I don't think they were ever happy in the last 6 years but as I said SAF always believed in patience and keep giving chances till you're 100% sure it's not working out. If he talked now he'll say what he said when LVG and Moyes were there, that they're good managers and deserve time ..etc. This old generation is mostly all the same because at this time patience usually rewarded you off. Football has changed now though and you need to be ruthless.I hear what you're saying, but do you think SAF and SBC are happy with how things are at United?
Do you think they still believe Woodward and Mourinho are the right men for their respective jobs?
I don't.
I get that they probably have something in their contracts which means that as ambassadors, they have to represent the club in a certain way and perhaps can't say certain things, but who cares. In the interest of Manchester United Football Club, they should be speaking out IMO.
No use them sat there shaking their heads and not doing anything else.
I think this 'war' can be won with a proper PR battle. Which ultimately will impact stock price and put more pressure on Woodward and the Glazers.
Just my 2 cents, and I'm aware it won't happen, but it's what I want to happen.
What they say to the media and what they actually think, are two separate things IMO.I don't think they were ever happy in the last 6 years but as I said SAF always believed in patience and keep giving chances till you're 100% sure it's not working out. If he talked now he'll say what he said when LVG and Moyes were there, that they're good managers and deserve time ..etc. This old generation is mostly all the same because at this time patience usually rewarded you off. Football has changed now though and you need to be ruthless.
Might be wrong but I remember reading something about SAF and Charlton not being asked about the big decisions or their input not having much weight. That was under Moyes or LVG though, can't see that changing mind.SAF a Director at the club so I presume he's on the board.
He's not.SAF a Director at the club so I presume he's on the board.
Yeah I'm pretty sure they didn't like anything of what we saw in these 6 years. No one can like it actually, but as you said what's said in media is usually different.What they say to the media and what they actually think, are two separate things IMO.
There's obviously no way to prove it, but I'm convinced that both SAF and SBC have had enough of Woodward, the Glazers and Mourinho.
Like I say, you probably won't hear them complaining to the press about it though as it is not very...becoming or classy. That's my problem.
This is why I want them to speak out about it. They hold so much (external) power and influence which can make an impact.
Maybe. Although, I doubt his voice has much impact when it comes to big decisions in the club.If that's the case then he should resign.
Half of this lot can't even explain the offside ruleHe's not.
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Avram Glazer
Joel Glazer
Ed Woodward
Richard Arnold
Cliff Baty
Kevin Glazer
Bryan Glazer
Darcie Glazer
Edward Glazer
Robert Leitao
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How exactly did this clown get hired?
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How exactly did this clown get hired?
I probably know more about footbal than Darcie Glazer!Half of this lot can't even explain the offside rule
We also have contract issues with Martial and De Gea as well as potential problem with Pogba this summer.We have at least £200m of talent that is misfiring under this manager (Pogba, Lukaku, Fred) - someone needs to convince Woody that using £24m to potentially unlock that is a sweet deal.
I really hope the only reason Jose's still around is because we're still considering options for a replacement and not because we want to save £6m. That's without factoring in the money we'd lose from not being in the CL too.
Indeed, and I expect there will be others at the club strongly considering their futures under this manager. Mata and Herrera have already arguably nearly pissed away the best part of their careers under a succession of terrible managers.We also have contract issues with Martial and De Gea as well as potential problem with Pogba this summer.
To be fair I'd want all three of them in the squad next year to help dig us out of the shit. Not starters by any means but there are far more useless players in the squad.The club is dead, we are offering contracts to dead wood, it's the beginning of the end.
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All 3 are shit, they wouldn't get into the Cardiff squad.To be fair I'd want all three of them in the squad next year to help dig us out of the shit. Not starters by any means but there are far more useless players in the squad.
The club is dead, we are offering contracts to dead wood, it's the beginning of the end.
Honestly fine with this. I can imagine Mata being a player that an attacking coach would love. Herrera at the very least is a great bench option and when used right he can be vital in big games. Young is fine as long as he's limited to being depth for the fullbacks. Having a player who can play both flanks would help when we have our annual injury crisis.The club is dead, we are offering contracts to dead wood, it's the beginning of the end.
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Rojo is already on till 2021.Honestly fine with this. I can imagine Mata being a player that an attacking coach would love. Herrera at the very least is a great bench option and when used right he can be vital in big games. Young is fine as long as he's limited to being depth for the fullbacks. Having a player who can play both flanks would help when we have our annual injury crisis.
I'd be more annoyed if we're giving the likes of Valencia, Jones, Darmian and Rojo new contracts.
Bobby too, I suspect. So who are the footballing people at that level if not Fergie and Bobby? There aren't any.Saf DEFINITELY hasn’t a voice on the board on footballing matters. That was clearly illustrated by G Nev’s rant last night about the board.
Herrera i can understand as he still has some transfer value but the fact that we aren't in the CL next season should be used to trim the squad down of players like Mata who are never going to be first choice in the future, give a youngster his spot for the Europa league etc.The club is dead, we are offering contracts to dead wood, it's the beginning of the end.
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Same. Don't have any problems with it and there are players who needs to go way before they do.To be fair I'd want all three of them in the squad next year to help dig us out of the shit. Not starters by any means but there are far more useless players in the squad.
Exactly. Like Nev said yesterday, the successful guys from the marketing/money side of the business came over to the football side of things and the rest, well as they say, the rest is history.Bobby too, I suspect. So who are the footballing people at that level if not Fergie and Bobby? There aren't any.
Agreed, all three have seemingly good attitudes as well. While not starters, they're something that a new manager can work with. Far bigger issues within the club than giving these three new contracts.Honestly fine with this. I can imagine Mata being a player that an attacking coach would love. Herrera at the very least is a great bench option and when used right he can be vital in big games. Young is fine as long as he's limited to being depth for the fullbacks. Having a player who can play both flanks would help when we have our annual injury crisis.
I'd be more annoyed if we're giving the likes of Valencia, Jones, Darmian and Rojo new contracts.
Exactly. That list is the perfect example of why we are where we are. Just lackies and suits.Bobby too, I suspect. So who are the footballing people at that level if not Fergie and Bobby? There aren't any.
But he's the buffer between the board and criticism.Sack Jose, no more deadlock.
It's a win-win situation.
The man was willing to part with 100 million quid for a defender and Perez refused.Well you know: the player has to want to come as well. If Varane had wanted to come to United he would have been here now.