The thing is you couldn’t put up a good argument if you tried, it’s very clear cut, Ronaldo has never averaged more than 3 dribbles per game in his life, the closer he came was 09/10 season with 2.9 dribbles per game, Hazard has 3.4 this season and that’s not even his best.
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Just because a player dribbles more it doesn't make him a better dribbler.
It's only football, don't take it so personal.
http://ar.marca.com/claro/futbol-internacional/2019/04/12/5cb0e91fe2704e59b78b45c8.html
Marca today,Capello: Ronaldo is a great player, rivals defences fear him, but Messi is a genius, he is in Maradona and Pele's level.
Marca today,Capello: Ronaldo is a great player, rivals defences fear him, but Messi is a genius, he is in Maradona and Pele's level.
Ronaldo is apparently a better dribbler than Neymar and Hazard.
Is Ronaldo a better freestyler than Ronaldinho? Can't wait to find out, I bet he is.
Is Ronaldo a better freestyler than Ronaldinho? Can't wait to find out, I bet he is.
Anything is possible in a world where ronaldo's bicycle kick was assisted. I mean, he only had one thing to do, right?
I have never said it's a fact that Ronaldo is better. It's my opinion.
I read that argument, didn't reply.
That was no assist. Carvajal misplaced that cross, it was all Ronaldo. Brilliant goal. I said as much when he scored it. I was in awe, just like I am whenever I see the replay of that masterpiece.
I think that Bale's in the final was better though and in a more important stage.
Where are you getting these stats may I ask? Because I saw stats that he had over 3-4 dribbles per game in 09/10.
Can't have both. Which one is better, the younger who was a better dribbler, faster, etc. or the older one that won more and was more "clutch"?
Don't think the question about the "better version" is that significant. He has been both versions (perhaps more) in one player, in one career. That's pretty huge.
So what would make him a better dribbler? I guess we could also say Ronaldo is not a better goal scorer than Hazard.
Such a ridiculous statement which always gets repeated
Its the truth. And even the majority of Argentinian media will agree with me and you know it very well.
How is it not significant? If we are choosing between these two players, I think their best versions logically come into play.
For me, the current Messi is the best Messi, while the current Ronaldo is not the best Ronaldo, as I prefer him from his early Madrid days.
How can Ronaldo be better than Messi if his current version is inferior to the one that won less? You can see how this makes the Ronaldo argument problematic, as his advocates will always turn to the champions league titles as evidence of his superiority, though it seems a younger version of him was better without all that success.
I'm not making "the Ronaldo argument". Messi is the better player for me hands down.
All I'm saying is that Ronaldo's earlier prowess and his second peak both highlight his outstanding quality, as it's the same player who achieved both.
Argentinian media huh. Sorry I can’t cargue against such solid statements.
Ok, lets be specific, Martin Liberman is right, you are wrong.
That's fine, I wasn't assuming you were on one side or the other, just making a general statement that Ronaldo fans preferring the younger versions of him are essentially contradicting most of the pro-Ronaldo arguments in this thread.
And for the record, I agree with you, Ronaldo has changed his game and it's quite a feat. I prefer the Ronaldo from the beginning of his Madrid spell, that was a beast of a player, but later in his career he made adjustments to make the most of his surroundings and avoid ceding ground due to physical decline. It's truly impressive, credit to him for finding his place in any situation he was in. There are too many extremely talented footballers who cannot do that.
You really want the Argentine medias opinion on Higuain?
You can argue he is not a better shooter than hazard but you will be wrong.
They are wrong about him.
Martin Liberman hahahahaha oh my god
A minute ago you were saying we should take the Argentine medias word. Then when i alluded that they didnt like Higuain, you decided to change tac and say they were wrong. Damn, your cohorts here will be disappointed.
They're more successful at doing so too.
Ronaldo's dribbling even at his best isn't really close to Messi's.
People are really arguing this? Dayum
It will not change the fact i'm right when i agree with them in the first case and disagree in the second subject. They are right everytime we share the same opinion.A minute ago you were saying we should take the Argentine medias word. Then when i alluded that they didnt like Higuain, you decided to change tac and say they were wrong. Damn, your cohorts here will be disappointed.
That's what I was aiming for.
Epic choke job from Juventus after all that laughing at Real Madrid 
Juve are just a shite team.Epic choke job from Juventus after all that laughing at Real Madrid
But they have the ucl GOAT, most clutch player ever?
Maybe @Cal? will finally admit it's a team game?
They'd not be in the quarters if not for him & Simeone's disgusting tactics in Turin. Ronaldo has been given one good chance tonight, and he took it. Ronaldo has had a decent tournament, but his team just ran into a better one.
I remember that shite team taken to the final by Pipita Higuaín
Thank god, now he won't be relevant for the rest of this year.
Ronaldo really disappointing in defence today, where he has had a major edge over Messi these last few years. Completely undone by the ajax attack.
When have I ever denied that? It's the other side who seem to think Messi wins everything all by himself and whenever he doesn't, it's the manager/Higuain/etc's fault.
Bye bye Ronaldo. Shame for him because he literally invests his entire season for CL final stages because that's all that matters for Ballon d'Or, but it's good to see Juventus fail. Bring on another Ballon d'Or for Messi.
Ronaldo is nothing if he doesn't get gifts from the ref.
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