He scored some bangers in semi and UCL finals and was the difference needed at times to win and progress. His concience is and should be clean.
Maguire | he stays!
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I think the hold up is over more money than that.
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Now they need to dispose of a player, not to sign one.
He's really milking it.
Doesn't make sense as we covered the difference. Perhaps there are truth to needing him as some kind of backup?? Something stinks in all this with those ETH comments, a bit unwarranted if exit was on.
Except the Telegraph and Guardian are reporting basically the same thing.
West Ham don’t want do break there wage structure. Harry wants his money. United don’t want to pay him all at once. They want to pay him during the whole of his new contract. Harry, and his agent, wants all the money up front. It will come down to something in the middle. I guess all the “leaks” just comes down to click bait.
We never did. The difference for 2 years is at least 10m, and we offered 6m.
Not the point. We only have Lindelof as cover without him.
Just pay up. Getting shot of this fecker is money well spent as far as I’m concerned.
The 30 million fee becomes 24 million if the payoff reports are true.
At his age and build I don't see how we can do much better than ~25m to be fair. A questionable buy, probably worth around 50m back then, 4 years on past his peak is about right but with Pavard being difficult to buy maybe ETH is ok with him for another season?
At his age and build I don't see how we can do much better than ~25m to be fair. A questionable buy, probably worth around 50m back then, 4 years on past his peak is about right but with Pavard being difficult to buy maybe ETH is ok with him for another season?
Not true. We have Mengi who played for U21 yesterday. We have Bailly. There is no problem putting one of them on the bench as the second CB substitute. We can also move Shaw at CB during the game if need be as another solution
If this is about United paying the difference between West Ham's proposed salary and Maguire's current salary, why wouldn't West Ham just offer minimum wage?
That's a serious question. I'm just wondering how it works.
Bailly isn’t involved with the squad and like you say Mengi played yesterday. Shaw isn’t proper cover as we’re missing Malacia.
If this falls through then I can’t see Maguire getting any minutes from ETH - the hostility towards him will increase significantly from the crowd as well.
He may well be digging in for a pay off but he will be the ultimate loser.
For once someone around him honestly needs to tell him to read the room.
He may well be digging in for a pay off but he will be the ultimate loser.
For once someone around him honestly needs to tell him to read the room.
How does it prevent him from sitting on the bench (with 5% probability to be subbed on during the last 10 minutes)?
Getting quite frustrated at how long this is taking. We suddenly seem to be slowing down in our transfer business, both in and out.
We have Maguire so no need obviously
No chance he is interested in WH.
Yeah, but they can't sell him without securing his replacement. They aren't able to do that because they aren't good at their jobs.
We need to force him out one way or another. If putting Mengi on the bench helps, it should be done
They can very easily. Defence market is full of talent now
We don’t need to force anything by all accounts he’s happy to move
This fanbase can't even get heated up about an ownership structure that has crippled us for a generation... I'm sure Maguire will be fine with a few more boos
He wants his money and fair play to him, any individual would be doing the same in his situation
I suspect EtH might be resigned to not being able to upgrade Maguire in this window and therefore wants to keep him for now.
United clearly wouldn't entertain it if they were taking the mick. West Ham probably have a pay structure with a ceiling for players they think are the best players they can attract. The difference United might have to pay him off with will likely be difference between that WH ceiling and what Maguire is on now.
Time value of money means that
190k X 2 + 50k X 4 > 100k X 4 + 50k X 2
Simply put: more money today is better than more money in 4 years time, all things being equal
Don't really understand the animosity towards Maguire. Has always been 100% professional even when dicks like CR7 and his cronies were conspiring against him. No matter what you think of him, he's very good as a cover option and I wonder about the same people that want him gone but want Mengi brought in when he doesn't even excel at underage level anymore. In an ideal world I'd prefer him replaced with a younger option more suited to Ten Hag's system but if we're going to have to pay his salary out until the end of his contract even if he goest to West Ham, I'd have no problem with him staying. If I had to keep only him or McT, it'd be McT I'd be getting rid of all day.
The irrational desperation to get rid of Maguire, who is now our 5th choice centre back, is probably a big part of the problems he’s been having. Sure, he’s made mistakes. But he’s not without his merits as a footballer and I think he’d perform much better with a sweeper keeper and a bit of support from his own fecking fanbase
Yeah obviously. We want him gone and trying to cover up our previous feck up (giving him that contract). But still, we haven’t bought out that contract and Maguire can either sit and watch in the stands for two years or try to revive his career.
It depends on how you rate Bale/Bogarde type if decision making.
He doesnt have the speed or recovery pace for a high defensive line, hence the need to get rid of him. WH will suit him perfectly, low defensive line, no space to run in behind and no need for maguire to be put out of his comfort zone.
He is potentially our second choice RCB, if he gets his shit together.
But it’s not satisfactory. We need someone to properly compete with Varane but such players are not common or cheap.
It’s true so
On the bench 
It would be such a short-term thinking. He will be 31 by next summer, with one year on his contract. Let’s assume that somehow we will be able to sell him for 15’ (a big if), with the wages he is on, it will mean that this year of him as fourth/fifth choice would cost around 25m.
Keeping him will be such a United move.
So he's staying?
He’s probably only on the bench to cover us if that absolute worst happens. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
Seems pretty clear we aren't desperate to get rid if he wants to stay.
I think we are pretty desperate as trying to pay him off but not a lot anyone can do if he won’t leave.
He will be suing he’s happy to be on the bench, manager will say he’s happy to have him but in reality it’s a standoff until finances can be agreed.