[poleglass red]

nonsense. He was pretty good all half and ended very strongly

Exactly he has been an outlet the whole half, pushing up at every chance. I think people just like to shit on certain players

 

[Nick7]

I don’t think anyone played decent in that half.

Williams was very good all half? He couldn’t do absolutely anything against their defenders while having a lot of the ball (we only attack down the left today). In the last 5 minutes - fair enough

He was getting passed easily, and couldn’t pass the ball at all. No idea what the other lad is on.

 

[GifLord]

ffs Lingard 1 touch football exists

 

[Superunknown]

Had my first experience today of somebody in real life referring to Van De Beek as just "Beak" (like bird beak). I didn't know these people really existed until today. Do these people really think that some parent has given their child "van" and "de" as middle names?

 

[Kearnkoff69]

I agree with you but you are talking about the Johan Cruijff theory and we have Ole Gunnar. Different level as players and more importantly as coaches.

I don't disagree at all. I'm just at the point where I'm not expecting any major flair signings to come in this summer, so instead of moping our coaching staff should figure out how to best utilize the pieces they have. I can empathize with Ole in that we don't have enough quality throughout the squad to compete with City, Liverpool, and the like, but I have limited sympathy for how poorly our squad is being set up. I had the same complaint with Jose, who also moaned about lack of signings but never got the best out of the players he did have.

 

[FrankDrebin]

I must admit while watching the game I was telling myself not to have any high expectations of us this year.
Just go with the flow.

 

[Cheimoon]

There's nothing to blame today in terms of tactics or play style..etc. It's that most of our squad options are simply not good enough even against dross they manage to make it always a struggle. Has been like that for about a year now.

I'm not sure how true that is. I'm not watching the match at all, but shouldn't the entire squad now the team's system and be able to execute their roles as required? (To a lower standard, but anyway.) Or do I misunderstand you?

Also, if a team like City also play like shit in the cup with their second string, my point is anyway nonsense.

 

[Tiber]

Who is the stadium announcer trying to hype up?

 

[onemanarmy]

Had my first experience today of somebody in real life referring to Van De Beek as just "Beak" (like bird beak). I didn't know these people really existed until today. Do these people really think that some parent has given their child "van" and "de" as middle names?

Have heard it too, pretty weird

 

[Andycoleno9]

Maguire movement is so funny. Like a truck. So so so slow. When he needs to switch direction i bet that in his head he says; "Oh, no!"

 

[Ranchero]

If AWB can't take on, beat or go past a Luton town full-back, then I have concerns for him this season. We are constantly passing it out wide to full-backs who don't take anyone on. They run, stop, then play it backwards. If you don't have the guts to take these lot on, then we need some new wingers.

AWB is a case of a player bought who is not capable of doing the job we want of him. He isnt an attacking full back

 

[Harry190]

Sorry to say this, but Fred looks like a complete bust.

 

[Red Shorts]

I will be annoyed if he chooses Rashford over Greenwood to replace Ighalo. Surely he will make the change at the 60 minute mark?

 

[MattofManchester]

No point in talking about fullbacks making runs.
Nobody in our squad bar Bruno, Van De Beek and shockingly Lingard seem to believe in making movements to find space in advanced positions consistently.

Hell, even Bruno is doing it less and less.

 

[diarm]

I spent ages earlier writing a long in depth post about what's wrong with the club and how to fix it.

But the reality is much more simple. All but maybe 5 or 6 of our players just aren't very good at football.

 

[Nick7]

AWB is a case of a player bought who is not capable of doing the job we want of him. He isnt an attacking full back

I’m pretty sure we did not buy him as an attacking full back, so what exactly is your point?

 

[Charlie Foley]

Yeah I totally get that he can help pick locks with his 1-2's and vision, but the bolded issue is seriously exacerbated when our RB is AWB.

I agree with you there. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that he looked much better when he had Valencia at right back behind him (and Herrera as a right sided 8 on a similar wavelength). Complimented one another very well. (He also scored a lovely goal vs city in the 4-2 off the left). Unsure AWB is the right pairing for such a player as you said.

 

[Sassy Colin]

All the excitement from the commentators about Luton, Henderson is yet to make a save.

 

[Gandalf]

AWB is a case of a player bought who is not capable of doing the job we want of him. He isnt an attacking full back

He showed improvement in the second half of last season. I think the biggest obstacle right now is not having a proper RW in front of him. When your so called partner keeps drifting inside and you are covering the flank on your own you are naturally cautious about committing to far forward.

 

[Sara125]

Before this match I had no idea Luton are a championship team. Heard they’re actually decent too. I dunno there’s just those teams that you automatically assume are in League 2 or somewhere.

 

[Nick7]

I spent ages earlier writing a long in depth post about what's wrong with the club and how to fix it.

But the reality is much more simple. All but maybe 5 or 6 of our players just aren't very good at football.

Unfortunately, I think it’s more than that. The players aren’t good, but there’s a hell of a lot more wrong with the club than that.

 

[Gandalf Greyhame]

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but I'm alarmed by how easily Bailly was outdone at the byline.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Tunnicliffe is same generation as Lingard. One ended in Luton other is playing for one of biggest clubs in the world. Football, eh..

 

[Foxbatt]

I really would love to know what they do in training.

 

[Dudu]

How are luton so much better than us at keeping the ball?!

 

[MattofManchester]

He showed improvement in the second half of last season. I think the biggest obstacle right now is not having a proper RW in front of him. When your so called partner keeps drifting inside and you are covering the flank on your own you are naturally cautious about committing to far forward.

If we end up(by some godly miracle) signing a RW that is Left Footed, this will still be a problem.

 

[Withnail]

Sorry to say this, but Fred looks like a complete bust.

Let's not write people off in their first game. He didn't even play against Villa.

 

[Nick7]

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but I'm alarmed by how easily Bailly was outdone at the byline.

Bailey being crap doesn’t alarm me. He’s crap a lot more often than he’s good.

 

[MUM]

How's that against VDB?

 

[Annihilate Now!]

How was that a free kick to them? Lad just jumped and was nowhere near getting the ball

 

[Red Shorts]

Ighalo has been such a negative impact, he really needs to come off soon

 

[Andycoleno9]

I really would love to know what they do in training.

Having fun

 

[Ranchero]

We are desperately predictably predictable. It is automaton football with no guile, no incisiveness, no penetration, no end product. Depressing.

 

[Nick7]

If we end up(by some godly miracle) signing a RW that is Left Footed, this will still be a problem.

He’s looked much better better Greenwood than James. After the restart with Greenwood in front of him, he was looking much improved in an attacking sense.

I just think Mata is a tad crap a lot of the time now.

 

[redshaw]

VDB did absolutely nothing wrong.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

We have some seriously depressing posters on here. Just read a couple of pages and every player is useless, our coaching staff are useless and Ole is no Johan Cruyff haha

 

[GifLord]

feck off

 

[bosnian_red]

Literally the only trophy we stand a chance at winning, if the better teams rest a few players like Chelsea did against us yesterday. I say let’s try and win this, lifting trophies is fun.

Normally yes, but with our fixture list this year, staying in this comp only hurts us IMO. Especially come December/January. We don't have the squad for this or the Fa cup this year. No team in europe should need to play the League cup this year.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

I’m pretty sure we did not buy him as an attacking full back, so what exactly is your point?

If we want to get back into the title picture some day he's not the answer.

 

[RedDevil@84]

I really would love to know what they do in training.

Expressing themselves