Walters_19_MuFc
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It's not an argument. We're not 10 year old children. It's a discussion that people often have on forums.I don't care, I'm not looking to argue. Utter joke overall.
I have my opinion and you have yours.
It's not an argument. We're not 10 year old children. It's a discussion that people often have on forums.I don't care, I'm not looking to argue. Utter joke overall.
Exactly, you can’t lose 12 games before Xmas at United and keep your job your basically keep this rate up and the club will lose 25 games, has to go tonight, if not after Liverpool ?On your way ETH
Refuse to see it all you want. It’s was there in front of your eyes. They cruised to a victory when they didn’t need one and we did. We couldn’t even create a chance against them.Yes, I find it funny, has nothing to do with standards, them "toying with us" is as far from what this game was as it can be, funny indeed.
Oh yeah, I forgot, gears and all that shit.
He wants the sack. It is sabotage. But he shouldn't get a pay offExplain Varane not playing and the shite he spoke about he can’t play in the left CB Chanel and then he played him there today and then took him off to play Amrabat at CB !!!
While they had an amazing amount of three chances, the toying was glorious!Refuse to see it all you want. It’s was there in front of your eyes. They cruised to a victory when they didn’t need one and we did. We couldn’t even create a chance against them.
Good one!Pile of crap. ETH making his position unTenable. I don't dislike him much, but this is a game of results. Spent a fortune and bought nothing if value as far as I can see. None of his purchases have improved the team and we are down £250m...
Even so, you'd at least expect a professional goalkeeper to know the very basics of his craft.And who bought the keeper ?
No, I agreeIt's not an argument. We're not 10 year old children. It's a discussion that people often have on forums.
I have my opinion and you have yours.
Ok, I can’t quite believe you don’t think that Bayern were not playing at their utmost intensity and actually trying to go at us. They knew we were no threat, they didn’t need to do anything out of the ordinary and still strolled to a win. If you think that was them trying their utmost then you do you.While they had an amazing amount of three chances, the toying was glorious!
Probably should have used my line up hey.Come on you are not serious with that team ?
It would be a blood bath.
I would sack you on the spot picking that team
The manager and the players don't care enough. As long as they get their ridiculous money they can put up with anything. The platitudes that we will hear are empty. I can't hear more 'apologies' and 'not good enough' guff.When I consider some of the fantastic European nights in our history and compare it to the lacklustre show tonight… I feel deflated and realise just how far our once mighty club has fallen!
I was 100% right on losing and being out. Failure with this lot is too predictable.Don't be so defeatist.
I deserved thatProbably should have used my line up hey.
First thing to make me smile tonight.Noel Noel Noel Noel...
I worry when I read some comments. You think Onana cost Man Utd their place in CL? One player, one player is the reason we are out of a Champions League campaign? If you think Onana had any chance with Coman's goal this evening, then there isn't much to say.Can't say there is much to disagree on the previous comment on Onana. He actually cost us Europe with way too many blunders.
On Coman's goal... what the feck was that move by Onana? The goalkeeper should have the reflex of rushing the shooter in desperation.
Can’t wait for you cnuts to have your way so we can go through this cycle again for the 6th or 7th time since SAF.Exactly, you can’t lose 12 games before Xmas at United and keep your job your basically keep this rate up and the club will lose 25 games, has to go tonight, if not after Liverpool ?
Paying him off for 18 months at £10m is nothing in the grand scale of things, his tenure at United has finished so badly no elite club in Europe will look at him again?He wants the sack. It is sabotage. But he shouldn't get a pay off
I mean I’d love to agree with this but then think of how his Ajax side dismantled Real Madrid away from home and wonder what happened to that coach?Paying him off for 18 months at £10m is nothing in the grand scale of things, his tenure at United has finished so badly no elite club in Europe will look at him again?
His stubborn arrogance without foundation will soon see him returning to Ajax where he’ll produce a great Dutch team again, domestically but he’ll never do anything in Europe, he’s simply not tactically smart enough at European level.
He got Ajax to the semis and was unlucky to be defeated by late goals against Spurs. I'd say Ajax in the semis is a tremendous job. He also made them very tough to beat.Paying him off for 18 months at £10m is nothing in the grand scale of things, his tenure at United has finished so badly no elite club in Europe will look at him again?
His stubborn arrogance without foundation will soon see him returning to Ajax where he’ll produce a great Dutch team again, domestically but he’ll never do anything in Europe, he’s simply not tactically smart enough at European level.
It’s not about getting rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him, I was a fan of ETH but his sheer stubborn arrogance and his inflexibility, he’s told us for the last 4 weeks Varane and Maguire can’t play together because neither can play through the left Chanel and then today he played them together, the guys lost 12 f…..games in 3 and half months of football, that’s literally a defeat every week with defeats at home to Palace, Galatasaray, Bournemouth, Brighton, Newcastle.Can’t wait for you cnuts to have your way so we can go through this cycle again for the 6th or 7th time since SAF.
He’s certainly not at old Trafford, now is he ?I mean I’d love to agree with this but then think of how his Ajax side dismantled Real Madrid away from home and wonder what happened to that coach?
He was also 2 goals up to spurs in that semi final and lost that lead, he did the same against Copenhagen and Galatasaray this year, he’s learnt very little?He got Ajax to the semis and was unlucky to be defeated by late goals against Spurs. I'd say Ajax in the semis is a tremendous job. He also made them very tough to beat.
My issue with Hag is we don't see that football at United. It's like he has given up on his philosophy. He should be forcing his style and if players don't like it, drop them and sell them. That is exactly what Arteta did over a few years and now Arsenal are challengers. Too many managers at United fold on there own tactics and play the way the core players prefer to.
I think comparing that game to your example is like comparing a apple with a lion bar. It's completely different. That Ajax team was unreal and even though they lost that game, they shocked a lot of Europe that season.He was also 2 goals up to spurs in that semi final and lost that lead, he did the same against Copenhagen and Galatasaray this year, he’s learnt very little?
Stubborn, arrogant and like most Dutch coaches his hubris has no bounds!
Bollockspiel.Exactly, you can’t lose 12 games before Xmas at United and keep your job your basically keep this rate up and the club will lose 25 games, has to go tonight, if not after Liverpool ?
If you can't understand the sinister goings-on at Manchester United with regards to player power and PR then I can't help you.He got Ajax to the semis and was unlucky to be defeated by late goals against Spurs. I'd say Ajax in the semis is a tremendous job. He also made them very tough to beat.
My issue with Hag is we don't see that football at United. It's like he has given up on his philosophy. He should be forcing his style and if players don't like it, drop them and sell them. That is exactly what Arteta did over a few years and now Arsenal are challengers. Too many managers at United fold on there own tactics and play the way the core players prefer to.
Do you think Hojlund is able to do what Kane did?
Do you think that Hojlund will ever be able to do what Kane did?
When Harry Kane was 19, he was on loan at Millwall, where he had 22 appearances and 7 goals.In the future? Why not? But he isn't anywhere near the level we need at the moment.
When he was 20, James Wilson had 17 appearances and 2 goals for Man Utd. Unfortunately, many more footballers follow Wilson's path, than Kane's path. But the main thing is, nobody paid 70 million for 20-year-old Wilson (or 20-year-old Kane). Except for ETH.When Harry Kane was 19, he was on loan at Millwall, where he had 22 appearances and 7 goals.
When Kane was 20, he was on loan at Norwich. 3 appearances, 0 goals. Later that year, he was loaned to Leicester City. He had 13 appearances and 2 goals.
So Kane at 20 was not setting the world on fire.
The question was could Højlund put up numbers like Kane, and my point was that at 20 Kane was no beast. If anyone could have bought Kane for €70 million, they would have been stoked. Højlund is raw and inexperienced, who knows what heights he will hit. Could be world class someday, could be a donkey, but comparing him to Kane is silly.When he was 20, James Wilson had 17 appearances and 2 goals for Man Utd. Unfortunately, many more footballers follow Wilson's path, than Kane's path. But the main thing is, nobody paid 70 million for 20-year-old Wilson (or 20-year-old Kane). Except for ETH.
400m spent and all this team could muster is 4 points out of 18 and finishing bottom in a group including Copenhagen and Galatasray? Manager absolutely shares a lion's shame of the blame. At the very least.Can’t believe all those blaming the manager. This club has been going down the swanny since the bloodsucking leeches took over. Somehow SAF kept the show going for a while but the writing has been on the wall for years.
We are going to do nothing on the pitch till we sort it out off the pitch. Sacking another manager would be like rearranging the deck chairs on Titanic.
By the way we lost out in the CL by not beating the Turks & Danes home and away not tonight.
As nice a person that ETH is, and his record in Eredevise is also good, the EPL is obviously a step too far for him and dare it be said even some of the Serie A managers. Time to reset the team and actually make an effort to move on the overpaid and underperforming players for whatever it costs and reshape the roster in the shape of whatever experienced manager they attract. If that doesn’t happen then we are in for another 5 to 10years of irrelevance .400m spent and all this team could muster is 4 points out of 18 and finishing bottom in a group including Copenhagen and Galatasray? Manager absolutely shares a lion's shame of the blame. At the very least.
The good thing is I don't need you to help me because you ain't "the real lord".If you can't understand the sinister goings-on at Manchester United with regards to player power and PR then I can't help you.
Four managers over five years have consistently picked the likes of McTominay despite him being not very good at... Well anything really.
There's definitely a "has to play" ethic going on at the club for some players. It's madness.
Nothing really but he stands still in one v ones and the trick is to keep moving forwards
Wtf was he supposed to do there?
Yes you were. Well done.I was 100% right on losing and being out. Failure with this lot is too predictable.
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