Mason Greenwood | Please be respectful and stay on topic
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I'm sure they did... why do you assume they wouldn't have done so?
"We were provided with alternative explanations for the audio recording, which was a short excerpt from a much longer recording, and for the images posted online."
The alternative explanations will have surely come from Greenwood's girlfriend, otherwise it seems unlikely both the CPS and United would have completely believed it.
What the alternative explanations are will probably be leaked to the press as well eventually.
Amber Heard recorded Depp while trying to frame him. Just saying.
Reality is that this was always the expected outcome, the club have had to let the most talented academy player since Giggs and Scholes go whilst Greenwood has likely lost his career as I just don’t see anyone else taking him on now.
Will do. It feels like 4Chan in parts, absolute grot comments.
He shouldn't have got in the situation in the first place, and he should not have breached the terms of his bail. Yes he made mistakes.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
Social media culture and a generation that has been coddled to believe everything they say or believe is superior and no one else is entitled to an opinion.
Regardless the club said what they said.
Likely some mouth breathing idiot, sat somewhere spouting bile on 4chan."Well fecking done internet justice league. You achieved it. You must be fecking proud with yourselves. I wish you go to hell.
I can not support a club that has such fans. I hope you all go to hell."
Is this the most vile post ever on Caf? Bloody hell
That statement is bollox. See Caroline flack. The police are no indicator of guilt or lack of.
They bow to public pressure like anyone else.
Indeed. You see, another good example of the problem with trials by media - people make stuff up and it snowballs.
He was neither accused of, or charged with, rape - it was attempted rape. But people don’t seem to care for facts anymore, as soon as an emotive subject comes up (with the added potential for lots of virtue signalling) any semblance of critical thinking goes straight out of the window.
Lawyer v poster on redcafe, hmmm who would you take the opinion of?
It wouldn't, why would it.
I was making the comparison in that their bedroom personal crap should stay personal and that we "the public" don't have to know everything.
And before another one accuses me of anything,well yes, maybe the police and the judiciary system is aware of all that.
That it was something kinky and not something criminal.
Why the hell would they drop all the charges?
I mean, in the lack of knowledge, it makes sense to me.
There's a clear pattern of behaviour with him. Why are there so many apologists, when it's as clear as day that hes an absolute weapon?
And i guess her posting the audio, as well as in image of her bleeding from her mouth is all part of the role playing game?
" : “In this case a combination of the withdrawal of key witnesses and new material that came to light meant there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction. In these circumstances, we are under a duty to stop the case. '
From the horse's mouth
I don't see 'victim changed her mind; anywhere in their official statement. I see instead 2 things: 1. withdrawal of key witnesses ( no one but they have an idea who those are) 2. new material ( possibly exculpatory, which again is speculation) evidence.
Suffice to say I don't believe you have any such evidence beyond mere speculation
He’ll find a club abroad who won’t give a shit about what’s happened.
This, he sounds the least competent lawyer since Barry Zuckerkorn or William Hurt's character in Body Heat. I'd be embarrassed to put out this kind of tweet. At least the rest of the hooting twitter poster-class and commenters here acting as though MG had been cleared on a technicality and the passage of events had been proven beyond reasonable doubt (because that's what it would require for any of their statements about 'moral' duty or assertions about 'what happened' to make any sense) invariably don't have any legal training. The more worrying thing they don't even seem to have GCSE-level media analysis (or reading comp, in some cases) either...
I’m confused why you’ve quoted this. I agree I’ve made the point before. I’m saying many people reiterate things on forums. Anyway, back to the rest of the post. Strange you’d cut those parts over others. . .
He’s been branded a rapist without any evidence and many people are happy to accept this as fact and that honestly makes me uncomfortable.
I'd form an opinion on your post but I don't have the full context.
You can’t genuinely believe that! He’ll be snapped up by a top Spanish or Italian team in the next few days
If all you're going to miss is a little entertainment and amusement then why contribute so much to thread? After all...it's only entertainment!
Ooooh oooh me sir!
I always take the opinions of people in a "social media mob" who decry the other "social media mob" for being victorious!
Maybe they don't want people to know the weird stuff they do? But in all serious, no one will ever know what happened.
Didn't you know, 80% of allegations are actually false
We need to move on. I really hope the fans stay away from the media and click bait shit on twitter or whatever it's called now.
Decision has been made.
Decision has been made.
A lawyer with as much information on the actual case as you or I.
a reply with a depth of folly infinitely bigger than what I initially replied to.....
I bet if he looked good in training they'd have kept him. Boy is washed though.
Jesus reading through this thread has really shown what absolute scum we have here on the cafe. I've actually got to the point where I don't think I want to post on here any more knowing that some of ye have the opinions that you do. It's dispicable.
Had you removed lawyer in that question I would agree
This is just false.
They might have taken it too far?
I don't know, I'm not defending anyone, I was just replying to a poster saying "give me a reasonable scenario".
It's not like lovers haven't choked one another to death because of ones love of autassassinophilia.
Like i said, people do weird shit you wouldn't know.
Don't be ridiculous none of these people's opinions could possible be wrong.
So true. We had one guy saying he will never support the club now. It is laughable.
Yeah, I thought this way as well. If you found out more information that supported his evidence, then why the hell are you letting him go? Because the social media mob bullied you into it? Spineless cowards. If he did it, then he should absolutely leave; but if there was additional unseen evidence that cleared his name as they are alluding to in the press release, then they should have stood up to the cancel culture lemmings. This club's management and ownership is such a complete shitshow whichever way you want to look at it.
I know that. But look at the question...If they were to say it, then she is guilty of lying about it and the whole shitstorm would be on her head.
Whichever way you look at it, one of them (or both now) is lying. And all roads lead to him having to leave in that situation, no?
It's not yet been revealed how he'll be moved on. But Utd ideally need to sell him with an insterted hidden buyback clause/right of first refusal.
Otherwise the following will inevitably happen:
He'll get picked up by some Serie A club for peanuts.
They'll then sell him a year later to Newcastle/Chelsea/City for a multi-million profit, with zero feck's given. Him becoming a world beater at a rival club - while the press inevitably turn a blind eye because it's not Utd - would just compound the PR disaster for Utd.
Once the hysteria has died down and he's been abroad for a while, if he comes back to the PL it should be Utd doing it.