Poch was available for literally a year and nothing and now this. I honestly believe I can do a better job than most football people at the club.
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Why do people think there is only one manager suitable for the role ? There’s massive problems if any decent manager can’t get a tune out this squad.
People saying it’s either so and so or bust are blinkered.
People saying it’s either so and so or bust are blinkered.
What football people?
Poor argument. As poor as Pochs trophy cabinet
What about last season then? And at Spurs, he didn't win much did he? So he's overhyped a lot and we don't need another manager who's either past it or does not know how to win
PSG would not want to look like a small team that is loosing its coach to a bigger team midseason. The image of the team is very important for their owners. Thats why they refused a 200 million euros offer for Mbappe from Real Madrid this summer only to lose him on a free a year later.. i highly doubt they will let Pochettino go now..
funniest quote I've readWhy would we pay for a manager that will be sacked anyways? Only United would pay a hefty sum in such a situation
Didn’t Klopp “bottle” 6 finals in row, before eventually winning one years later with Liverpool.
I think PSG would have no issue if Zidane was willing to join them. But your point seems correct, unless Pochettino throws a tantrum publicly I would be surprised to see PSG roll over and let him go while they get Valverde.
I'd agree if Zidane wasn't on the wings unemployed. PSG cover many faults with the appointment of Zidane. It also gives Mbappe the opportunity to work alongside him which could translate into his desire to leave who knows. Solskjaer out Poch in, Poch out Zidane in is good business for all clubs involved.
To be fair Klopp is still a bottler and scouse on top of that.
Made me laugh out loud to be fair. I imagined him winking suggestively as he said it too...
Escobar was one of the fans that supported Ole earlier on. He doesn't really have that much knowledge about football, as he was wrong then and about many things. It is laughable to think that poch somehow bottled things at spurs when spurs objective was mostly to make them competitive and stay in europa league or get into top four. It is best to ignore him. Moreover at psg Poch did better than tuchel, so it was more so that tuchel bottled the league than Poch.
Christ, could Poch be anymore obvious?
They're as clueless as any fans. The problem is their collection of mercenary players that only went there for the money, not to work hard.
I mean, do they not wonder how Tuchel has such an impact at Chelsea, winning them the CL? Chelsea don't have these star names like Neymar and Mbappe etc. Just idiots.
Absolutely not. He can't wait to get out of that club man.Christ, could Poch be anymore obvious?
On ETH- I remember a few years ago when people were going on about Frank De Boer. People need to realize that's its still Ajax in the Dutch league.Not saying he may not be goof, but he hasn't proven anything more that Pochettino
I'm not sure what you mean by that but a 30 goal a season striker is a huge outlier and you'd be mad not to consider the context of it when looking to hire Poch
It isn't binary and there is credit due for developing Kane, getting the best out of him and loads of other good things. But without Kane I don't think they ever threaten a title challenge under Poch.
Watching the game. Not really much to the argument he's bottled it - if you think that, fair enough but I don't really see how it makes sense.
You know he won the league twice with BVB at least and was on the up as a manager. Unlike Poch
We’re Spurs top at any point?
I assume, when you say these things, you forget that it's on the internet, where these statements are easily fact-checked?
You seemed to be saying you don't rate Poch because he had Kane (who you described as a 30 goal striker) which kind of ignores the fact Poch had a big hand in developing him into what he is. Look at Spurs since he left...that's with heavy spending as well.
Once, briefly, for the second game of his tenure in 2014/15.
Never again under Poch. Mourinho and Nuno were top longer I believe.
I meant specifically when they were supposed to have bottled the league. I remember Leicester having a comfortable lead most of the time but not sure if I remembered it correctly.
Poch is the most overrtated manger today. Untied will be back discussing the sacking of the manager in one year time.
Yeah true I don't think what he did at Spurs was that special
A good job no doubt, but it doesn't leave me thinking he definitely has what it takes to manage Manchester United
If PSG are happy to let him go after less than a year in charge it doesn't fill me with confidence either
But saying that, I'm still hopeful he'll come in and be great and I think he's an upgrade for sure. But for me, it isn't a slam-dunk hire but then no one is at the moment really.
The fact this thread isn't named poch watch is really annoying
Does that not confirm what he said?I assume, when you say these things, you forget that it's on the internet, where these statements are easily fact-checked?
I think it was very impressive when I think of how I rated the players there before he came versus when he left - I don't know if he's the perfect choice but he's the best option right now and would probably be the first manager post SAF we have hired who is not some washed up version of former glories or someone without the relevant experience.
Suppose it depends on your definition.
In March (MW26) we were 2 points behind Leicester.
https://www.premierleague.com/match/12374
(MW28), could have gone top on GD, but lost to West Ham
https://www.premierleague.com/match/12392
Spent a lot of the 3rd third of the season in 2nd, 5 points off Leicester, then from Matchweek 35:
Drew with WBA https://www.premierleague.com/match/12460
Drew with Chelsea that finished 10th https://www.premierleague.com/match/12470
Lost to Southampton https://www.premierleague.com/match/12480
Got thumped 5-1 by relegated Newcastle https://www.premierleague.com/match/12488
Finished 3rd, 11 points behind Leicester.
Last 10 games were 16 out of a possible 30.
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No - he said "Poch did better than tuchel, so it was more so that tuchel bottled the league than Poch"
Tuchel drew two and lost 4. Poch drew two and lost four.
Crucially, Lille won the league by a single point - Poch lost 3 points to Lille (which Tuchel didn't), which is essentially the crucial bottle factor. If he had at least drew with Lille (like Tuchel), he'd have won the league.
Whilst the percentages work better over more games, it was the games which Poch lost that were worse.
yeah that's a good point, he built a good squad and improved players for sure
if he could have a similar impact on our squad from here we'll be in good shape
I think I just worry if he has that elite mentality more than anything, he always feels a bit passive.. but I guess we'll find out soon enough
You can't have the same expectations of a manager coming in mid season than a manager that has been there for a few season. Even with that, poch still had a higher win percentage then tuchel with 15 win compared to his 11. So poch did do better and if tuchel had more games, he may have loss some more based on how he was playing. Poch was always chasing and for a manager that has just got the job mid season, he can't be judge based on that. Tuchel was definitely more responsible for bottling the league. And as you can see now, poch is doing better this season with psg than tuchel did in that season.
Sorry mate, posish has been filled
That argument goes both ways. Win any of the games Tuchel drew, and they're champions. The Lille match didn't matter in that regard if the difference was one point.
Quite rightly too. 10 year deal for Carrick.
The Lorient and Nantes loss under Poch is the key to losing out the title.I assume, when you say these things, you forget that it's on the internet, where these statements are easily fact-checked?
Judging on ppg stats would ignore other context of the season. Tuchel 2 defeats early in the season with almost no pre season, and COVID outbreak is forgivable. The rest of his bad result was against more competitive teams. Drawing one of Lorient and Nantes games would see PSG winning the title last season, but they "bottled" by losing not one but both.
You're not having the job, Wayne.
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