every site had the same security firm. Some radiators went missing on one of the sites, so I rang the security company, and they said they'd look into it. The next day, they were all back on site. Apparently, they found out who had taken them, and hung them upside down off some scaffolding up in the air and basically said, if they don't get them back tomorrow, we'll feck you up properly.
I had an issue with one of their payments once, and they rang me up asking why they'd not been paid, it was totally not my fault and I was only 21 and an assistant at the time, but they said they were holding me personally responsible for it. This was in December and it was nearing Christmas. Eventually I got it sorted and the main guy came to our office with some bottles of whisky and stuff as a christmas "bonus". I had to go an collect them out of his car, and he opened the boot and there was a shotgun in there, couple of handguns, baseball bat, knuckle dusters, etc. I shit myself and he said "That's what happens if we don;t get paid on time". Made sure they were always the first paid each month after that.
Well the only key difference being witness intimidation that he was arrested on suspicion of. I don't think many lobbyists use that as a tactic.Of course if he's accepted money directly then he's stupid - but in theory there's no difference between that and hiring someone as part of your company to influence them, to get them to lobby on your behalf. It's just in practise you have to be smart about how you do it but loads of companies hire politicians to gain their influence.
He's certainly the victimNot his fault.
The first person I thought of when I saw him was Barry the Baptist.The polite way of saying he looks like the stereotypical English movie mob boss called Alfie who breaks fingers in the back room of the snooker hall he owns.
Even if he was, he just looks the part. Hard to get away from it looking like that. No smoke without fire.He's certainly the victim
Bruiser? Looks like Fred Elliott.He looks a bit of a bruiser.