Matheus Cunha | Official | signed the first day of the window

[DWelbz19]

He’s a good player. Bit positionally ambiguous so I’m not convinced he has an actual position when Amorim’s gone, though.

 

[Woziak]

That is not a 40M net cost though. We still owe money on Hojlund, Antony and Sancho as they were purchased on instalments and so the net would be closer to 140M and that is before we get into the fact that raising 135M in combined fees for those 4 at this point is practically science fiction.

And we would be buying the new players on instalments too, there’s no way we would pay more than £60-70m this summer and the rest would be paid over three years, instalments, work both ways plush Rashford is pure profit just like Greenwood and Mctominay that were both sold after June 30th 2024 so they go into this years accounts.

 

[jderbyshire]

As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, he is massively outperforming his Xg (he's scored double his Xg in fact) which is probably unsustainable.

He's slightly underperforming his expected assists though, which is welcome in a team desperate for creativity.

I hope he will do well here but to be honest after the last few years I find it difficult to get excited about any transfer. Even if it was Osimhen, I think I would still be expecting to be letdown eventually.

 

[CallyRed]

Would be lovely to get early business done

I really really hope we don’t do what we’ve done the last 5+ summers though and overcomplicate things for ourselves. We need a striker. A goalscoring striker.

We'll rate our transfer business A+ come August, then the season starts.
Rinse and repeat.

 

[Mcking]

He is too much of a moments player for my liking. Scores the occasional banger and wins a lot of free kicks, but he drifts through games too much, and gets frustrated easily.

 

[Gandalf]

And we would be buying the new players on instalments too, there’s no way we would pay more than £60-70m this summer and the rest would be paid over three years, instalments, work both ways plush Rashford is pure profit just like Greenwood and Mctominay that were both sold after June 30th 2024 so they go into this years accounts.

Not arguing the instalments, just the idea that somehow we come out at net 40M from the scenario given. I sincerely doubt we sell Hojlund or Antony this summer anyway and we are going to struggle to get much for Rashford. If we did get someone to pay 40M for Rashford it would almost certainly be based on us handing a big chunk of that to Marcus as a payoff for the much lower wage he would be forced to take at his new club. Marcus might be a local boy who loves the club but he is also never going to leave money on the table to facilitate a move and so if Villa will only offer him 150K a week we will be on the hook for the difference or we can just welcome him back to the squad.

 

[Trex]

After the first game he played against us this season doing the exact thing Amorim wants from that LAM. I just knew we had to go for him. You could see Amorim talking to him after full time then.

 

[Tarrou]

we're getting like barca these days it seems

perpetually skint and moaning about it but still manage to fork out loads of dosh for signings every summer

its almost as if they're doing it deliberately, and to be fair as a strategy it would make sense.. kind of the opposite of the Woody approach of saying we're minted

 

[2 man midfield]

Weird how he suddenly took off after coming to the PL. Flopped big time in la liga.

 

[Andy_Cole]

As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, he is massively outperforming his Xg (he's scored double his Xg in fact) which is probably unsustainable.

He's slightly underperforming his expected assists though, which is welcome in a team desperate for creativity.

I hope he will do well here but to be honest after the last few years I find it difficult to get excited about any transfer. Even if it was Osimhen, I think I would still be expecting to be letdown eventually.

I think top players tend to do this no? Means they score when the ‘goal scoring chance’ is low.

 

[pcaming]

Think this is another mistake honestly. He needs to step up massively to be worth that fee.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

We'll rate our transfer business A+ come August, then the season starts.
Rinse and repeat.

Well that’s the thing for me. I haven’t been.

Not that you’ll be bothered to, and I don’t blame you, but I warned this on here last summer that our transfer business was effectively nullified by not getting a striker

But this happens every summer. It baffles me. We might get a couple of forwards, neither with any goalscoring pedigree, and then scratch our heads in September when it’s shite again

Simply getting a striker who can score goals will make a significant difference. It’s simple. Our club has to always overthink and overcomplicate a simple fix

 

[dubplate warrior]

Well that’s the thing for me. I haven’t been.

Not that you’ll be bothered to, and I don’t blame you, but I warned this on here last summer that our transfer business was effectively nullified by not getting a striker

But this happens every summer. It baffles me. We might get a couple of forwards, neither with any goalscoring pedigree, and then scratch our heads in September when it’s shite again

Simply getting a striker who can score goals will make a significant difference. It’s simple. Our club has to always overthink and overcomplicate a simple fix

Oh we badly need a striker, but how would you feel about this transfer + a striker?

 

[lex talionis]

Nothing to do with him having played for ETH, and ETH’s preferences for former players?

ETH did have a preference for former players, but the hype machine over Onana was bonkers (I almost typed boners) after his performance v City.

 

[Bojan11]

Well that’s the thing for me. I haven’t been.

Not that you’ll be bothered to, and I don’t blame you, but I warned this on here last summer that our transfer business was effectively nullified by not getting a striker

But this happens every summer. It baffles me. We might get a couple of forwards, neither with any goalscoring pedigree, and then scratch our heads in September when it’s shite again

Simply getting a striker who can score goals will make a significant difference. It’s simple. Our club has to always overthink and overcomplicate a simple fix

It’s not that easy though. Or Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal etc would have solved it too. The striker market is dead. So teams get players in from other positions to score too.

We need goal threats from everywhere not just striker. Bruno is the only one at the moment who is capable of scoring 10 plus league goals a season, which is embarrassing for us.

 

[Cassidy]

Well that’s the thing for me. I haven’t been.

Not that you’ll be bothered to, and I don’t blame you, but I warned this on here last summer that our transfer business was effectively nullified by not getting a striker

But this happens every summer. It baffles me. We might get a couple of forwards, neither with any goalscoring pedigree, and then scratch our heads in September when it’s shite again

Simply getting a striker who can score goals will make a significant difference. It’s simple. Our club has to always overthink and overcomplicate a simple fix

I think its safe to say we’ll sign at least 1 striker this summer. We need more than just a striker though I am sure you can agree. We need a whole new attacking line up, striker, 10, CM (who can score) and an attacking wing back

 

[Lash]

As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, he is massively outperforming his Xg (he's scored double his Xg in fact) which is probably unsustainable.

He's slightly underperforming his expected assists though, which is welcome in a team desperate for creativity.

I hope he will do well here but to be honest after the last few years I find it difficult to get excited about any transfer. Even if it was Osimhen, I think I would still be expecting to be letdown eventually.

I think if we're playing him as one of the 10s, his role will be creating opportunities - for others and himself. He seems to do that in spades for his current team.

I would hope he could hit 20~ g+a, however that's cut, that would improve us massively.

 

[Cassidy]

Well that’s the thing for me. I haven’t been.

Not that you’ll be bothered to, and I don’t blame you, but I warned this on here last summer that our transfer business was effectively nullified by not getting a striker

But this happens every summer. It baffles me. We might get a couple of forwards, neither with any goalscoring pedigree, and then scratch our heads in September when it’s shite again

Simply getting a striker who can score goals will make a significant difference. It’s simple. Our club has to always overthink and overcomplicate a simple fix

Also we did sign a striker last summer and the summer before. They were just shite

 

[DWelbz19]

We'll rate our transfer business A+ come August, then the season starts.
Rinse and repeat.

Pretty much. And like almost every major transfer window we won’t sign a proper ball playing central midfielder either.

 

[AaronRedDevil]

I have a bad feeling about this transfer. Surely you can get someone better at AM for way less.

 

[Cassidy]

I quite like him but I am not sure I like him at 62.5m

Saying that double figure league goals in the last 2 PL seasons playing for Wolves and not as the main CF is not to be sniffed at.

 

[RonaldoVII]

Definitely isn't worth £62m or close to it.

 

[rajds89]

I have a bad feeling about this transfer. Surely you can get someone better at AM for way less.

Name a premier league proven AM who we can get for cheaper..

 

[pcaming]

I have a bad feeling about this transfer. Surely you can get someone better at AM for way less.

To me he's mainly athleticism, which is fine attribute, but we need more refined players to get back up. Especially since we usually have less space to run into than Wolves.

His goals are mostly wonder strikes, whereas we need more box presence. His dribbles are decent, but nothing outstanding.

If he's our marquee signing, I would be very worried for next season.

 

[AaronRedDevil]

Name a premier league proven AM who we can get for cheaper..

Not my job but there should be plenty of good AMs in different leagues. Doesn't need to be PL proven. Maybe Cherki? But he's someone I think will grow to a very effective player.

 

[Cassidy]

we're getting like barca these days it seems

perpetually skint and moaning about it but still manage to fork out loads of dosh for signings every summer

its almost as if they're doing it deliberately, and to be fair as a strategy it would make sense.. kind of the opposite of the Woody approach of saying we're minted

Indeed I like it, if we can add identifying good players to sign we’re off to the races

 

[dinostar77]

 

[Adtshepherd]

I have always liked cunha even when we were linked with him a lot at am. He is still young too and can drive the ball which in my opinion is something we really really lack especially with amad out the team.
I love Bruno but he doesn't drive forward, rasmus showed some signs of it last season but always been sceptical of him as a player. And garnacho actually isn't great at dribbling.

We have been at our best when rashford has been in form as he could drive forward.

 

[lysglimt]

Cunha is actually very quick.

Yes and no - he is quick with the ball at his feet - but is he a player who is quick enough to counter ? No because that is not the kind of player he is....and it would worry me if our attacking 3 would be Bruno, Cunha and another striker. Bruno and Cunha are much better with the ball at their feet, I want at least one speeddemon in our team that can stretch teams - Bruno and Cunha cant

 

[dubplate warrior]

Not my job but there should be plenty of good AMs in different leagues. Doesn't need to be PL proven. Maybe Cherki? But he's someone I think will grow to a very effective player.

We need to sign some players who can do it in the prem in my opinion.

 

[croadyman]

Oh we badly need a striker, but how would you feel about this transfer + a striker?

More confident if that striker was proven whereas strongest links are to Delap who doesn't score enough for a Utd number 9.

 

[Andycoleno9]

I don't mind Cunha because he would add a lot in our game but i am little worried about how it will affect our striker search. No10 should be way down in priority.

If we have money for both then great.

 

[Redstain]

Release clause could just mean United pay beneath the amount serving as more of a barometer.

Either way it's a good prospective move. Followed Cunha in the Bundesliga many years ago he was thoroughly impressive. Left 10 sorted with him and Mainoo. Bring in Delap and suddenly the club have two players who can impose themselves physically and shove defences out the way.

I'd take Cherki for the 20 million euros and that's 100 million across three players in the attacking positions. Rashford, Sancho and Antony out gives some leeway over NET spend.

 

[Drifter]

What I like about him is he is not selfish

 

[Woodzy]

Cunha believe it?

 

[croadyman]

Cunha believe it?

That's very clever

 

[Andycoleno9]

Release clause could just mean United pay beneath the amount serving as more of a barometer.

Either way it's a good prospective move. Followed Cunha in the Bundesliga many years ago he was thoroughly impressive. Left 10 sorted with him and Mainoo. Bring in Delap and suddenly the club have two players who can impose themselves physically and shove defences out the way.

I'd take Cherki for the 20 million euros and that's 100 million across three players in the attacking positions. Rashford, Sancho and Antony out gives some leeway over NET spend.

Delap as first choice would be huge mistake (which we keep doing 4 seasons in a row now). We need proven and complete leading striker like Osimhen and Gyokeres. Delap is another Hojlund type of transfer. Young prospect with his first good sesson in pro football.

Buying Delap as backup for Osimhen or Gyokeres is another story. That would be awesome.

 

[croadyman]

I don't mind Cunha because he would add a lot in our game but i am little worried about how it will affect our striker search. No10 should be way down in priority.

If we have money for both then great.

Yeah I share that concern as well

 

[V.O.]

I don't mind Cunha because he would add a lot in our game but i am little worried about how it will affect our striker search. No10 should be way down in priority.

If we have money for both then great.

Having someone in that position who a) makes the right decision with the ball in the final third and b) can actually shoot is very, very high in my priority list after watching two full seasons of Garnacho.

 

[croadyman]

Delap as first choice would be huge mistake (which we keep doing 4 seasons in a row now). We need proven and complete leading striker like Osimhen and Gyokeres. Delap is another Hojlund type of transfer. Young prospect with his first good sesson in pro football.

Buying Delap as backup for Osimhen or Gyokeres is another story. That would be awesome.

Like people have already said in the Delap thread he's not going somewhere to be a backup. I do agree that we should be all in for one of those not praying on a prospect like we did with Hojlund.