He's lost less games than Poch has since September and Poch only been there since December. And our league has actually got some good sides in it.
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Walking into a PSG side who were not top of the league, with plenty of injuries and lack of quality in some areas (midfield), I don't know if Ole would have them top right now and still in the UCL
Do you watch lique 1? Genuine question. Because you seem to be speaking as someone who has no clue how the season was for PSG before Poch even arrived at the club
Its you who isn't getting it since I never said anything about getting rid of Ole. The post I quoted you made some statements about Poch at PSG which were knee jerk and I called it out
You do realise United are 2nd with a shitty united team right?
And your point is? Again I refer you to the comment I made previously, do any of you even watch the french league to be making such comments?You do realise United are 2nd with a shitty united team right?
We are 17 points behind the only good side in the league this season
Third last year was getting the best out of the squad he has. Second this year is getting the best out of the squad he has. Of course he’d fecking win the league with PSG. He keeps players happy and motivated - that’s his biggest strength - and that would be more than enough to win leagues when you have the best squad as PSG do in France. The “Ole is totally useless and wouldn’t do a job anywhere else” narrative as he continues to do an acceptable job here is starting to get tedious. Actually no...it got tedious several months ago.
Nothing knee jerk about my comments. I rate Poch as a manager. I just don't rate him as high as some of you lot. I don't think he'd achieve a lot more than Ole has tbh.
Are we going to win the league next season if we had Poch? Not for me.
Do you lot actually understand the situation we are in. We have terrible owners, a shocking CEO and we are up against one of the greatest coaches of all time with a Sheikh at his shoulder.
Poch hasn't shown anything to suggest he's the man to bring back the title. Not yet. Maybe one day he will.
Not this year clearly
Who said Ole wouldn't do a job elsehwhere? You don't know what you are talking about if you believe any half decent manager could just walk into PSG mid season this year and run away with the league. Better to comment on leagues and competitions you actually follow
I don't rate him that high, I am simply saying 3 months into a job is not enough to write off a manager, one that has actually also won a trophy in that time and still has a realistic chance to win more. Its knee jerk
Of course i do, its my favourite league to bet on alongside Bundesliga.
Utd has a lack of quality in a lot of areas, we have a striker and right side who cant score and our best midfielder is either injured or unmotivated to play.
I just cant see why Ole would do worse with a better side against weaker opposition. If we win our next 2 we will have exactly the same amount of points in the same amount of games as they do.
When you hire a manager who fell off so badly in the league with Spurs then why are we surprised that PSG struggle in the league with him in charge?
Here here. It's becoming tiresome to follow this club with our fans it really is. They don't seem to grasp that it's not Ole that is the issue. Ed plus Poch isn't the golden ticket they all hope for.
Ole isn't managing the best team hence why we aren't 1st. Poch wouldn't be either.
Spurs are a bigger club that PSG. Don't confused big club and money rich club.
Not writing him off. They will probably still win the title as that league is pants.
But taking this current Utd team past a Pep n Klopp team with no injuries isn't the same as winning the league in France with an oil club is it?
I'd fancy my chances at winning it.
I'm not surprised since they were struggling before he arrived.
Getting to a Champions League final? Making spurs a consistent top four team for a few years? Vastly improving spurs squad and style of play? Yeh Ole has done just as much. Dont make me laugh. I like Ole and hope he continues to improve but with the same resources and players if Poch was in charge, we would definitely be better off and probably in the knockouts of CL.
Simple way to sum this up, if Poch leaves PSG he has alot of options of top clubs to go to. If Ole leaves he has what? Can you see him rocking up at any other top job? Nope. Thats the level of difference
Hence why you are on here spouting nonsense. The league is competitive this season,
Their starting striker couldn't even get a game for Everton.
Sorry...what? So just because they aren’t winning the league they don’t have the best squad? Icardi, Di Maria, Mbappe, Neymar, Veratti, Marquinhos and Navas would walk into any other side in France. Yes, they’re unbalanced but some of them would walk into any other side in the world ffs. What other French side beats Barcelona 4-1?
Lyon knocked City out of the UCL last season. There are other good players in France and PSG have allowed the gap to close by signing players like Herrera, Gueye, Kean, Pereira etc
They should still win the league, but the squad isn't so much better than the rest like it was 3/4 years ago any longer, and they were already struggling before the new manager arrived (who has only been there 3 months)
Massive overreaction from those who didn't rate Poch before clearly, likely in a years time some of these post will look pretty silly
Btw Barcelona are also subpar this season and it wasn't that long ago Roma beat them in the UCL 3-0, I think the other French sides in the title race stand a good chance of beating Barca this season on their day
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Verratti and Neymar have missed a lot of games, Icardi and Di Maria are subpar this season and while Navas is good, he isn't signifcantly better than Lopes or Maignan. Outside of their CBs, the rest of the team is shoddy.
Yes it’s closed from an absolutely huge gap. That doesn’t mean they don’t still have the best squad. The players you’ve just mentioned as being shit still start for 98% of French sides - and they’re PSG’s lesser players!
And that manager is now in charge of Chelsea, 2 wins in 6 league games and could be 6th by Tuesday.. And he won the league with PSG and got them to a CL final.
No they don't
Hes a good manager. So we are also judging Tuchel on 3 months at Chelsea... right ok
And the rest of the season with PSG? Is anybody to blame for PSG season then?
Just because you really want to see managers do well doesnt mean you cant judge their progress as they go.
You got acute Ole derangement syndrome that is manifesting even more now that the chosen one Poch, who I've not doubt you prob thought was the saviour for us.......is currently flopping bad at ready made squad and team PSG.
Yes their board/executive team, Tuchel has been quite vocal over the past 2 years about the issues... the squad needs tweaking and they have failed to do the work over the past couple of years.
Relying on players who can't stay fit in Neymar and Veratti and the obvious indulgement of Neymar in the dressing room. Its a big job for Poch lets see if he can sort it out.
Even saying that I still think he needs to win the league this season.
I couldn't care less about how he does, but it seems people want to write off a manager after 3 months which is utterly stupid.
I had reservations about Poch becoming United manager, but thats a separate conversation.
Because I said its not a guarantee he would walk into PSG mid season and run away with the league? Right ok
Such a strange thing to say. Do you rate him or don't you?
Pochettino is a good manager, no doubt, he's done well when equipped with a bunch of players who have potential but aren't expected to be successful. He has no experience at managing a team that is expected to win every game and not winning 3 on the bounce is a crisis. This is one of the reasons I don't think he's well equipped to manage a team like United. He has zero experience of this type of environment, as a player or manager.
If anything, Pochettino would be a better manager after his experience of managing PSG as he'll have elite level experience, so to say you'll seriously doubt him doesn't make any sense.
Tuchel is vocal about every board he's worked under, it usually takes him 18 months to fall out with everyone. If PSG don't win the league it's disgraceful management.
Mainly Leonardo, he has failed to fix obvious issues. But there is also the lack of fitness(injuries) and maybe discipline within the team with several covid infections.
With reason this time. Its quite clear for anyone who even follows the league or even the side, that they have not been managing the squad well over the past few years, a little similar to Barca but to a lesser extent
Its the same board that won all but 1 league in their tenure and got to a CL final a few months before.
They have been terrible since 2015, the team has been relying on the initial batch of players they brought but failed to replace almost everyone that left. PSG are a poorly run football club.
I'm still of the opinion that if you remove Mbappe and Neymar, this PSG side would struggle to get top 4 in the PL.
They and City seem to be in stark contrast. City have built a team with a vision spending a lot of many players and hiring a top manager. PSG also spend but have blown much of their load on two megastars, and signed okay players on top of that, and good managers. But while City have a cohesive team, PSG just seem to be less than the sum of their parts.
Well they're trying to play within the FFP rules so the board can't really do much about being quoted silly money for players just because they're PSG
Which doesn't change the fact that they have not been good within that context.
Ignorance, yes they had a good season, but the writing has been on the wall for a while. Just look at the squad evolution over the past 3/4 years
Still they bought a lot of average players for a lot of money. Their transfer dealings have been pretty awful. On top of that they are losing promising youth players on free transfers.
Unfortunately they have a rather easy schedule for the remainder of the French season. Would absolutely love to see them not only not win, but finish outside the top 2.
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