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Black Panther was bad, very bad.Tweet
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Surely creating a film with a majority black cast, that ignited such interest in the black community is better for the film industry as a whole (regardless of content) than casting your mates De Niro, Pacino and Pesci in yet another gangster movie.Tweet
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Of course.Surely creating a film with a majority black cast, that ignited such interest in the black community is better for the film industry as a whole (regardless of content) than casting your mates De Niro, Pacino and Pesci in yet another gangster movie.
Increased representation is a great thing. Even if it is in a shit film. Shame it wasn't in a good one.Surely creating a film with a majority black cast, that ignited such interest in the black community is better for the film industry as a whole (regardless of content) than casting your mates De Niro, Pacino and Pesci in yet another gangster movie.
Is this true ?Black Panther was bad, very bad.
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Why ? If I'm remembering correctly one of the good guys in Black Panter is member of the C.I.A. ? The idea that one of the heroes of a movie about a African country is someone from the C.I.A is insulting to everyone intelligence. Plus the 70's had blaxploitation, a whole genre of black film markers, actors and writers etc. The fact Black Panter(Its not even the first black superhero move - Blade) was celebrated for having a all majority black cast, just shows how much ground has been lost(Or well never gained).Surely creating a film with a majority black cast, that ignited such interest in the black community is better for the film industry as a whole (regardless of content) than casting your mates De Niro, Pacino and Pesci in yet another gangster movie.
It was just marketing cos the film was mediocre so they could grasp onto that fact.Is this true ?
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Would explain why some parts were awful(Also the special effects team really fecked over the movie)
Why ? If I'm remembering correctly one of the good guys in Black Panter is member of the C.I.A. ? The idea that one of the heroes of a movie about a African country is someone from the C.I.A is insulting to everyone intelligence. Plus the 70's had blaxploitation, a whole genre of black film markers, actors and writers etc. The fact Black Panter(Its not even the first black superhero move - Blade) was celebrated for having a all majority black cast, just shows how much ground has been lost(Or well never gained).
I mean there are a couple of white characters for sure but the emotional story arcs are very much focused on two black actors.Why ? If I'm remembering correctly one of the good guys in Black Panter is member of the C.I.A. ? The idea that one of the heroes of a movie about a African country is someone from the C.I.A is insulting to everyone intelligence.
They've always had a voice but I don't think they ever quite captured the general public's attention as much as they have in recent years with Black panther, get out and Straight Out of Compton. To suggest this new wave is not significant would be wrong and to say that Black panther is not a huge part of this would also be wrong.Plus the 70's had blaxploitation, a whole genre of black film markers, actors and writers etc.
Sure, with no small thanks to the likes of Scorsese and Coppola whose movies are predominantly populated by white males. But hey, the art of film making must prevail above equality.The fact Black Panter(Its not even the first black superhero move - Blade) was celebrated for having a all majority black cast, just shows how much ground has been lost(Or well never gained).
You don't think that's an artist's priority?Sure, with no small thanks to the likes of Scorsese and Coppola whose movies are predominantly populated by white males. But hey, the art of film making must prevail above equality.
Ok it was tongue in cheek. The overall point was that they are not without their merit. Scorsese and Coppola are writing them off as garbage when in fact they are representing a vast percentage of women and black people who are poorly portrayed in this artistic cinema that they are championing. Its just snobbish elitism to write off movies that have such a global and cultural impact as unequivocal trash.You don't think that's an artist's priority?
They said "unequivocal trash"?Ok it was tongue in cheek. The overall point was that they are not without their merit. Scorsese and Coppola are writing them off as garbage when in fact they are representing a vast percentage of women and black people who are poorly portrayed in this artistic cinema that they are championing. Its just snobbish elitism to write off movies that have such a global and cultural impact as unequivocal trash.
Then celebrate The Wire that was high art as well as opening up opportunities for hundreds of actors from minorities. Its not like there there aren't dozens of talented, unknown black and minority filmmakers that could use more exposure but can't because of the rubbish Hollywood machine.Ok it was tongue in cheek. The overall point was that they are not without their merit. Scorsese and Coppola are writing them off as garbage when in fact they are representing a vast percentage of women and black people who are poorly portrayed in this artistic cinema that they are championing. Its just snobbish elitism to write off movies that have such a global and cultural impact as unequivocal trash.
Ok not a direct quote but I don't think i am misrepresenting their feelings all the same.They said "unequivocal trash"?
I'm not celebrating Black Panther or saying that marvel is high art. I am just saying that its not all blockbuster CGI fests, they are doing some things that are being well received by certain audiences. I am a fan of both sides of the coin here, just find it a bit snobbish when older directors are coming out in force to knock whats popular.Then celebrate The Wire that was high art as well as opening up opportunities for hundreds of actors from minorities. Its not like there there aren't dozens of talented, unknown black and minority filmmakers that could use more exposure but can't because of the rubbish Hollywood machine.
Bad, low quality entertainment should never be celebrated just because the person making it is a nice guy or fits some desired image
I'm not suggesting they aren't significant(I think they are) and I agree you with that these movies have had more of mass appeal although thats down to million factors but still they aren't particular new, yet alone great works. Scorsese criticism for me works.They've always had a voice but I don't think they ever quite captured the general public's attention as much as they have in recent years with Black panther, get out and Straight Out of Compton. To suggest this new wave is not significant would be wrong and to say that Black panther is not a huge part of this would also be wrong.
Laurence Fishburne first movie was Apocalypse Now. That movie also featured a multi racial cast, wasn't set in America and although its not some anti imperialist slideshow, the movie doesn't give impression that Colonel Bill Kilgore really just wants to help the people of Vietnam(Which Black Panther does with the C.I.A agent).Sure, with no small thanks to the likes of Scorsese and Coppola whose movies are predominantly populated by white males. But hey, the art of film making must prevail above equality.
Yeah, or Paid in FullThen celebrate The Wire that was high art as well as opening up opportunities for hundreds of actors from minorities. Its not like there there aren't dozens of talented, unknown black and minority filmmakers that could use more exposure but can't because of the rubbish Hollywood machine.
Bad, low quality entertainment should never be celebrated just because the person making it is a nice guy or fits some desired image
I don't think you can say that, it's not a great movie but it sets up lots of stuff that ends up being important for most of the later movies. That was after all one of the biggest criticisms of the film at the time it was released.While I don't oppose these type of movies in it's entirety and I agree with Mock and others who have said that we have had formulaic genres in the past as well, I think one issue is the sheer quantity of these movies that belong to the same universe. I mean you can call Terminator or whatever as mindless blockbuster cinema etc but it would usually be 2-3 instalments and beyond that it would be purely milking the cow like in the case of Die Hard but still for MCU we have had bloody 25 odd films since Iron Man 2 and it's just too much to have content being ripped out from the same world a lot of which is interconnected as well.
If you look at all these 25 odd films and what was this whole 'project', the entire content that is actually meaningful and progresses the storylines can possibly be shown in 4-5 movies max, while the rest of it is purely repetitive garbage. e.g. you can remove Avengers 2 entirely and it wouldn't matter a bit. But the volume at which MCU has churned these films out is crazy. Black Panther did not need a whole fecking film to tell us who the character was, while wasting 90 odd minutes in completely pointless action scenes whatsoever. Same with Dr. Strange and others. I don't know if something like this has a precedent where the same universe has gone on for 25 odd films, maybe James Bond? But that is something that is really problematic because if anything is worse than more of the same in one particular genre, it is more of the same in one particular genre in the same fecking world/universe.
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He’s an absolutely masterful filmmaker, but he’s in the same group as Kubrick and Nolan, where their admirable proficiency of craft disguises the fact that you never care a jot about anyone in their films...There's seems to be hardly anyone to identify with or root for in Scorsese's films. Although a character's likeability is a cheap trick played to engage an audience, essentially, it's still a necessary component of fiction.
The rat runs past the screen at the end because Matt Damon is a rat.we need to talk more about the departed. is it good? is it bad? overrated/underrated? does anyone have any thinkpieces i can read? or maybe a guy with sunglasses and a beard filming himself in the front seat of his car talking about it and then putting it on youtube?
Damn spoilers.The rat runs past the screen at the end because Matt Damon is a rat.
It won two Oscars.
I hated it.we need to talk more about the departed. is it good? is it bad? overrated/underrated? does anyone have any thinkpieces i can read? or maybe a guy with sunglasses and a beard filming himself in the front seat of his car talking about it and then putting it on youtube?
Of sortsdo you have a beard?
A goatee is a beard.unless you have a beard i dont care about your opinion