Mason Greenwood | Please be respectful and stay on topic

[Gandalf]

None of them are good enough to play there. Garnacho is the only one who comes close to Greenwood levels of production, so unless we are planning on bringing Sancho back to play on the right (a distinct possibility) then we can't rely on one goal Antony, Pellistri, Amad, or some yet unidentified academy player.

Well the issue is not whether any of them is good enough rather that Mason has already been replaced in terms of the first team squad so he does not need replacing again and therefore the cost of some new player does not need to be factored into his departure.

If we feel that the alternatives are not good enough then we sell and replace them but in that case the funds generated from those sales would presumably go towards an incoming transfer. Logically we won't be selling Antony this summer due to the massive hit we would take but it seems very probable Pellistri and quite possibly Amad would be sold and if we are lucky Sancho will have rebuilt his reputation to the point where he can be moved on too. Those deals should generate a decent amount and if Sancho does go we will be shedding a huge amount from the wage bill.

Greenwood can in this case be looked at purely as an asset that has already been written off and replaced and so any fee at this point is pure profit to the club.

 

[justsomebloke]

Well the issue is not whether any of them is good enough rather that Mason has already been replaced in terms of the first team squad so he does not need replacing again and therefore the cost of some new player does not need to be factored into his departure.

If we feel that the alternatives are not good enough then we sell and replace them but in that case the funds generated from those sales would presumably go towards an incoming transfer. Logically we won't be selling Antony this summer due to the massive hit we would take but it seems very probable Pellistri and quite possibly Amad would be sold and if we are lucky Sancho will have rebuilt his reputation to the point where he can be moved on too. Those deals should generate a decent amount and if Sancho does go we will be shedding a huge amount from the wage bill.

Greenwood can in this case be looked at purely as an asset that has already been written off and replaced and so any fee at this point is pure profit to the club.

Okay. If you need it fed to you with a small spoon: No, he does not need to be replaced. But he can effectively replace someone else who has to be replaced (Martial). Which comes down to the same fecking thing.

 

[Gandalf]

Okay. If you need it fed to you with a small spoon: No, he does not need to be replaced. But he can effectively replace someone else who has to be replaced (Martial). Which comes down to the same fecking thing.

So the bolded was uncalled for.

Won't stoop to your level but for the record he is not coming back, never going to happen and so you need to make your peace with that.

 

[Lash]

You need to consider one thing though: If he's brought back, he effectively replaces Martial. If he isn't, then we are going to have to sign someone else to do that. If you sell him for maybe 25m, that's a roughly 30m FFP gain (factoring in wages saved). That's not likely to outweigh the FFP cost we'll incur from signing a striker.

In my opinion, he doesn't though. Martial is a CF in the squad currently and Greenwood hardly ever plays that role. He's a wide forward (Martial in his youth if you will).

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

Playing a great game, ruined by the team not being at his level..

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

Instantly misses his penalty

 

[flameinthesun]

Instantly misses his penalty

Bit of a shame as he's had a very good game. Pretty much carries the attack and creative responsibilities on his back in this team. Getafe have a lot of fight but my god are they lacking in the technical department.

 

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[van Nistelrooy]

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He simply has to be sold.

The club needs a clean slate this summer and not another season of talking about whether he can be reintegrated into the squad. It doesn't matter if it's another season or five. Greenwood will never be acceptable back at this club.

 

[Bastian]

Can someone explain, if the club consider another loan with him going into his last year of contract, is the club then looking to sign him to a longer deal before or what?

 

[Leftback99]

He simply has to be sold.

The club needs a clean slate this summer and not another season of talking about whether he can be reintegrated into the squad. It doesn't matter if it's another season or five. Greenwood will never be acceptable back at this club.

This. Take the best offer we can get.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Yeah don’t fecking loan him

Getafe are taking the piss

He’s a £60m talent, and that’s still a steal for his talent

Sell and replace with the funds. A loan does absolutely nothing for us

 

[Yakuza_devils]

Another loan? Either we bring him back or sell. No more loans. Surely, some bigger Spanish/Italian clubs who can afford to pay higher transfer fees might be interested, if not then our hands are tight and may need to agree to Getafe loan deal again.

 

[Widow]

We really could do with the cash from a straight sale

 

[Yakuza_devils]

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40099595/greenwood-return-man-united-next-season-getafe-chief

He is not coming back

 

[Wibble]

He’s a £60m talent, and that’s still a steal for his talent

Was a couple of years ago. Anywhere near that and United will leap at it. I'd guess they would leap at far less especially if there are sell on clauses included.

 

[Balljy]

It's clear we won't take him back according to the Getafe president. We'll be a bit annoyed that this got out as we'll be desperate to sell and would want to maximise the cash.

Mason Greenwood: Getafe hope to keep Manchester United forward - BBC Sport

 

[SilentWitness]

It's clear we won't take him back according to the Getafe president. We'll be a bit annoyed that this got out as we'll be desperate to sell and would want to maximise the cash.

Mason Greenwood: Getafe hope to keep Manchester United forward - BBC Sport

Meanwhile they're leaking it to get a cut price deal.

 

[DRJosh]

If we get 35 mil for him we should take it. This won’t be an easy sale for many reasons

 

[Balljy]

Meanwhile they're leaking it to get a cut price deal.

Yeah, true. We'd be reliant on a bigger club being actively interested anyway so probably would have put him on the open market eventually.

 

[Gandalf]

If we cannot sell him this summer we should agree a mutual termination of his contract. It has to be ended now for the good of all involved.

 

[RaddyRed]

I expect Getafe wouldn't be able to afford him and we won't want another loan. Be interesting to see if he comes back to United training in July if a deal hasn't been agreed, or whether he will be told to stay away until a deal is agreed elsewhere (I suspect the latter).

 

[Lash]

If we cannot sell him this summer we should agree a mutual termination of his contract. It has to be ended now for the good of all involved.

We'll obviously sell him, it's a question of how much. It's been reported we'll be extending his deal to 2026, I doubt we have any interest in letting him leave for free.

 

[Raoul]

If we cannot sell him this summer we should agree a mutual termination of his contract. It has to be ended now for the good of all involved.

The least likeliest of all plausible scenarios as the club aren't going to piss away a transfer free at a time when our own inbound transfer budget is limited.

 

[Leftback99]

Yeah don’t fecking loan him

Getafe are taking the piss

He’s a £60m talent, and that’s still a steal for his talent

Sell and replace with the funds. A loan does absolutely nothing for us

He's not, because no one would be willing to pay even a third of that.

Getafe are our best hope and they are skint.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

If we cannot sell him this summer we should agree a mutual termination of his contract. It has to be ended now for the good of all involved.

We need money especially from academy players because of FFP!

 

[adexkola]

The least likeliest of all plausible scenarios as the club aren't going to piss away a transfer free at a time when our own inbound transfer budget is limited.

The most moral though.

We really can't complain though. You can't expect fair value for an asset you have ostracized.

 

[cafecillos]

Yeah don’t fecking loan him

Getafe are taking the piss

He’s a £60m talent, and that’s still a steal for his talent

Sell and replace with the funds. A loan does absolutely nothing for us

He may be a £60m talent, but there won't be a £60m transfer.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

Realistically I think the fees will be about 20M, give and take.

 

[Wibble]

If we get 35 mil for him we should take it. This won’t be an easy sale for many reasons

Well one reason really.

 

[golden_blunder]

The most moral though.

We really can't complain though. You can't expect fair value for an asset you have ostracized.

United have done? He brought in on himself

 

[Moriarty]

Getafe are our best hope and they are skint.

They could always rob a few banks. Worked for the OAS back in the day.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

Meanwhile they're leaking it to get a cut price deal.

Well played by Gatafe President

 

[mu4c_20le]

He may be a £60m talent, but there won't be a £60m transfer.

Not this year, but we could easily play him back into one.

 

[Lash]

The most moral though.

We really can't complain though. You can't expect fair value for an asset you have ostracized.

the irony is not lost.

Well played by Gatafe President

Not really. He's fecked up any chance of us sending players there in the future operating like this and it's probably not done anything to help him get Greenwood.

 

[adexkola]

United have done? He brought in on himself

He did what he did. We chose to ostracize him. Argue the rights and wrongs of that (that's none of my business nowadays) but strictly financially, expecting fair value subsequent to making it clear he is not desired at the club again, is stupid and playing both sides. If we didn't care about financial return at all, we would have paid out his contract and released him, feck the impact to the balance sheet and FFP. We obviously care about the finances, but also about morals, so are stuck in this dumb middle ground.

Either kick him out or do everything possible to de-stench him before the sale to the next dummy. This isn't rocket science

 

[PSV]

Not this year, but we could easily play him back into one.

If we play him back into one why on earth would we sell?

 

[Bwuk]

Apparently two premier league clubs after him.

I imagine one is Arsenal, who clearly don’t care about this sort of thing being an issue based off the starting 11s they’ve had out recently.

Wonder who else?

 

[Lash]

Apparently two premier league clubs after him.

I imagine one is Arsenal, who clearly don’t care about this sort of thing being an issue based off the starting 11s they’ve had out recently.

Wonder who else?

Newcastle, they don't care about bad press.

 

[Maurice Setters Training]

Can someone explain, if the club consider another loan with him going into his last year of contract, is the club then looking to sign him to a longer deal before or what?

We have a +1 year option.

Still not sure that a loan is a good financial option for us.