That's the problem: I genuinely think he's under no 'real' pressure, his recent rhetoric seems to confirm that.
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Not while he's got Fergie and Charlton backing him up at every opportunity.
I've had this feeling already months ago. Tonight is not really unexpected anymore. The sad thing is I would have always thought if it would become this bad somebody with a bit of common sense would have intervened and said Moyes lad you had a good try but it isn't working, here is the rest of your pay go and have a happy life but not as Manchester United coach. But it hasn't happened and if you listen to Fergie and Charlton, Moyes and the player you just know there isn't any sort of danger of him getting the sack this season.
For me it is really simple the PL is over for us. We might get EL or not I don't really care to be honest. Just sit out the season watch the team if I can enjoy the good displays, suck up the horrible ones like today. Hope for a miracle in the CL but if that doesn't happen wait until the summer to get excited again. Hope the club will brake the bank bring in a couple of good new signings and hope that Moyes will be able to build a decent team with them again instead of a sad bunch of losers like we saw today. If he doesn't manage to do that I hope the club will intervene and fire him in the course of next season, if they do hope they bring in the right man like Klopp or Simeone who could make our football exciting again and if they don't fire him or bring in another clown prepare for the worst which is this season for the next decade, Liverpool 2.0 in other words.
I dont think motivation was the problem.
I think it was part of it. Hence the half-time sub. But a lot of it is frustration. They look like 11 strangers out there.
Sorry if I am moaning a bit, but I am so disappointed with everything, the choice of manager, the coaching staff, but most of all the players. I would have expected them to show some pride. I feel sorry for the lads who live in Manchester area, their lives are going to be unbearable. The SAF era seems a lifetime ago.
You'd prefer to lose our CL place, our status in the game, the players, and a large section of our fans, in order to keep a man who's done nothing for Manchester United, except waste a lot of money, and to whom we owe nothing?
That doesn't seem rational.
I was talking about the free kick at the time
Did the word "with" lose it's meaning during the game? Bloody hell Moyes, at least leave the English language alone!
Totally gutted
I was willing us to go all out...but sadly I am not too disapointed...and it is not because of Liverpool either.
I am so numbed into expecting these results from Moyes teams.
almost afraid of the Bayern match now.
I am so numbed into expecting these results from Moyes teams.
almost afraid of the Bayern match now.
You are probably right but over time it starts to point to the top as being the cause of the lack of motivation/inspiration.
lets be honest lads...in just one season we have been surpased in quality by at least 3 teams...well tbf we should include Everton too.
Moyes may not have heard of the saying...'if it aint broke'.....
Moyes may not have heard of the saying...'if it aint broke'.....
Yep. It's the manager's job to fire 'em up.
its not just the motivation. they looked clueless at times...and lets be honest...we looked out of our depth...all this after one season?
Makes me wonder just what we are doing at training.
Less than a season. Fergie wouldn't have put up with that kind of performance.
I love posting in the match day threads. Whatever shite you say gets eaten up in the abyss. Pissing into a sea of piss.
Scholes is seething. Look at his face...
I genuinely assumed English wasn't your first language sorry; just didn't understand your post. Oh well. Sure Kagawa changed the game, didn't he? Oh well.
Another big game passes us by, utterly shambolic.
Fergie would have had better tactics and players who could have carried his plans out....
Sir Bobby still has faith in Moyes though....
look lads..I honestly think we are going to spend big money in the summer...but what scares me if Moyes STILL fecks up....we may see an exodus...unless some big name manager comes in.
look lads..I honestly think we are going to spend big money in the summer...but what scares me if Moyes STILL fecks up....we may see an exodus...unless some big name manager comes in.
History repeats itself. This from McGuinness' home game against City in 1970. Lots of similarities and one more goal for City. Warning, contains image of Best accidentally breaking Glyn Pardoe's leg.
Gutted. Now we have to put up with city fans sneering and sniggering at us for God knows how many months
What else can he do. He's picked his horse and he's going to back it all the way, come what may. If he turns on Moyes now, he'll have to turn his back on all his "United way" comments.
btw Fellani gets really shown up in games against quality sides....remember that one ball...he actually needed it to bounce before he could control it...bloody ell
EDIT: and thats why he lost it...numpty...
EDIT: and thats why he lost it...numpty...
And they wouldn't have given up either after the second goal went in. We don't fight to the final whistle any more.
I know what you are saying mate...but honestly I think Fergie and Charlton must be seething inside. I don't think they would have seen us finish 7th...which is what we look like doing unless Newcastle or somebody catches us.... oh wait Arsenal are in freefall too....
ahhh that is not even funny anymore....
I'm sure they are and, to be honest, you have to admire them for sticking to their guns. Ultimately though, the money men, Woodward and Arnold, will be the ones to swing the axe, no matter what the football men say.I know what you are saying mate...but honestly I think Fergie and Charlton must be seething inside. I don't think they would have seen us finish 7th...which is what we look like doing unless Newcastle or somebody catches us.... oh wait Arsenal are in freefall too....
ahhh that is not even funny anymore....
in one way that is the advantage. I know our lovable scousers would be hoping a repeat of the 'Souness' debacle on us....but the game is all about money. Just imagine all those big revenue contracts we just signed.....nah..I think big signings...and if we are not 1,2 or 3 next season Moyes will be out.
Dont know the reason why we didnt try for Barkley, but maybe Moyes made an agreement with Bill Kenwright that he wouldnt go for him.. Other than that - i have no feckin clue why a player of that raw talent escaped the net, when Moyes would have watched him grow for many years & he was pushin for 1st team starter shizzle at the end of last season anyway, so he must have known this season he was well ready for the Prem!
I know we lost & its gut-wrenching to lose to that shower, but it always feels worse to lose against Pool. For them to win the league this season would be a year of complete misery. I think we can handle City winning the league easier, due to the fact they'd have bought it again & everyone football fan recognises that.
On a side-note - I just heard that Bayern won league tonight.. Hopefully they'll be on the piss from now til next Monday!
dope the beer in Munich...
Yeah - he got his shit kicked out at half-time in the dressing room for being feckin useless...
I'm still trying to gather support for my suggested tactic i made last week. Pump LSD gas into the away dressing room next Tuesday night - gradual small doses of course. Jobs a goodun!
Did you eat the brown acid?
tell you what lads. Their reserves may even beat us....
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