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2024-25 Performances


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5.0 Season Average Rating
Appearances
12
Clean sheets
2
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
1
He’s done as a top flight player. Injuries have obviously robbed him of his pace and he’s lost an edge. He’s no longer athletic enough to make up for his poor decision making and mental lapses. He should never have started the final, despite his experience. Unfortunately, his contract means we’re stuck with him - yet another player who will ride out his time with us because his salary makes him unsellable.
 
Rubbish all match with his backward passes all the time. Yet we fed him the ball constantly. Killed any attempt at upping tempo. Looked gormless.
 
I always see him a mercenary with no mental attachment to our club (despite having spent 10+ years here).
 
Can't stand him. He's one of those who coasts through collecting paychecks. He coasted through the final too. Always with the safe passes, always dumping on responsibility to someone else.
 
I am glad that finally people are seeing what few had been seeing for years.
 
In what way was his second half 'more like it'? Lazy counter pressing, constantly getting square on the ball so he can only pass it backwards to Onana or Maguire whenever a shirt showed anywhere near his vicinity and most of his passes to Dorgu or Garnacho were at their heels and with zero tempo/speed. He had maybe one good cross and obviously had that header but overall, he was just so lethargic and with little urgency.

Maybe I'm remembering wrong because I just cannot stand his lack of effort. He has clutch moments and quality but it's overshadowed by 90% of his other game.
He still wasn't good or anything, but I don't think he was absolutely terrible like he was in the first half. In the first he was constantly putting the rest of the defence (and the team as a whole) under a huge amount of pressure with poor passes and poor decision making, and his own defending was also poor. In the second half he barely had to do any defending, but he also did seem to pass the ball forward and also went forward himself more often.

Basically first half he was the worst player on the pitch, whereas second half he 'improved' to the level of most of our other players (still not good enough).
 
Would have rather seen Heaven start than him.

Shaw just epitomizes a loser mentality. Rarely does anything brave or takes the game by the scruff of the neck (bar that year or so in 20/21 where he was incredible). Passes off responsibility. Just overall feels like an anti "clutch" player.
 
Hes like most of the players we have had over the past 10+ years. Passive. When we are on top he is fine. When we need players to step up and change things they are more afraid to make mistakes than to take a risk. They would rather hide behind back passes and offloading the ball to someone else than making something happen.
 
I think we play that if Dalot was fit for the 90.

It was either going to be Shaw or Lindelof and I think most people would have picked Shaw. Shaw has looked way off it since coming back, though.
I understand the Dalot concern causing the shuffle.

But even in that circumstance I go:
Dorgu - Yoro - Maguire - Lindelof - Maz

Yet what I may have done to retain an attacking sense on both sides is:
Shaw - Yoro - Maguire - Maz - Dorgu

Then at 45 mins if we're chasing and Shaw is poor, then Dorgu back to the left and Amad RWB, or Dalot 45 mins.

Shaw was shocking inviting pressure constantly and refusing to pass or take the ball forward from LCB. IMO it is the lack of CBs progressing the ball and disrupting the opposition marker shape, over the course of the full 90, that truly cost us.

Even going back a few years Sheffield Utd played the 3 CB formation better than us.

Ruben got his lineup terminally wrong. Of course, if they don't score end of 1st half, you never know how the second would have played out. But his setup was far from optimal best expectation.
 

Would have rather seen Heaven start than him.​


Shaw just epitomizes a loser mentality. Rarely does anything brave or takes the game by the scruff of the neck (bar that year or so in 20/21 where he was incredible). Passes off responsibility. Just overall feels like an anti "clutch" player.
Oh, but we can't have that. We rather go down in flames with traditional underperformers, and not consider trying something new, then use same feckin solution, and fail once again. Yesterday, all we needed to complete the idiocracy was adding Lindelof to Maguire & Shaw, and pretty much relive the same spectacle over again.

It's almost inevitable he stays for another season, because reality of sad situation continues to unfold, in favor of cynical football culture, inside the club.
 
He still wasn't good or anything, but I don't think he was absolutely terrible like he was in the first half. In the first he was constantly putting the rest of the defence (and the team as a whole) under a huge amount of pressure with poor passes and poor decision making, and his own defending was also poor. In the second half he barely had to do any defending, but he also did seem to pass the ball forward and also went forward himself more often.

Basically first half he was the worst player on the pitch, whereas second half he 'improved' to the level of most of our other players (still not good enough).

We're splitting hair here tbh but like you said I thought he was terrible/one of our worst players in the first half and then carried on with little quality or took on no responsibility in the second. Went missing a few times defensively on the left and as usual in no man's land where he doesn't press, track or win tackles.

Don't mind me, I'm just venting.
 
I said it last night to my mates - playing Harry and Shaw together is just asking to get beat. They have shown time and time again that they never work well together and Shaw especially has horrible communication and concentration issues.

Add Onana at the back and we're lucky it was only 1-0. How has Shaw been at the club for 10 years? What has he contributed? Don't understand why he has a fan base.
 
How many times did he say Manchester in the after match interview. We know there is only one real club in Manchester but normally you only see someone with poor English say that.
 
There was the vaguest of vague posts on twitter today claiming that Conte is a big fan and him and Shaw have a gentlemen's agreement for Shaw to join. I'm about 99.9% sure it's utter bullshit, but I am going to cling to it because getting rid of this fraud is one of my biggest hopes for this club to move forward.
 
His positioning for his goal was piss poor. Extremely disappointing for someone with his experience and with someone who should be considered a senior squad member.

To be honest, I think his time is up here in any case, and the sooner we move onto pastures new the better.
 
I said it last night to my mates - playing Harry and Shaw together is just asking to get beat. They have shown time and time again that they never work well together and Shaw especially has horrible communication and concentration issues.

Add Onana at the back and we're lucky it was only 1-0. How has Shaw been at the club for 10 years? What has he contributed? Don't understand why he has a fan base.
Seriously?
 
Came out in defense of Amorim which speaks volumes as I think he knows he has to tie his future to his here. Starting him and Mount in that final really made me question the manager. They should have been subs if involving at all. That OG was very typical of how he loses concentration at times and no longer has the pace to make up for it.
 
Came out in defense of Amorim which speaks volumes as I think he knows he has to tie his future to his here. Starting him and Mount in that final really made me question the manager. They should have been subs if involving at all. That OG was very typical of how he loses concentration at times and no longer has the pace to make up for it.
He does it with every manager. He always talks a good game after a poor season. He is full of shit.
 
His concentration is horrible and at times he looks like even he doesn’t understand what he should be doing l

As usual, Mourinho was right. Remember the whole ‘Shaw used his body with my brain’ thing?
 
Seriously?
It sounds really harsh but you can argue that he’s had three good seasons here which, in 11 years, is not a lot.

It sounds even more horrible to say this but he’s only ever won one cup final at the club, being injured for every other cup win, on the losing side or just not picked for the squad. He’s not had a lot of good luck here and the fact that he’s been here 11 years seems incredible to me. He is one of the players that I hope gets moved on in the summer.
 
He doesnt look good enough since he came back from injury. I know hes unfortunate and was a good player for us before, but theres a time for everyone to move on and its probably time to get what we can for him