Come back Luis.
Luis Suarez - Barcelona Player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Currently on 39 goals and 16 assists in the league. Directly involved in 55 goals. Unreal.
He'll win the Balon Dor unless one of Messi or Ronaldo is miles better from August to December of next season which probably won't happen.
Deservedly too, the annoying prick.
Deservedly too, the annoying prick.
So good that FIFA and UEFA won't be able to discount him from awards any more. He's incredible.
Or if he bites someone again
Euros could have a big impact, if Ronaldo does something special with Portugal.
Suarez could do the same in the Copa Americas centenary as could Messi or Neymar.
Besides Suarez has just been the best throughout. He's played at a higher level even disregarding trophies.
Hat trick.
It will be a crime if he doesn't win the Ballon d'Or. He'll need to have an absolute nightmare to bottle his frontrunner tag.
Totally deserves it. No one has come close to scoring Messi and Ronaldo's number for goals apart from him - and he's actually done it sensationally.
Best striker in the world.
Totally deserves it. No one has come close to scoring Messi and Ronaldo's number for goals apart from him - and he's actually done it sensationally.
Best striker in the world.
Ronaldo will win it, if Madrid with the CL.
Nah.
Should he though?
Ronaldo will win it. IF he wins the Cl and reaches the euro final. Would help if he does spectacularly in either final.
That's big if, I doubt Portugal would get out of their group.
Suarez has a great chance. Just needs to continue form at start of next season. If Barcelona didn't have that bad spell he'd be nailed on imo.
According to some portuguese poster (was it @Sly ?) they have a much improved team this year. Only lack a striker but are better in the rest of the positions.
They always turn up for the Euros. Plus Iceland, Austria & Hungary isn't the most challenging of groups, and up to 3 will go through from a group with the new format.
When I saw him and Sanchez in the WC 2010, I thought Suarez was a much better player. Was hoping we would be in for him.
Special player.
Definitely up for the Ballon....unless Ronaldo lights it up in the CL finals and Euros.
By that logic, if Griezzman shines in CL final and wins it and then wins the Euros with France then has a decent 3 months before December then he should win it.
I really dislike it when people use titles as a massive indicator as the Ballon d'Or winner. The team wins the Championship, not one player.
I really dislike it when people use titles as a massive indicator as the Ballon d'Or winner. The team wins the Championship, not one player.
Feck it, even if Ronaldo loses the cl final he will still win it if he put a few past germany in the euros final. Euros will decide all.
Neymar won't play in the Copa, but yeah, Suarez deserves it as of now.
I agree that is ridiculous. Except Ronaldo will then not only have won a cl being already topscorer of the competition without having played the final yet and having already scored 50 club goals in all compeitions this season. Hardly a David May balmy night in Barcelona 1998 story.
Plus I did say he will need to do well in the euros too to add to that.
Any idea what the calender year 2016 goals and assists leaders are?
Is this the future of Spanish football? Every top signing is going to rape their defences every season?
Messi and Ronaldo were considered freaks due to their ungodly goals to games ratios but its looking as if they just got there first. Suarez is as good as Ronaldo ever was this season and he's approaching 30. Neymar looks as if he will break that barrier soon while Bale is finding his shooting boots over there as well.
Messi and Ronaldo were considered freaks due to their ungodly goals to games ratios but its looking as if they just got there first. Suarez is as good as Ronaldo ever was this season and he's approaching 30. Neymar looks as if he will break that barrier soon while Bale is finding his shooting boots over there as well.
I think it's Suarez, Lewa, Messi, Auba, Ronaldo and Ibra up there and maybe some others. Not sure which order though.
Please don't make light of the term 'rape'. It will offend some people.
Suarez was scoring a goal a game in the premier league without taking penalties.
This.
Add to that the penalties And passes the likes of Messi is giving him and it's hardly a surprise.
I don't think he was but that really isn't my point. Would other top strikers going to Spain and destroying their defences diminish Messi and Ronaldos goal scoring feats? Do they become mortal players rather than these Gods they were made out to be?
Two points
1. The pair of them have done it season in season out.
2. Messi for example at his most dominant is a far superior player to Suarez as he can both score as many goals and run the game and be its most creative player.
It's easy to score a shit-ton of goals in one season. What sets the 2 freaks apart is their ability to maintain that form over 6-7 seasons and counting. So I don't think Suarez's exploits change much.
Also what Amol said.
Well for one, Messi wasn't considered a freak for his goals ratio. He does much more than that.
But thats why I said did they get there first.
Suarez is the best player in the world atm but is he not considered to be on the Messi / Ronaldo God level because he took the long way around and didn't have the advantages of being signed by United at 18 or come through Barca's academy?
Ronaldo is his greatest rival and he doesn't do much more than that though.
I'm confused. Are you arguing that Suarez should be put on the same level as Leo or Ronaldo? Or that those two are elevated because they did it first?
Im actually asking which one is it?
I don't get how Suarez doing it diminishes Messi & Ronaldo's achievements. It would imply that Suarez is merely an average player, but he's arguably one of the best strikers ever based on his last few years (at least one of the best of the last 25 or years).
It's not beyond someone possessing that level of talent, to have a season matching them two. What separates them is their brutal consistency. This is a career highlight season for Suarez, while it would probably be just one of their better ones.
It's not beyond someone possessing that level of talent, to have a season matching them two. What separates them is their brutal consistency. This is a career highlight season for Suarez, while it would probably be just one of their better ones.