Judas
Open to offers
Shite deal for us, no thanks.
I’m with you. But Shaw will get the real minutes before him anyway so I’m more relaxed with Lindelof keeping the bench warm.We should be getting rid of Lindelof before Harry but no club in the Premier League will take him.
In Reality if Maguire is on his way out the door, good, cause it will take him at least a week to turn round and he will be gone by then. side note BBC FA cup coverage at the moment being compromised by porn noises in the background.Actually I hope Maguire does stink up a fuss. Easier to get the oil tanker out, you'd hope.
GB, I thought moderating whilst under the influence of hard drugs wasn’t allowed?I’m with you. But Shaw will get the real minutes before him anyway so I’m more relaxed with Lindelof keeping the bench warm.
Maguire? Loan with obligation to buy for 45m. Job done
It would cost us 40m to buy a replacement and in todays market market, England captain, PL proven, must be worth 40-45mGB, I thought moderating whilst under the influence of hard drugs wasn’t allowed?
What good is a loan to us?Please be true. Please do it West Ham.
Geebs this is not even remotely realistic. He was barely even worth that when we bought him!I’m with you. But Shaw will get the real minutes before him anyway so I’m more relaxed with Lindelof keeping the bench warm.
Maguire? Loan with obligation to buy for 45m. Job done
When did this happen?It would cost us 40m to buy a replacement and in todays market market, England captain, PL proven, must be worth 40-45m
What is the obsession with Rice? He's not good enough. If he comes he is cover for Casemiro and I don't think he'll accept that
Found Ed Woodward's secret accountI could see him being cover for Casemiro, closing games at the #8 position when we're ahead and being the backup RCB. I'd turn that down if I was him and just try to go to Arsenal and count on Partey and Xhaka being older, or to Liverpool as Fabinho has played 500 games and appears to have hit the wall physically (and in their system Rice could play as a #8 anyways since they need defensive responsibility to let their fullbacks feck around and create).
But if he did come here and we sent West Ham McTominay, Maguire and 25M, he'd probably do well as Varane, Casemiro and Eriksen's backup and get a lot of games and improve overall as a player. But nobody wants to be James Milner.
People are throwing money around like it’s going out of fashion. Lesser players than Hazza are going for more than 40m. What’s the point in us offering bargain prices when nobody else is? We have to get better at selling.Geebs this is not even remotely realistic. He was barely even worth that when we bought him!
If Maguire wants to go there then let him go, even on loan. My condition would be that they pay all his wages. With Shaw showing himself to be excellent in the CB role, I think we'd be fine without him and we wouldn't have to tediously watch him take the captain's armband every time he comes on for the last 3 minutes.
Sure…. But 45million GBP? Only if GBP stands for “a Golden Blunder Points! In the real world, good luck with thatPeople are throwing money around like it’s going out of fashion. Lesser players than Hazza are going for more than 40m. What’s the point in us offering bargain prices when nobody else is? We have to get better at selling.
He would play with CasemiroWhat is the obsession with Rice? He's not good enough. If he comes he is cover for Casemiro and I don't think he'll accept that
No point in loaning him out. He is not a kid who needs training. And we are not here to do charity work and provide him gametime. He is one of our backup CB.
We sell him if we are getting someone else.
Properly the same group of people that wished us to employ Potter.I've never understood it
How is this going to benefit us? He's barely started in the league & is mostly limited to making cameo in the last 2 mins of the game. Even with Martinez out, ETH prefers effing LUKE SHAW in center back. The pecking order for CB seems to be: Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Lindelof...(gap)... Casemiro, McTominay ... (big gap) ... Jadon Sancho, Antony, Marcus Rashford, Harry Maguire (end). He is just not trusted for reasons obvious.Hang onto Maguire until the summer, then sell him.
How hard was that?
We should have left it at “West Ham can eat a bag of dicks”.Hang onto Maguire until the summer, then sell him.
How hard was that?
Putting unrealistic values on players who earn well above their market value in terms of wages is not getting 'better at selling.'People are throwing money around like it’s going out of fashion. Lesser players than Hazza are going for more than 40m. What’s the point in us offering bargain prices when nobody else is? We have to get better at selling.
I agreeIt would cost us 40m to buy a replacement and in todays market market, England captain, PL proven, must be worth 40-45m
I agree. Letting him go for 25-30m or less would be a mistake. Not like he's a shite player. He could be plenty useful to some team in the PL.It would cost us 40m to buy a replacement and in todays market market, England captain, PL proven, must be worth 40-45m
Up to a point, West ham wouldn't pay what was wanted for Lingard either after a very successful loan with them.They can feck themselves dodgy cnuts. They are perfectly fine spending money left right and centre to other clubs but when It's Man United of course they want to loan an 80m pounds player.
All them cnut clubs spending massive sums nowadays but always inquire us about loans. They wanna shaft clubs left and right with massively inflated fees.
Essentially big clubs are helping them by spending huge sums on overrated players but the cheap fecks wanna get players on loan for free!!!
Yea that was my thinking. Kind of a win-win. I think West ham will stay up anyway so very high chance the deal happens.That is a sensible proposal. And in that case -- i.e. if he keeps them up -- he should go for 30-35m and no subsidized wages. We have tried to sell players before without any success. I am not too keen on passing on an opportunity to sell Maguire with that type of return. CB is the position where we have the most depth.
we would be so defensive.He would play with Casemiro
You underrate Casemiro, and underrate how much more offensive Fernandes or a proper 10 could bewe would be so defensive.
If any team wants to buy one of your players, the first thing you do (more so the fans than the manager) is look at their team, and identify a player you would want in exchange. West Ham want Maguire, and amongst their team, Rice is arguably the most interesting player, hence why people are automatically saying, if you want Maguire, give us Rice. In reality, it is very rare for swap deals to actually work, so usually it is usually best just to focus on a one way deal, and as a standalone, are we happy for Maguire to go to West Ham? On loan I think is a stupid idea. For a decent fee, this may be our last opportunity to get good money for him, on the back of his strong showing at the WC, as he will lose value sitting on the bench for the next 6 months. However, can we afford to lose squad depth if we have a genuine shot at winning the PL this year? Bringing in another player instead is always a risk, particularly mid-season, and it is good that we are having the opportunity to try out Shaw at CB. I think we will see where we are at the end of the window points wise and with injuries before making a decision.What is the obsession with Rice? He's not good enough. If he comes he is cover for Casemiro and I don't think he'll accept that
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