Since the loan window has opened,I would loan out Harrop and Weir and make Willock the main figure on midfield to see how he'll handle the increased responsibility.Thought he was really impressive against Norwich, tenacious, tidy on the ball with great close control and distributes the ball very well. Seems a perfect fit for Van Gaal's system to be honest. He's stood out in midfield in the recent games that I watched, hope he keeps building on that.
Sounds like a good plan. Redmond has also impressed me in recent months, what do you think of his prospects?Since the loan window has opened,I would loan out Harrop and Weir and make Willock the main figure on midfield to see how he'll handle the increased responsibility.
There are many midfielders in the rank that I rate higher than Redmond but he's tidy,distribute the ball well and improved massively under Joyce (I did predict that last year ).He covers the ground very well I must say and that's the attribute that will benefit him greatly when he steps up to senior football.Redmond's one of the proof that the coaches actually know a lot better than us since he looks pretty average in the U18s on most occasions but was rated by the coaches judging on how he was played ahead of some other players like Mitchell or Riley on his first year.As most of the graduates it's unlikely that he'll make it at United but he's one of those that you can't write off just yet.Sounds like a good plan. Redmond has also impressed me in recent months, what do you think of his prospects?
Could be a late developer like Lingard..There are many midfielders in the rank that I rate higher than Redmond but he's tidy,distribute the ball well and improved massively under Joyce (I did predict that last year ).He covers the ground very well I must say and that's the attribute that will benefit him greatly when he steps up to senior football.Redmond's one of the proof that the coaches actually know a lot better than us since he looks pretty average in the U18s on most occasions but was rated by the coaches judging on how he was played ahead of some other players like Mitchell or Riley on his first year.As most of the graduates it's unlikely that he'll make it at United but he's one of those that you can't write off just yet.
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Don't know if we were trying to lure him here as he seems happy at Arsenal, but Chris Willock is very highly rated indeed. Even played for the first team last week against Forest.Very impressive bit of skill. Isn't Willock the guy with a better, younger brother whom we were trying to lure from Arsenal a while back? Obviously that didn't work out.
Not sure if we signed Matty to lure his brother but yeah, his brother is very special! Amazing little player, watched him last season live and he was few classes above everyone else on the pitch. Cant wait to see him in the first team even though he is at Arsenal.Very impressive bit of skill. Isn't Willock the guy with a better, younger brother whom we were trying to lure from Arsenal a while back? Obviously that didn't work out.
He hasn't progressed as much as hoped in the last few seasons though. Not entirely sure if he can make it at Arsenal. They have some other very good attacking prospects.Not sure if we signed Matty to lure his brother but yeah, his brother is very special! Amazing little player, watched him last season live and he was few classes above everyone else on the pitch. Cant wait to see him in the first team even though he is at Arsenal.
Cant say that i follow Arsenal youth closely but from what i saw he is on the right track. Played preseason with the first team and also got some minutes in cup game week ago.He hasn't progressed as much as hoped in the last few seasons though. Not entirely sure if he can make it at Arsenal. They have some other very good attacking prospects.
From what I've heard he wasn't exactly playing that well for the U23s recently and they have Jeff and Nelson (Nelson is Gomes's age group but already played for their U23s since last season) who are rated highly as well not to mention the likes of Smith-Rowe or Coyle who are younger. Arsenal has a tendency to give cameos to promising youth players quite early but most of them weren't progressed as hoped (Akpom,Gnabry,Zelalem,...)Cant say that i follow Arsenal youth closely but from what i saw he is on the right track. Played preseason with the first team and also got some minutes in cup game week ago.
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Willock is more suited physically. He has Pogba-esque qualities; he can really drive forward when in the mood.@khoazany is Harrop injured? Amazed that Willock is ahead of him in the pecking order....saying that, would be great if we had a comfortable lead late on so kid can play a little bit.
Willock has always been ahead of Harrop in the pecking order since last season. Has trained more with the 1st team and was on bench for our first pre-season game against Wigan. As I said in other thread Harrop's development has stalled in the last 2 seasons.@khoazany is Harrop injured? Amazed that Willock is ahead of him in the pecking order....saying that, would be great if we had a comfortable lead late on so kid can play a little bit.
I agree with limerick, even a stalled Harrop is easily a better player then Willock....Willock has always been ahead of Harrop in the pecking order since last season. Has trained more with the 1st team and was on bench for our first pre-season game against Wigan. As I said in other thread Harrop's development has stalled in the last 2 seasons.
Comfortable lead! Have you watched us in the league at home this season?@khoazany is Harrop injured? Amazed that Willock is ahead of him in the pecking order....saying that, would be great if we had a comfortable lead late on so kid can play a little bit.
Not as a central midfielder he's not. Not sure Harrop has the temperament to step up either, and as has already been mentioned Willock is more physically development although that's obviously not everything but against a side like West Brom it would definitely be a factor.Even with stalled development Harrop is still easily better than
Willock. Just a shame we don't have an actual talent in the group to call up.
not sure if i should laugh or cry to be honestComfortable lead! Have you watched us in the league at home this season?
I've been up 6 times this year, and seen us win once! That is horrendous!not sure if i should laugh or cry to be honest
Yea not as a centr mid but Blind is also miles better there so id rather have a better attacking option on the bench. I don't really see anything great about Willocks physicality either, sure it might be better than Harrops but hardly great or should be compared to Pogba like I saw before.Not as a central midfielder he's not. Not sure Harrop has the temperament to step up either, and as has already been mentioned Willock is more physically development although that's obviously not everything but against a side like West Brom it would definitely be a factor.
Harrop has never really looked anywhere close to the first team so I would've been very surprised to see him involved. He needs to get himself a move in the summer and kickstart his career.
now at least we know where is the problem!I've been up 6 times this year, and seen us win once! That is horrendous!
I'll test it with 3 home games over Aprilnow at least we know where is the problem!
Don't want to appear to be cocky or anything but from what I've heard about Harrop's attitude I'm certain Willock will turn out to be a better player than him.I agree with limerick, even a stalled Harrop is easily a better player then Willock....
As for his development, it didnt help that he had to play in worst U23 side in last 10 years probably. More often then not he was the only creative force in the team and not only that, he also didnt have a striker for most of the time.
even if attitude wasnt an issue id agree with you, specially as there is no chance of Harrop going abroad so in england players like Harrop, Rothwell etc. are destined to fail which is a shame.Don't want to appear to be cocky or anything but from what I've heard about Harrop's attitude I'm certain Willock will turn out to be a better player than him.
Nobody is talking about spain, i think its safe to say that england players prefer the safety and comfort of playing at home rather then going into unknown. How many england players we see abroad? Very little, its probably the smallest percentage of all major football nations.By the way @Šjor Bepo , what do you mean about there being no chance of them going abroad? Like how most English talent prefer to play at a lower English team than a Spanish team that's better due to wanting to stay in England?
I thought that was what you meant and completely agree. I just used Spain as an example as, for whatever reason, they were the country that came to mind! Probably because of Pereira.Nobody is talking about spain, i think its safe to say that england players prefer the safety and comfort of playing at home rather then going into unknown. How many england players we see abroad? Very little, its probably the smallest percentage of all major football nations.
Holland and Belgium would be a perfect place to start for those players, they would be appreciated for their footballing brain and technique and with similar players around they could shine. Luke Giverin was player of the year in belgium second division while at Antwerpen, if a player like him can dominate the second division there is no doubt that far superior players like Rothwell and Harrop would be able to play at decent level in first divisions.