None, unless it comes with an obligation to buy. I won't care whether it is 40m or 20m, but loan without buy is counter-productive, because we can't find a replacement CB in short notice.What good is a loan to us?
Ten Hag has established from the start that he won't play Maguire on the left under any circumstances, his competition is Varane and Lindelof.
I know, but imagine that was your preferred position and the manager still won't play you there even when Martinez is out and it's Haaland. Instead he prefers a LB to play CB and a lad who just got off the plane from Holland to play LB.Ten Hag has established from the start that he won't play Maguire on the left under any circumstances, his competition is Varane and Lindelof.
Yeah agreed, it was a red flag from the start that Ten Hag didn't rate him in his preferred position.I know, but imagine that was your preferred position and the manager still won't play you there even when Martinez is out and it's Haaland. Instead he prefers a LB to play CB and a lad who just got off the plane from Holland to play LB.
The question is, does Maguire accept that he's 3rd choice behind Varane and Lindelöf at RCB? Hardly a captains position.
Clearly there's no discussion to be had about a loan deal for Maguire right now, but you're right to note that if West Ham want to talk about Maguire, we should talk about Rice. In the summer, that is.If any team wants to buy one of your players, the first thing you do (more so the fans than the manager) is look at their team, and identify a player you would want in exchange. West Ham want Maguire, and amongst their team, Rice is arguably the most interesting player, hence why people are automatically saying, if you want Maguire, give us Rice. In reality, it is very rare for swap deals to actually work, so usually it is usually best just to focus on a one way deal, and as a standalone, are we happy for Maguire to go to West Ham? On loan I think is a stupid idea. For a decent fee, this may be our last opportunity to get good money for him, on the back of his strong showing at the WC, as he will lose value sitting on the bench for the next 6 months. However, can we afford to lose squad depth if we have a genuine shot at winning the PL this year? Bringing in another player instead is always a risk, particularly mid-season, and it is good that we are having the opportunity to try out Shaw at CB. I think we will see where we are at the end of the window points wise and with injuries before making a decision.
Is he really behind Lindelof? I think it’s just Varane.I know, but imagine that was your preferred position and the manager still won't play you there even when Martinez is out and it's Haaland. Instead he prefers a LB to play CB and a lad who just got off the plane from Holland to play LB.
The question is, does Maguire accept that he's 3rd choice behind Varane and Lindelöf at RCB? Hardly a captains position.
It's a loan move apparently, Inter have enquired, doesn't say it's definitely going to happen but they're asking at least. Also, Inter and Milan have imploded this season giving Napoli a free run at the title. All the teams are trying to get ahead of Juventus before they can re-establish themselves.No one's getting sold this window. The issue with these clubs showing interest in Elanga, Mctomminay, Lindelof and Maguire is why they didn't make moves in the summer.
I expect the loan fee to be a pittance paid over 30 instalments.It's a loan move apparently, Inter have enquired, doesn't say it's definitely going to happen but they're asking at least. Also, Inter and Milan have imploded this season giving Napoli a free run at the title. All the teams are trying to get ahead of Juventus before they can re-establish themselves.
I'll take it, they paid up on Sanchez and Lukaku so whatever they're offering we should consider, and ask them if they fancy Martial in the summer also.I expect the loan fee to be a pittance paid over 30 instalments.
I actually disagree. I think there are a fair few teams interested in him off the back of his WC and now he doesn't play enough to remind people he's shit.Would be a good move for him and potentially for us. If he does bad, well expectations can't get much lower already, but if he does good he could potentially get Inter to buy him or attract attention from other clubs and increase his fee. I'd move him. It's time.
Yeah wish we could get a £40m bid for a player like Chelsea just got for Gallagher,worse part is that covers nearly half of Fernandez fee,ugh pass me a bucketAll clubs have gotten together behind our backs and agreed that nobody will buy players from us.
Knowing us we’d probably reject such an offer if it came in for say Scott McTominay anyway. Usual ‘key part of manager’s plans’. We are too attached.Yeah wish we could get a £40m bid for a player like Chelsea just got for Gallagher,worse part is that covers nearly half of Fernandez fee,ugh pass me a bucket
Actually - yes.I'd sell any player now that we'd prefer to move on in the summer if there's a decent enough offer.
Think we wouldn't be so attached if Erik could trust the likes of Tuanzebe to step in for Maguire,however midfield is a different story because would have to turn to inexperienced youngsters like Mainoo & Iqbal.Knowing us we’d probably reject such an offer if it came in for say Scott McTominay anyway. Usual ‘key part of manager’s plans’. We are too attached.
Yeah sometimes you should take the money because may not get it again in summerActually - yes.
Or - I would perhaps say: "a substantial offer".
As in: someone a bit desperate willing to pay us good money here and now.
Who knows what might happen in the summer. Maguire - the obvious example, given what thread we're in - has two more seasons left on his contract.
EDIT: To be clear, if Maguire isn't a player we want to keep around as an option (a decided backup player), then we should absolutely sell him now if we get a "decent" offer, yes.
It's by no means certain that we'll get a significantly more decent offer come summer.
they are selling Skriniar to PSG which is probably lending itself to the Maguire storyInter in for him according to the Mail
Case can step in too if needed. Maguire's behind Shaw, Casemiro, Martinez, Varane and Lindelöf in the pecking order. I'd even suggest Bailly would get a game over him if he was still stinking up the place.Far easier to let him go than McTominay.
Shaw can be forth back up at centre back, with Williams as back up for Malacia. Not to mention Dalot has played left back.
Basically. Get rid if there’s an offer.
He's not shit, he's just better suited to a less physical leagueI actually disagree. I think there are a fair few teams interested in him off the back of his WC and now he doesn't play enough to remind people he's shit.
Also it doesn't matter because we can't afford to weaken depth at the one position we actually have decent depth at. He'll be gone in the summer
He is, but I don't feel like getting into the debate hereHe's not shit, he's just better suited to a less physical league
Can't say I blame you there!He is, but I don't feel like getting into the debate here
