Brilliant interview with colly on sky just then. Bed for me soon. Flagging.
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3 innings victories, unbelievable!
Incredible series for England, records broken and Australia humiliated. Every single player in the England team contributed with something, Anderson lead the attack very well and Cook was immense with the bat. Tremlett was also very impressive and with Strauss & Flower in command I'm sure this team won't let the success get to their head and will continue to improve over the next 12-18 months.
Australia embarrassed on their own pitch, 3 humiliating defeats all by an innings margin. Unfortunate for Ponting, he will be remembered as the Aussie captain who lost 3 ashes series. A lot of things for the Australian selectors to consider, starting with whether they need to call time on Ricky's career (a lot of people will be calling for his head)
Australia embarrassed on their own pitch, 3 humiliating defeats all by an innings margin. Unfortunate for Ponting, he will be remembered as the Aussie captain who lost 3 ashes series. A lot of things for the Australian selectors to consider, starting with whether they need to call time on Ricky's career (a lot of people will be calling for his head)
It won't get better than this as far as playing Australia is concerned, saviour this for all it is worth.
I'm staying with this until it stops, absolutely fantastic!
Must... stay... awake...
Cook deserved Man of the Series
Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Australia raped and shown for being the shit side they are.
Shambles of a batting lineup. Shambles of a bowling lineup. Were it not for Hussey this could easily have been a 5-0.
I'm loving this. I've not seen England win a series in Australia until today.
Shambles of a batting lineup. Shambles of a bowling lineup. Were it not for Hussey this could easily have been a 5-0.
I'm loving this. I've not seen England win a series in Australia until today.
Very proud right now, Great achievement, so many stars with Cook and Anderson being the brightest but a few nods to Swann who kept it tight and Prior who was immaculate. Even our weakest link Collingwood made up for it in the field.
We'll look back on this for years, 3 innings victories to win and retain the Ashes, I want to see England go on and take on this form against Sri Lanka and India and show what they are capable of.
We'll look back on this for years, 3 innings victories to win and retain the Ashes, I want to see England go on and take on this form against Sri Lanka and India and show what they are capable of.
My eyes are bloodshot, my sleeping pattern has been awry but its all been feckin worth it. Great moment for English cricket but I hope there are greater to come.. 2005 was the greatest moment for me, but we failed to build upon it.. I hope we've learnt from our mistakes and really match the likes of India and SA.. Number 1 is the goal.
The biggest star for me is Strauss. An immense captain. I think he's surpassed even Vaughan.
This side more consistent than the '05 side really, more than capable of becoming number 1.
As big a trouncing as we'll ever give 'em
fking GET IN
fking GET IN
SwannClarke retires from ODI's too, full time test captain?
Retired as 20/20 captain.
Just got back from the match. Wonderful effort from our lads. Ponting's a bit of a twat in his actions, but what does it matter?
I remember the last series win here (was also there) and isn't this just ten times sweeter?
I remember the last series win here (was also there) and isn't this just ten times sweeter?
Michael holding has the greatest voice ever.
I went to school with steve smith, what a loser.
He was a pretty shit captain but had himself (As a batsmen), Hayden, Langer, glichrist, Warne and mcgrath to carry whoever else wanted to play cricket.
I just see no winners in this Australian side bar Clarke, Ponting and Hussey. Haddin is a cracking player but is yet to really taste the fruits of his hard work. Johnson and Siddle are hangers on with very little to add and Hilfy needs to go and perfect his bowling style.
Well England weren't very good but Australia were so utterly rubbish that they made them look like world beaters. The other up side is that it is like a day of national mourning here which is amusing.
You can only beat what's put in front of you.
Very true and they have done that comprehensively apart from the opposite in Perth which was odd.
Worst defeat by an Australian side in 134 years of test cricket. 3 Tests lost by an innings+ 
The result of this series, and the manner of the defeats is easy to understand when you look at some simple stats
-England had 6 of the top ten run getters in the series, remembering that in 3 of the tests their batsmen didn't get a 2nd chance to bat.
-England had 4 of the 5 top wicket getters in the series, with Chris Tremlett getting himself into 2nd place(17 wickets) despite only playing 3 tests.
-England had 7 of the top 10 highest scores in the series.
-England had 4 of the top 5 biggest innings totals in this series.
Really was a comprehensive defeat, I hope for the sake of Australian Cricket, the selectors are strung up. Obviously they didn't play the matches, but their selections, and reasons for, and lack of foresight and planning played a key role in his humiliation.
The result of this series, and the manner of the defeats is easy to understand when you look at some simple stats
-England had 6 of the top ten run getters in the series, remembering that in 3 of the tests their batsmen didn't get a 2nd chance to bat.
-England had 4 of the 5 top wicket getters in the series, with Chris Tremlett getting himself into 2nd place(17 wickets) despite only playing 3 tests.
-England had 7 of the top 10 highest scores in the series.
-England had 4 of the top 5 biggest innings totals in this series.
Really was a comprehensive defeat, I hope for the sake of Australian Cricket, the selectors are strung up. Obviously they didn't play the matches, but their selections, and reasons for, and lack of foresight and planning played a key role in his humiliation.
Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Beer, Smith, Clarke. This is what you get when you pick a side off ale bottles.
I think beer will take more stick then he deserves. Lets be honest, first tests do not always go to plan, especially for bowlers. Warne and McGrath didn't have great first tests but the selectors stuck by them and look what happened.
Khawaja must stay as well. Very very good talent.
It was very easy for talents like Hodge, Clarke and Hussey to walk in and score a big hundred in their first and second tests. They had inform, Hayden, Langer, Ponting and Martyn to bat with. When the chips are down not so much.
Phil Hughes needs to go as well. I want guys like Marsh and Jaques not one hit wonders.
Khawaja must stay as well. Very very good talent.
It was very easy for talents like Hodge, Clarke and Hussey to walk in and score a big hundred in their first and second tests. They had inform, Hayden, Langer, Ponting and Martyn to bat with. When the chips are down not so much.
Phil Hughes needs to go as well. I want guys like Marsh and Jaques not one hit wonders.
England were very good I don't get how anyone can they they werent no matter how shit the Aussies were.
I think the English bowlers were superb and look on paper ready to dominate for years but apart from Cook, their batsmen were not as crash hot as people will make out. 3 nearly 5 middle order collapses doesn't really constitute a great bating side but when their bowlers bowl like they did, you can afford to have a weakish batting line up. I mean the fact that they could get that ball to reverse after just 15 overs was remarkable. Just shows how stupid and pathetic the bowlers that bowl for Australia are. As I said after the first test, the pricks wouldn't understand a fecking thing about a bowling partnership. Every wicket doesn't have to be a ball and when you put batsmen under pressure wickets will come.
Your fielding was superb.
England ticked all the boxes for a solid series. They extremely well 'not out of their skins well' and got a deserved result. Australia were lackluster with no bite and very little support from the top order on the batting side.
If I were an English supporter, i'd feel that 2005 was a more satisfying result as it wasn't as lopsided. As an Australian fan I just feel embarrassment that another of our sporting associations has let this happen again. We sit on our arses until its too late and throw everything at it before we actually properly invest in youth development again.
Australia desperately need a new captain not some fair haired soft cock who lets everybody around him including his 22 year old missus piss all over him and then go on twitter and apologize for it. We need somebody in the guise of Steve Waugh or Alan Border. That grizzled razor sharp brain who can sit there and bat for 2 days to save an innings or decimate a team.
We want
Not
Paul Hogan: $80 Million Lawsuit from Hogan Against Aussie Govt
6 January 2011
Paul Hogan plans to sue the Australian government for $80 million over a failed investigation into his taxes.
Two film industry figures plan to testify that Australian actor Hogan lost up to $15 million a year during the five-year investigation by the Australian Crime Commission, Hogan’s lawyer told News Limited.
The ACC announced in November it had dropped its criminal investigation into Hogan as it was “not justified in the public interest.”
The “Crocodile Dundee” star has demanded the ACC apologize, saying he was “publicly branded a criminal, a fraud, a money launderer and tax evader.”
As if things couldn't get any worse for the aussies
6 January 2011
Paul Hogan plans to sue the Australian government for $80 million over a failed investigation into his taxes.
Two film industry figures plan to testify that Australian actor Hogan lost up to $15 million a year during the five-year investigation by the Australian Crime Commission, Hogan’s lawyer told News Limited.
The ACC announced in November it had dropped its criminal investigation into Hogan as it was “not justified in the public interest.”
The “Crocodile Dundee” star has demanded the ACC apologize, saying he was “publicly branded a criminal, a fraud, a money launderer and tax evader.”
As if things couldn't get any worse for the aussies
Have to say I didn't stay up to the end, when the rain came I decided that we were going to win anyway, starting to wish I had stayed up now.
Fantastic win for England on foreign soil, especially in Oz. So sweet to beat the Aussies in their back yard, lets hope they don't fall into termianl decline like the Windies though.
As has been said, we can only beat what is put in front of us, the hope is that we can continue this form against India & South Africa.
Fantastic win for England on foreign soil, especially in Oz. So sweet to beat the Aussies in their back yard, lets hope they don't fall into termianl decline like the Windies though.
As has been said, we can only beat what is put in front of us, the hope is that we can continue this form against India & South Africa.
Great performance by the lads indeed.
Just looking up the bowling figures for the series: Tremlett took 17 wickets in 3 tests and Bresnan 11 in 2, both great efforts and meant Broad wasn't really missed after his injury.
Just looking up the bowling figures for the series: Tremlett took 17 wickets in 3 tests and Bresnan 11 in 2, both great efforts and meant Broad wasn't really missed after his injury.
I think the performances of Tremlett and Bresnan has pushed down Steven Finn in the pecking order, and actually i hope the selectors stick with the current bowling attack as well as bringing back Broad for Collingwood, and go with a 5 man attack. Also gives us he option of playing 2 spinners, especially on the subcontinent.
Ashes gloating, anyone? How one Australian journalist called the series in November ...
As Matthew Norman pointed out in this morning's Daily Telegraph, it would be inelegant to gloat over England's Ashes triumph over a ragtag Australian side. There is still room for some fun, though.
By Mike Norrish 10:14AM GMT 07 Jan 2011
Throughout the series, the Australian media shown less mercy than the Barmy Army when taunting Ricky Ponting and his team. However, before the start of the series, the mood was a considerably more bullish.
Here, printed in its full glory, is how Will Swanton, cricket writer for the Australian Daily Telegraph (no relation), saw the series on November 19, 2010. A lot can happen in two months ...
10 reasons Poms WON'T win
By Will Swanton, November 19, 2010
1 Overrated
They walked around The Oval after their dominant home summer like they were God's gifts to Wisden. Here's who they really beat. No one. Nuffies and cheats. England clean-swept the worst team on the planet, Bangladesh, and then won three out of four Tests against rotten Pakistan. Now they're portrayed as superstars.
2 Kevin Pietersen
He might be growing a moustache for a very good cause but he's still getting around looking like Dirk Diggler out of Boogie Nights. His most recent Test efforts have been the biggest joke. John Buchanan was right with his assessment of Pietersen. Buchanan was panned because the truth hurt. There's more than one 'I' in Kevin Pietersen and it hurts morale.
3 No top speedster
Jimmy Anderson, Stuart Broad and Steve Finn are respectable quicks. But they lack the fear factor. Every truly great attack has someone pushing 150km/h, like Mitchell Johnson does for Australia. None of the touring fast bowlers are frightening. Away from swing and seam-friendly England, that doesn't leave them with much.
4 Passive captain
Andrew Strauss has to lead by example because his introverted demeanour doesn't get the blood pumping too much. Only his scores do. He leads with quiet assurance when things are going well. But he comes across as introverted and submissive when things start going pear-shaped.
5 No superstars
Pietersen is as good as anyone when he's in the mood, but he hasn't been in the mood for a long time. He couldn't make a hundred against Bangladesh – his 99 was close but no cigar – and Doug Bollinger, Ben Hilfenhaus and Johnson can smell blood. Graeme Swann is the only Englishman to make a world XI right now. England are successful because they know their limitations. Which means there are limitations.
6 Over-analysis
They've faced bowling machines with footage of Australian speedsters running in at them – and still didn't want to know about Mitchell Johnson. They've given themselves three weeks in Australia to acclimatise but haven't played on pitches like the monster they'll encounter at the Gabba. Every breath they take is a part of a suffocating plan. There's no freedom, nothing instinctive or adventurous. Paralysis by over-analysis.
7 No depth
In such a cramped schedule, injuries are bound to hit both camps. England are in serious strife if they lose any of their first XI. There's a vast gulf between their top-tier players and those on the standby list. Australia can only hope and pray that off-spinner Monty Panesar is called in for Graeme Swann. Australia have eight Test-standard speedsters in the queue.
8 Chokers
This is England we're talking about. Losing is a tradition. Think soccer World Cups. Think Tim Henman at Wimbledon. Think every cricket tour of Australia since 1986-87. They always arrive talking themselves up, vowing they won't wilt under the heat and pressure and scrutiny, then wilt under the heat and pressure and scrutiny. They've hired a self-described Yips Doctor – because they need one.
9 Warm-ups
Everyone keeps rattling on about England's perfect preparation. They must be having a laugh. A few of them made runs at Adelaide Oval. It's like batting on the Hume Highway. Anyone seen the scorecards? Western Australia rolled England for 223. South Australia dismissed them for 288 on the Hume. And Australia A ripped through their top order in Hobart A yesterday. Perfectly prepared? Piffle.
10 Scars
Five of their top six batsmen are the same lot who stumbled and bumbled through the 5-0 loss on England's last trip to Australia. The scarring is deep and real. Jimmy Anderson's memories of Australia are all nightmarish. He averaged 45.16. Broad and Finn are yet to play a Test series in Australia. Hard surfaces jarring bones and muscles, oppressive heat – they won't know what or who has hit them.
I just loved this - Any OZ resident see this prat eating humble pie now in his writing
As Matthew Norman pointed out in this morning's Daily Telegraph, it would be inelegant to gloat over England's Ashes triumph over a ragtag Australian side. There is still room for some fun, though.
By Mike Norrish 10:14AM GMT 07 Jan 2011
Throughout the series, the Australian media shown less mercy than the Barmy Army when taunting Ricky Ponting and his team. However, before the start of the series, the mood was a considerably more bullish.
Here, printed in its full glory, is how Will Swanton, cricket writer for the Australian Daily Telegraph (no relation), saw the series on November 19, 2010. A lot can happen in two months ...
10 reasons Poms WON'T win
By Will Swanton, November 19, 2010
1 Overrated
They walked around The Oval after their dominant home summer like they were God's gifts to Wisden. Here's who they really beat. No one. Nuffies and cheats. England clean-swept the worst team on the planet, Bangladesh, and then won three out of four Tests against rotten Pakistan. Now they're portrayed as superstars.
2 Kevin Pietersen
He might be growing a moustache for a very good cause but he's still getting around looking like Dirk Diggler out of Boogie Nights. His most recent Test efforts have been the biggest joke. John Buchanan was right with his assessment of Pietersen. Buchanan was panned because the truth hurt. There's more than one 'I' in Kevin Pietersen and it hurts morale.
3 No top speedster
Jimmy Anderson, Stuart Broad and Steve Finn are respectable quicks. But they lack the fear factor. Every truly great attack has someone pushing 150km/h, like Mitchell Johnson does for Australia. None of the touring fast bowlers are frightening. Away from swing and seam-friendly England, that doesn't leave them with much.
4 Passive captain
Andrew Strauss has to lead by example because his introverted demeanour doesn't get the blood pumping too much. Only his scores do. He leads with quiet assurance when things are going well. But he comes across as introverted and submissive when things start going pear-shaped.
5 No superstars
Pietersen is as good as anyone when he's in the mood, but he hasn't been in the mood for a long time. He couldn't make a hundred against Bangladesh – his 99 was close but no cigar – and Doug Bollinger, Ben Hilfenhaus and Johnson can smell blood. Graeme Swann is the only Englishman to make a world XI right now. England are successful because they know their limitations. Which means there are limitations.
6 Over-analysis
They've faced bowling machines with footage of Australian speedsters running in at them – and still didn't want to know about Mitchell Johnson. They've given themselves three weeks in Australia to acclimatise but haven't played on pitches like the monster they'll encounter at the Gabba. Every breath they take is a part of a suffocating plan. There's no freedom, nothing instinctive or adventurous. Paralysis by over-analysis.
7 No depth
In such a cramped schedule, injuries are bound to hit both camps. England are in serious strife if they lose any of their first XI. There's a vast gulf between their top-tier players and those on the standby list. Australia can only hope and pray that off-spinner Monty Panesar is called in for Graeme Swann. Australia have eight Test-standard speedsters in the queue.
8 Chokers
This is England we're talking about. Losing is a tradition. Think soccer World Cups. Think Tim Henman at Wimbledon. Think every cricket tour of Australia since 1986-87. They always arrive talking themselves up, vowing they won't wilt under the heat and pressure and scrutiny, then wilt under the heat and pressure and scrutiny. They've hired a self-described Yips Doctor – because they need one.
9 Warm-ups
Everyone keeps rattling on about England's perfect preparation. They must be having a laugh. A few of them made runs at Adelaide Oval. It's like batting on the Hume Highway. Anyone seen the scorecards? Western Australia rolled England for 223. South Australia dismissed them for 288 on the Hume. And Australia A ripped through their top order in Hobart A yesterday. Perfectly prepared? Piffle.
10 Scars
Five of their top six batsmen are the same lot who stumbled and bumbled through the 5-0 loss on England's last trip to Australia. The scarring is deep and real. Jimmy Anderson's memories of Australia are all nightmarish. He averaged 45.16. Broad and Finn are yet to play a Test series in Australia. Hard surfaces jarring bones and muscles, oppressive heat – they won't know what or who has hit them.
I just loved this - Any OZ resident see this prat eating humble pie now in his writing
but it gives me great pleasure when cnuts such as this are hung out to dry as biased imbeciles by their own words
well done england...smashed us all summer and fully deserve the win
Bollocks!
Whoever you play against at test level, 3 innings victories away from home, 2 600+ scores, another 2 500+ scores, records tumbling left right and centre with the bat, consistently bowling Australia out for less than 300 and the best fielding side (by some distance) that England have ever had and you think they weren't very good?!
Australia might have been poor but so were England throughout the Nineties in Ashes series. It doesnt detract from the fact that England were top quality in all departments during this tour. What did you expect them to do, win 5-0 and by an innings, 1000 runs and the moon in each match?
I particularly love these, especially the Johnson quotes.
They knew about him alright. Enough to flog the shit out of him in their 3 wins.
What an idiot.