I am pretty sure that if Martial leaves, we would sign another attacking player as we would be one short. Hopefully it wouldn't come to that though.
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Really? I'd much rather get the established talent and bring the end product sooner. We have too much talent awaiting to reach their peak.
I still think that for all his talent, he hasn't progressed much since his debut and for all his skill, he's often far too static and runs into brick walls. He needs to start learning from Sanchez and bring more diversity to his game, and move about the pitch more. Until then, he's not going to make it here as a starting winger.
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Agree with all the faults you’ve mentioned. But all that can and should be worked on during training as coaching. The running into brick walls and lack of movement into space is decision making that can be improved through proper coaching. He’d be devastating under any one of Pep, Poch and Klopp.
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Delaney the idiot is running with a complete different story, that Martial is the one who wants to stay and the club and Jose want to sell him.
I think he had stomach for it when he was up against Rashford, but Alexis coming in I front of both seems to have really done for him. Will be a shame, he will go somewhere else and look good, bit we have lost players before and survived, although I am not keen on the shorter term out look of signing Alexis.
Athletico would be ideal as they will hopefully be flush from selling Griezmann
Gutted with this. He will be huge star. He has flaws but his attacking ability is fantastic.
Martial on the left, sanchez on the right , lukaku on no9. I was so happy when i thought that we will play like that in next couple of years. How naive i was?
Martial on the left, sanchez on the right , lukaku on no9. I was so happy when i thought that we will play like that in next couple of years. How naive i was?
I think you're probably right, when he was against Rashford he knew that one of them would play so he was content with that but Sanchez coming in might have made his mind up for him.
If we do sell, I imagine it would be to someone like Athletico or Juve. It would be disappointing but if we prioritized the right hand side and made a good signing there it wouldn't be so bad. I do like him as a player though and it would be disappointing to see him leave.
It's a bit sentimental obviously since I'd rather see a player who has been with the club since he was 18 be successful for that said club that someone who arrives here at the end of their career, but building a strong core of talented players who genuinely keep on playing for the club for a larger period of time is a genuinely useful thing. There are loads of benefits from that.
And besides, as previously stated, Alexis has been largely hit or miss so far. So there's an element of risk there as well.
RMC is much reliable than Miguel Delaney. But I remember a month ago RMC reported United delayed the contract extension of Martial and now reporting he rejected a new contract intends to leave.
Was our top attacker behind Lukaku
Then gets benched.
Only behind Lukaku in terms of G+A too
Then gets benched.
Only behind Lukaku in terms of G+A too
Combined goals and assists across all competitions this season:
Anthony Martial - 21
Marcus Rashford - 20
Jesse Lingard - 18
Starts in the PL
Lingard - 17
Martial - 16
Rashford - 14
Anthony Martial - 21
Marcus Rashford - 20
Jesse Lingard - 18
Starts in the PL
Lingard - 17
Martial - 16
Rashford - 14
Martial has 14months on his contract and can sign a pre contract by January. So forget the idea that he can be bring huge money when the buying club can simply wait it out and get him for free.
He is not getting ahead of Sanchez so more bench roles for him. As a result he is losing his NT spots
Bayern Juventus Atletico and several EPL clubs(Chelsea, Arsenal Spurs etc) will love to have him and he will start at these clubs
Personally I feel he has big potentials and he will blow up elsewhere with regular minutes and confidence
He is not getting ahead of Sanchez so more bench roles for him. As a result he is losing his NT spots
Bayern Juventus Atletico and several EPL clubs(Chelsea, Arsenal Spurs etc) will love to have him and he will start at these clubs
Personally I feel he has big potentials and he will blow up elsewhere with regular minutes and confidence
We'll extend his contract to 2020. We've an option of one year extension. So if we sell, he'll bring in big money.
Earlier today it was Rashford and now Martial.
Mourinho is working his magic again...well done!
Mourinho is working his magic again...well done!
exactly. Sanchez has been the definition of hit and miss, and yet people are making it seem like he has been on fire for us and martial just needs to suck it up. All because of an impulse screw city buy we have gone from seeing both martial and rashford, to now only MAYBE seeing one per game. Just unacceptable. I could handle this if i had faith in mou long term, but what has he shown for staying at a place long term and building? Feel like next year we will sacrifice any youngsters who should be getting playing time all because mou will know it is make or break year. 22 year old french international who has like 24 goals in 80 something apps, plenty of those being sub apps, over 2 different managers/systems, and getting tossed aside. If im TFM and tuanz im not thinking either about staying here next season and playing at all. Will be the same over the hill seniors on the backline too i bet.
He has an extension option in his contract which the club can trigger at will.
Sanchez has played a mere handful of games so far in his short United career, how did you arrive at this conclusion?
Just hope it won't be another Mhiki.
You and me both mate
I was so convinced as well.
I think it said specifically that he wants to leave, and that's why he rejected it.
What if they are being worked on but he's not catching on? What if he is not keen? What if he feels he knows it all? Just saying.
My point is that we don't really know. This might be a case of Jose absolutely mismanaging a great talent or the player not just keen or humble enough to improve his play under the manager. We can only speculate.
One thing I do know about football is that managers see far more than we fans see when it comes to players and they pick their teams based on factors apart from pure talent displayed on the pitch. Attitude and character mean a lot to many top managers.
Having said all that, I wish Martial has his heart set on United and he is willing to bid his time and earn his shirt. But there have been too many rumours about his desire to leave over the last one year that I have become convinced he will not be at United next season.
It seems like everyday the media is gleefully reporting that another United player is unsettled. Only today Talkshite were wittering on about Rashford wanting a move. They were practically queuing up to encourage him to go.
So Rashford supposedly looking for a summer move and now Martial has rejected a contract. Can we not just establish the Chelsea loan system and if they really want more footballs either play them or put them out on loan. Would rather keep hold of both.
Although would be sort of intrigued to see how a forward line of Neymar, Martial and Mbappe functioned. Frightening would be my guess.
Although would be sort of intrigued to see how a forward line of Neymar, Martial and Mbappe functioned. Frightening would be my guess.
Martial wants to leave? Please no. Is this true ?
I bet Mourinho will replace him with Ivan Perisic.....
Agreed 100%.
Everybody is expendable and if a player decides that he is bigger than the club, it is usually better to let him go.
IMO Martial simply isn't a Jose type player. He lacks energy and his overall demeanour is stroppy, which Jose does not like.
In saying all of the above, I would like Martial to stay as I think he has a lot to offer, but I would not bend over backwards to keep any player (DDG, excepted).
...and you believe that?
Rashford, a life long MUFC fan...as 20 years of age and after getting plenty of game time, wants to leave. Does this strike you as believable?
I think it's interesting that many are ready to stake the club's future on a man who won't be here in 2 years
I think that's an incredibly rubbish system tbh. Very few loanees come back to the parent club and establish themselves.
If Martial went out on loan at a semi-big club and establishes himself, its curtains for his United career for sure.
There is a key word in the sentence. Read it again.
I can't relate to people who would entertain selling players like Martial and Rashford. Both young with a lot of potential that is not being maximised.
Agree with your first point,but disagree with the Sanchez comparison....These are 2 players at different stages of their careers...It would be better to compare him to Rashford...Sanchez must have probably been like Martial when he was 21....
I wasn’t comparing, I was saying that he should learn from Sanchez. He’s lucky to have players of that caliber playing with him at 22, something maybe Sanchez didn’t have the luxury of at that stage in his career.
The reality is, Jose is our manager right now. It’s interesting that there’s actually some posters saying they’d be quicker to get rid of the manager, than a player that’s shown only short bursts of his potential, and hasn’t improved much since his debut.
So we should continue with a fairly inept attack for a few years so we get a few years of maybe a good one? Never understood that train of thought.
It's not an inept attack. Mourinho has chopped and changed his XI every game. Even after tht 3-2 win you still can't really identify his system, style or team. Which is why we are in a situation where players might want out. Rashford scores two vs Liverpool but is on the bench vs Man City. He decided to sign Sanchez to play in a position that was already being filled by Martial/Rashford.
Sanchez's arrival saw Martial shunted to the RW when he was actually in a bit of form. Surprised he doesn't use Sanchez on the right. Also you have to factor in that Lukaku plays every single game practically. Mourinho does not want to use Rashford as a striker. Which limits opportunities.
I think Mourinho should be finding a system to get Rashford and Martial on the pitch.
Man City have a front line of 20 year old's that will get better, if we start selling young players for 28+ year olds we will end up in similar situations we blamed Fergie for.
"Fergie left us a dead strong" 'Van Gaal signed bad players"
Keeping the average age down is good business and doing otherwise is a backwards move.
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And for arguments sake lets say we do that and it gives the team more balance/more tactical options and is more successful then what the hell Im all for it. Id be more annoyed if Rashford left.
In an ideal world Martial becomes the world class player he has the potential to be and becomes undroppable but not sure I see that happening for a variety of reasons.