Cheers for this, stuck a tenner on.
Manchester United Vs Swansea City
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No, I'm fine with language mate but I was warned to stop swearing at people and insulting them so obviously it's the same for everyone.Okay, can you stop talking nonsense please? I do apologise for my language if it's upset you, dear oh dear
Also, I'm not talking nonsense. Hernandez is a great poacher but a poor all round striker.
I take it that the 3rd of January 2010 doesn't ring any bells then? We lost to fecking Leeds United and we had the likes of Berbatov, Rooney and Owen. This was Sir Alex's side.
- 29 Kuszczak
- 02 Neville
- 06 Brownyellow card
- 20 Fabio Da Silva
- 23 Evans
- 08 Anderson (Owen 69)
- 28 Gibsonyellow card
- 09 Berbatov
- 10 Rooney
- 19 Welbeck (Valencia 57)
- 26 Obertan (Giggs 57)
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Welbeck didn't do anywhere near enough today. I've always supported him but feel his desire will always stop him from becoming world class.
The one big positive was Buttner's performance. I thought he was United's best player.
I think you're allowed a few bad games if you win the league.
I take it that the 3rd of January 2010 doesn't ring any bells then? We lost to fecking Leeds United and we had the likes of Berbatov, Rooney and Owen. This was Sir Alex's side.
- 29 Kuszczak
- 02 Neville
- 06 Brownyellow card
- 20 Fabio Da Silva
- 23 Evans
- 08 Anderson (Owen 69)
- 28 Gibsonyellow card
- 09 Berbatov
- 10 Rooney
- 19 Welbeck (Valencia 57)
- 26 Obertan (Giggs 57)
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I expected this. Yes Inter's problems were far worse and some other things triggered their downfall, but did Mourinho invest time or attention in academy there in those 3 or so years? At least I am not aware of it. With Mourinho, it is about short term, 3-4 years. It is entirely possible that our famed academy would have been left in tatters after Mourinho had he been appointed coach and we would have been left to carry out business the way Chelsea or City do, only, we have a huge debt which would have made it tough.
I think we need to keep patience with Moyes for sometime. There is no guarantee of success mind you, but I trust him to turn it around next year and he should get chance to shape team the way he wants. Just hope, we somehow retain top 4.
Not if you are Sir Alex Ferguson. He had that fire in his belly and he was a sore loser. If you think Sir Alex would have been happy to lose against Leeds then you have another think coming. I don't think any Manchester United fan would have been happy to lose against their rival either.
He was given a target ie instant success. He achieved it. Moratti had the same patience of Roman Abramovich with the only difference he wasn't as rich (he's not a poor guy but not as rich). Like any other manager Mourinho was on buying time.
Regarding Moyes I'll insist on what I said before. We should keep him till the end of the season, we should monitor his transfer deals in January (money should be spent but we shouldnt spend another 28m on a toilet brush) but we should still back him up. If United are out of the top 4 spot then he should be kicked out.
That Leeds game was a freak to show even Fergie got back luck occasionally.
The way that twat of a striker of theirs actually miscontrolled the ball yet it completely worked, was remarkable.
The way that twat of a striker of theirs actually miscontrolled the ball yet it completely worked, was remarkable.
January transfer window is not the right one to bring the exact players needed, we all know that. Unless special players are available who are not playing in Europe, it is very tough. Even if we finish outside top 4, I would expect him to be given a year more at least to set it correct in summer and next season.
It's never okay to lose against any team but his overall performance at the end of the day is what matters. It's not dealing with a loss and 7th place in the PL plus possibly no place in the CL. It's a compounded situation that's causing everyone to be in doubt and wonder what next. We were all upset about the Leeds defeat but guess what, we bounced back due to the fact that we were wining other games and competitions unlike this season where we have nothing to fall back on.
Fair dues, maybe I was being a bit of a dick but it's hard not to at times in the match day threads because you get so many people coming out with right ridiculous stuff.
For me Hernandez has come on leaps and bounds. Shown a much better touch, shown he can pass well, holds the ball up decent enough and his dribbling has improved big time. I think he rubbished enough claims that he couldn't do anything outside of the box and that's why I reacted the way I did, because I just don't get why people are still saying he can't pass or run with the ball.
Hehe, we finished second that season.
He's regressed this season mate. He did improve a lot in those areas but too many times this season he's been found wanting when it comes to leading the line. My point is, he should not be picked to be doing that. If you're playing two up top and he can play as a poacher, fair enough but not leading the line.
Damn you!
right that was 09-10 I'm so used to us winning
kill it with fire...bloody jinx
I thought we would at least hold on for a replay, we just look so uninspired at the moment, these defeats no longer come as a surprise.
We didn't have a single quality player on that field today- everyone can blame moyes but this is the players' fault- there is no quality and no desire.
There was some quality, but you have to question the desire of the players. It is still as if they are still trying to hold onto Sir Alex's apron strings. Why can't they let go and get on? If they don't have the desire to play under Moyes then they know what they can do. Sir Alex isn't there to wipe their arses anymore and they better get used to it.
Oh same old, same old. He's leading the reigning champions, he was given 28m to spend in summer and probably the same amount in January. If he cant at least reach the top 4 spot then what the hell he's doing there?
Me too, glad to see the lad have a good game. I think he can become a good player.
Yes, I'd say it's a lot to do with the fact that we're hurting at the moment Rob. We're hurtin' real bad.
Agreed. I'm a firm believer that confidence is a major issue with him, and his development is being hampered because his confidence is shattered. Fergie seemed to get the best out of him, and people here who are now slagging him off, thought he was the bees knees then.
Has anyone seen the video of Mike Dean visually shaking his head and throwing his arms out on disgust as one of Swansea attacks broke down ?
All over my facebook but I don't know how to post the link from my phone.
All over my facebook but I don't know how to post the link from my phone.
Yeh, was pretty funny and given our current situation, not surprising
feck I assumed it was a fake, Michael Owen missed it in his commentary too.
I saw that. I think he reacted by playing advantage and imeediately United won the ball. I'm sure the reaction was a result of him realizing it was the wrond decision. He certainly didn't do a Howard Webb that match.
Have we any players returning from injury for this game? Rooney and Rafael may not be far from fit.Nani,Jones,Fellaini and Van Persie most certainly won't be ready.With Chelsea away sandwiched between our next two home games we have to get back some home form back and we're only 5 points off 4th.What for 7 points from the next three games.Can't imagine what the team will be but it should include Adnan and Valencia and hopefully Rooney with Danny up front! I am wondering just how inspirational Daves team talks are but more than ever he needs to impress upon them! They have to get some self confidence back and some belief.Swansea will be full of it on Saturday and so we must be mentally prepared or we'll be beaten once more.
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