We might as well keep him in the summer as we have no other options upfront right now and poor Rasmy isnt quite ready yet.
Martial exit?
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I disagree. He is awful and his poor mentality is the sort of thing we need to shift. Let him go for nothing.
This is all gearing towards a new contract isn’t it
It’ll just be on “vastly reduced wages” which are still probably double anyone else offered
It’ll just be on “vastly reduced wages” which are still probably double anyone else offered
That would be a calamitous mistake. So it's perfectly possible.
We'd get more out of a striker that plays in the Championship. Just get these guys out of the club and start setting some real standards around the place in regards to expectations.
If we keep him beyond the summer then any faith in Ineos will instantly vanish
Injuries are to blame. In 18/19 he scored 10 goals and had 3 assists in 27 EPL games. 17 goals and 7 assists in the EPL in 19/20 and 23 goals and 12 assist all competitions. He wasnt even in his mid twenties at the time.
After that the injuries started and he never reached that level again. Its a shame people here act like he never achieved anything or never done anything for Manchester United. They are either too stupid to remember that time or their hatred for Martial has grown so much that they are willingly ignoring how good and promising he once was.
Im convinced that without those injuries and if he just kept developing even at a normal pace, he would be amongst the best forwards in the EPL. It really is a shame. I do agree that parting ways is the best option now. He is a shadow of the player he was or could have been.
And of course he's not going to be willing to leave in January when he's set to earn another £5m between now and the summer.
No other club is going to pay him a fraction of that. Financially he'd be better off freeloading here for the last 6 months of his deal and then retiring than playing another 5 seasons at his market value wages.
No other club is going to pay him a fraction of that. Financially he'd be better off freeloading here for the last 6 months of his deal and then retiring than playing another 5 seasons at his market value wages.
Hmm, let me see...'fight for his place at Utd for 6 months' in other words, warm the treatment bench for 6 months or have an opportunity to demonstrate his lethargy at another club? Which option will he take?
Unless it's an offer we can't refuse or we are getting a good replacement in this window, he should stay until the summer.
He's a crock and lost a few steps but we were still better with him than with Wout in the team last year, so another scenario like that would be a waste of time and equally as frustrating.
He's a crock and lost a few steps but we were still better with him than with Wout in the team last year, so another scenario like that would be a waste of time and equally as frustrating.
Exactly.
A situation entirely manufactured by Man Utd like so many others.
We pay our players far too much for a club that regularly struggles to qualify for the Champions League. Nobody who is interested can afford our cast offs. Nobody who can afford them is interested in our cast offs.
By having such a ridiculous wage structure, we have ended up carrying deadweight for years.
There was no way Martial was going to leave unless United were willing to lure him into it with a big goodbye pay off.
He doesn't want to play. He wants to collect his fat check and hang out with his mates. Jose was right about him from the start.
No surprise. At best he'll join a small French club in the summer (assuming he might want to return to living in France), or he'll join the former United player free agents in unofficial/unannounced retirement.
His options are very limited, but he might have a few more come the summer if he can join on a free.
His ongoing illness is strange though because if he can't contribute anything (or EtH doesn't want him involved) then you might as well pay his contract off and tell him to stay away.
His ongoing illness is strange though because if he can't contribute anything (or EtH doesn't want him involved) then you might as well pay his contract off and tell him to stay away.
Same, we know there are limits and issues with the ownership structure and if we're forced to keep him for whatever reason then hopes for any meaningful change under this model will feel even more clearly unrealistic.
in days of yore he'd be due a testimonial next year... Let that one sink in
Injuries destroyed him. He was probably our best player in 19/20, but then in 20/21 his form fell off spectacularly and he was shit. We later found out he was playing through injury and could barely sprint, but kept playing because Ole told him we needed him. That season ended with a torn knee ligament (not sure if it was the injury he'd been struggling with all season getting worse or if it was a new injury) and he's never been remotely the same since. He's spent the last three and a half years constantly injured and lost a lot of the speed and agility that he had when younger.
In saying that, when he's fit he isn't as bad as most people make out. He had the two terrible seasons of 20/21 and 21/22, but his last two seasons have been...well, not good or anything, but also nowhere near as bad as is often said. A fit Martial still has a fairly strong claim of being our best striker, it's just that a fit Martial is becoming increasingly rare.
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From Martial's perspective, it is probably a smart move to stay at United and run down his contract.
If he goes out on loan, chances are he flops, thus lowering his salary value. Better to sit on the bench, or in the wellness room, at United.
If he goes out on loan, chances are he flops, thus lowering his salary value. Better to sit on the bench, or in the wellness room, at United.
Signing in 2015. Hopefully he doesn't get to 10 years.
You imagine how many people would be at an Anthony Martial testimonial?
Lucky to get 10k with free tickets.
Probably still more than a Phil Jones testimonial- a player who actually won trophies and achieved titles with the club.
Zero sympathy for him if he chooses to stay with other offers.
Got a pretty similar goal to game average to Rashford since they both played here. Shame he’s been ravaged by injuries for years but can’t be relied on for anything these days. He’s definitely not as bad as people make out but his inability to stay fit/motivated whatever it is however leaves a lot to be desired. Too many people just happy to be here and this culture has to go.
Makes sense for him as he's unlikely to make a good enough impression at any of the teams interested to change ManUtds mind to extend the contract, by staying he can maybe have a purple patch or move some strings at a personal level to get that one year extension.
Anyway by any means we shouldn't extend his contract, he's mostly unavailable due to injures or fitness and when he plays his body language is awful plays like he doesn't care. Waste of wages and promotes an awful culture. Players like this need to go, we have way too many passengers in the team earning top wages which inevitably leads to increase the wages of the squad.
What an idiot, he is obviously in a position to ask for 3-4 years elsewhere and a less demanding league will probably mean the buying team gets a lot out of him. A 4 year contract at whatever wage is going to be worth more in signing bonuses etc. than 6 months here where there is no chance he gets renewed.
He can stay and do nothing for 6 months and get paid an obscene amount or go on loan/sign for a new club on less money and actually have to put some effort in.
Wonder what he will choose.
Wonder what he will choose.
I very much doubt any club would be prepared to offer him a 4 year deal at his age and with his injury record over the last couple of years. I also doubt he'll receive an offer as lucrative as the one he'll be on for the remaining 6 months of his deal here.
From his perspective it makes sense to sit tight and take the best deal he can get for himself in the summer if he isn't being pushed out. The security of the contract he has for the next 6 months is probably pretty appealing for someone with his injury record, and if he does get fit our options up front are so poor he'll probably still receive minutes regardless.
Been absolutely shite for years now. There’s not another ‘top club’ who would have kept him around this long it’s a complete farce.
Funny how it took Sevilla about 2 weeks to realise he was shite and here we are about 9 years later still paying him
Should pay up his contract and release him. Set a marker for the rest of the lazy cnuts.
Funny how it took Sevilla about 2 weeks to realise he was shite and here we are about 9 years later still paying him
Should pay up his contract and release him. Set a marker for the rest of the lazy cnuts.
Don't really blame him for sticking around. He's on a ridiculous contract and is still better than Hojlund at the moment.
Yeah, he's pretty much Bogarded his way through a huge contract, may as well see it out. But if the club simply can't offer him another year, it would be incredibly dumb.
The worst part is, you will have people that still think he can offer something, even after he's been booted out the door.
Is he feck. How can a player with a terrible attitude, no work ethic, who can't sprint better? He's shite.
More to the game than running fast.
Yes. Work ethic is essential. Everything else comes second, unless you are Messi.
He is well and truely shafting us by staying, he clearly doesnt want us to get a transfer fee for him and knows he wont get the wages he is on at any other club.
Why brings nothing to the team, I’d rather have ten men out there
There is no reason to not let Martial go if there really is another club willing to accept his contract for the remainder of this season.
If we were pushing for a CL or PL trophy then we'd want the extra pair of boots in case they're ever needed, but we're not in that positions and we're much better off giving Joe Hugill a chance if injuries continue to decimate the squad.
If we were pushing for a CL or PL trophy then we'd want the extra pair of boots in case they're ever needed, but we're not in that positions and we're much better off giving Joe Hugill a chance if injuries continue to decimate the squad.
I think shafted is a bit extreme, at best we'd probably only be able to loan him for the 6 months with us covering most of his wages, or just pay off a percentage of contract to leave, both of which don't make much sense.
To expect him to leave and take a reduction in his wages to allow us to get a bit of a transfer fee for him was never going to happen.
Give out stupid contracts, pay the price when we can't get rid. Not his problem.
Yes but at the time he said it about Martial it wasn't true.
Anything can come true ages later
Out of the two I know who I'd trust to put the ball in the net when presented with a good chance and sadly it isn't Rasmus.