Yeah I completely agree with this stance,however whether Utd are thinking that too remains to be seen in the coming days
Maguire | he stays!
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Jonny Evans is definitely a significantly worse footballer than Maguire at the moment. At their best Evans was much better but he's not at his best. He's got one foot in retirement and just finished up relegated. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water just because Maguire is public enemy number one. He's far better as an option than Evans.
So we do have to be a bit careful that we get money in to attract a suitable upgrade. We can move Shaw there of course but it's not a great option because we start moving weaknesses around by doing that. Left back becomes the weakness. Which is not too bad but it would be by far preferable to simply get a young, fast centre back in that also shows good defensive promise. I'm sure the club is weighing this all up. Leaving the manager short is dumb.
So we do have to be a bit careful that we get money in to attract a suitable upgrade. We can move Shaw there of course but it's not a great option because we start moving weaknesses around by doing that. Left back becomes the weakness. Which is not too bad but it would be by far preferable to simply get a young, fast centre back in that also shows good defensive promise. I'm sure the club is weighing this all up. Leaving the manager short is dumb.
Given a large section of the fanbase has been crapping on him you can bet his second word is off
Yeah Shaw could be moved to RCB, which planet is that happening on because it isn't this one!
Replacing Dalot with Frimpong would be amazing.Yep and then next year we should have replaced AWB with Frimpong
The best attacking RB vs the best 1 vs 1 defender in the world in our squad
Dump the average Dalot out and have the best of two worlds at our table.
Sometimes, you just have to step back from the daily grind of life and have a laugh. Dogs just don’t bite people they‘re happy to see.
Think we could look at RB in next window depending on the form of AWB & Dalot
No,I don't think they could afford 190 a week so either Harry takes a pay cut or Man Utd supplement his wages.
Course he could, or maybe his partner could depending on who is better there. Not ideal in the modern football build up play but there's been over a century of football played with two right footed centre halfs playing. Making a mountain of a molehill. Besides, depends who is injured. You have Varane and Lindelof covering on the right and Martinez and Shaw on the left. Better to have another center back but it does work as a concept.
Exactly. Moaners complain that we always overpay --- and yet when we demand a higher fee for our own (outgoing) player, they become flaccid?
At roughly equivalent standing in their respective league at this point in time... Which probably means West Ham are magnitude more cash rich than AS Roma and a better "client" for United on these twos.
I'd probably choose Rome if I had the choice but well... ASR isn't in the running so.
EtH has made it clear that his CB's are going to be a right and a left footed combination, Marinez and Shaw ain't going to happen
Yeah definitely not
It only happens if they play a 3
Yeah that's the only way it works
We need a statue for Murtough outside OT if he can fetch 40m for Maguire.
£35m plus addons
We will see him for 30+5. And likely will sell McT for 35+5
So £75m for pair including addons
That’s what we are waiting for. Let’s see if that transpires. I am assuming 55+5 is what has been offered and we are waiting for 65+10. Maybe we accept 60+10
That sounds about right. Maybe a bit more upfront and a little less add-on, but that’s neither here nor there.
I feel attacked
Yeah could see them going up to £70m
They better take that £30m for Maguire before WH walk away.
£70m for the pair is good business.
£70m for the pair is good business.
I used to blame Ole for hoarding players that he doesn't need and running his favorite 11 to the ground. But I'm starting to think it is the club's management issue. Asking too much for players we don't need, renewing contracts to maintain value. Ended up not being able to afford players that we actually need.
Makes no sense we are keeping a player that we don't need by holding out prices that are unrealistic.
Makes no sense we are keeping a player that we don't need by holding out prices that are unrealistic.
I think we can push them up to £68m for the pair seeing as we value them around £75m
I hope you are right. It will be a good moves for the players too that they get playing time rather than sitting on a bench.
Yeah that's a meet in the middle figure
It was obviously Woodward trying to preserve asset value.
The more the player contracts were extended and the greater the number of players in the squad, the higher the asset value on our end-of-year accounts could look. Correspondingly, the higher the asset value on our end-of-year accounts looked, the more favourable the interest rates we could get on our loans.
Every one of our managers in the Woodward era was handicapped by that prat. Ole more than others because he was the last one who had to suffer Woodward's antics and by that point the situation with the squad had snowballed until it was completely unsustainable. We weren't a football Disneyland, we were a Muppet Island. There's a reason LvG and Mourinho both left in acrimony with the board.
Solskjaer talked about getting rid of players from a football perspective but it was never followed through from a business perspective. Thankfully EtH is finally getting the backing he needs.
Murtough feels like the messiah compared to Woodward. Even if he's only moderately competent, it's still a breath of fresh air.
If the manager thought he was a valuable squad player we wouldn’t be trying to sell him, like Maguire he is just someone making up the numbers. It’s keeping him that would be for sake of it just to give us another body, selling him is progressing which is what we never do.
We have too many players like Maguire, Fred, DVB, Mctominay who either should have never been bought or shipped out years ago.
I really really really hope we dont feck this and McT transfer up over being greedy. Sounds like typical United though.
Half this place was advocating for the overpaying for a player left with a year on his deal. Then turnanround and advocate for selling low when it's our players. However low you think of McTominay and Maguire 70m for the pair or close to that is a fair deal.
We’ll get about 35 for each. Last week people were outraged we didn’t take 20m for Harry. 65-70 coming in. West Ham supporters are outraged they haven’t made signings. These are guaranteed PL quality starters, good top 6 starters. Just not good enough to challenge. They are worth the money in a silly market we are in. The West Ham supporters will apply the pressure.
Let's put it inside the stadium to replace Maguire. Might be more useful
Selling Maguire is a no brainer, best for all involved and if we get £35m then it’s a good deal imo. I would stand firm if I was West Ham though, I think we need to sell him now, especially with how the fans have treated him of late.
McT I think it’s definitely worth holding out for a bit more and pushing to £40-45m. It feels like a less desperate sale and if we had to keep him, it wouldn’t be the end of the world.
McT I think it’s definitely worth holding out for a bit more and pushing to £40-45m. It feels like a less desperate sale and if we had to keep him, it wouldn’t be the end of the world.
Sounds like exact opposite of our buy high, sell for peanuts strategy so not sure how the funk you’ve come up with that.
35m for England’s starting CB is a very fair price that West Ham will pay.
Think whether it’s 30m or 35m it’s a fair price for Maguire. Let’s just sell and get it done so we can support the manager in any other transfers he needs.
This must be so close to being a done deal, never look a gift horse.........
What I don’t want is those two guys hanging around here for another year. By all means get as much as we can for them but, bottom line, get them sold.
Harry is 30 years old now and hasn´t performed consistently well for the club in 2 seasons now.
Rejecting a good bid of 30m at this stage is kinda stupid imo. What is those extra 5m worth in comparison to get a Pavard or Todibo for example in before start of the season?
Or maybe FFP has us by the balls so bad we need those 5m badly to get players in..?
Rejecting a good bid of 30m at this stage is kinda stupid imo. What is those extra 5m worth in comparison to get a Pavard or Todibo for example in before start of the season?
Or maybe FFP has us by the balls so bad we need those 5m badly to get players in..?