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Escobar

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To replace him has to be the top priority. It's incredible how much we struggle without him
 

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How can he not see this does not work :houllier:?

Please just play Pereira :angel:!!
I don't watch many youth/reserve games but from what I've see Pereira is not a holding mid in any way, shape or form.
I'd agree, play Pereira, but instead of Fellaini.
How will that help with the lack of a holding mid problem?!
 

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How will that help with the lack of a holding mid problem?!
It doesn't, but having players who are comfortable in possession and comfortable with the ball at receiving the ball from the defence at their feet is better than what Fellaini offers.
 

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It doesn't, but having players who are comfortable in possession and comfortable with the ball at receiving the ball from the defence at their feet is better than what Fellaini offers.
It was only a few games ago that Fellaini was one of our best players in those attributes. He hasn't suddenly forgotten how. Teams recognise him as a threat now, which at the very least occupies them with keeping him quiet.
I doubt throwing Pereira in at the deep end will offer anything near what Fellaini can. That's the sort of wishful thinking fans showed before the likes of Zaha and Fabio disappointed us.
And by the way this isn't a criticism of Pereira. Just that it's too soon for him and too much pressure.
 

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It was only a few games ago that Fellaini was one of our best players in those attributes. He hasn't suddenly forgotten how. Teams recognise him as a threat now, which at the very least occupies them with keeping him quiet.
I doubt throwing Pereira in at the deep end will offer anything near what Fellaini can. That's the sort of wishful thinking fans showed before the likes of Zaha and Fabio disappointed us.
And by the way this isn't a criticism of Pereira. Just that it's too soon for him and too much pressure.
Fellaini has never been comfortable receiving the ball at feet and playing it forward. That's just not his game.
 

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I don't watch many youth/reserve games but from what I've see Pereira is not a holding mid in any way, shape or form.

How will that help with the lack of a holding mid problem?!
I am not saying play Pereira for an injured Carrick at DCM. We have issues there whoever we play unless Carrick is healthy.

I am saying play Pereira ahead of Rooney as one of our two other CMs.

Not saying it is guaranteed to work, but I am tired of watching strikers play as CMs.

That make sense now?
 

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The (most unwanted) first full season highlight:(

His chest control can rival the Belgian's
 

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Found myself on this video. What a great player!
 

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Don't think some people realise how important he is to our side when they put Schneiderlein ahead of him as a #6 in hypothetical line ups.

However, if Carrick has a less injury hit season (which is likely, as apart from last year he isn't exactly an injury prone player), I think it could be one of his best years yet. It's clear Van Gaal absolutely loves him as a #6, and him complimented with Schneiderlein and Herrera is as good as any midfield in the league.
 

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typical example of utility and indifference curve
Don't think some people realise how important he is to our side when they put Schneiderlein ahead of him as a #6 in hypothetical line ups.

However, if Carrick has a less injury hit season (which is likely, as apart from last year he isn't exactly an injury prone player), I think it could be one of his best years yet. It's clear Van Gaal absolutely loves him as a #6, and him complimented with Schneiderlein and Herrera is as good as any midfield in the league.
 

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Coming towards the end of his career now so how would people rank him amongst the all time Premier League midfielders... Just in the tier below the likes of Keane, Scholes, Vieira etc ?
 

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It's gonna be fun and interesting if despite signing Schneiderlin and Schweini, Carrick will send them right from the start on the bench with his typical above intelligent performances.

Don't be surprised if injuries won't f*ck him up.
 

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Coming towards the end of his career now so how would people rank him amongst the all time Premier League midfielders... Just in the tier below the likes of Keane, Scholes, Vieira etc ?
Didn't he won the same if not bigger amount of trophies than Vieira ?

He's not a huge type of character in the dressing room but I still think he's close there. He offered everything what was needed to conquer England and Europe.
 

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Coming towards the end of his career now so how would people rank him amongst the all time Premier League midfielders... Just in the tier below the likes of Keane, Scholes, Vieira etc ?
He'll be appreciated a lot more when he's finished.
 

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IMO carrick wont be a big name in the all time greatest midfielders unless you ask a united fan. However this is exactly the reason why i deem him to be one of the best. He always played for the team first and foremost. Even the likes of pirlo and cleverely who focus on passing have streaks of arrogance in their play style that carrick never had.

Fantastic player and one of the best players to play for united ever. How the likes of scholes & carrick never regularly appeared for england is beyond me.
 

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Coming towards the end of his career now so how would people rank him amongst the all time Premier League midfielders... Just in the tier below the likes of Keane, Scholes, Vieira etc ?
He'll never be rated on their level as he was never as obviously imposing or gung-ho.

I don't think some United fans will really appreciate him until he's gone. I think we were lucky to watch Ronaldo and him together, it was a great match at the time. We just don't and haven't had a player to release the ball to in that fashion since.
 

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Most United fans have an appreciation for Carrick and know what he brings to the table. I also noticed alot of pundits and commentators have finally caught on to how important he is for us and he's been getting his due the last few years. I don't think he'll be raved about and put in teams of the decade because he wasn't a prolific midfielder like Lampard or a real character like a Keane or Vieira. In a way he's alot like how Xabi Alonso in that regard where he's a top player but his impact isn't measurable by statistics.

Of course you'll have the "fans" who don't watch games, play Fifa and will be all over Twitter who'll be saying good riddance and beg us to sign Pogba or a midfielder with pace like Castro or Junuzovic.
 

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He'll never be rated as among the best because he wasn't as good as the best. Very good midfielder, just not one of the best.
 

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To think he'd have actually been a lot better besides a real central midfield partner in those years of midfield wilderness.
 

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He'll never be rated as among the best because he wasn't as good as the best. Very good midfielder, just not one of the best.
Agreed. Underrated for a lot of his career, but second tier not first. To be fair, in my opinion that puts him alongside the likes of Gerrard and Lampard. Scholes is the only Englishman in the ranks of this generation's true midfield greats.
 

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It's gonna be fun and interesting if despite signing Schneiderlin and Schweini, Carrick will send them right from the start on the bench with his typical above intelligent performances.

Don't be surprised if injuries won't f*ck him up.
Schweini shits all over Carrick.
 

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Schweini shits all over Carrick.
That is to be determined in United where everything is possible. Juan Sebastian Veron used to shit all over everybody in Europe but in English league ? Not so much but as for now Schweini is better and more of a complete footballer indeed.
 

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The reason carrick isn't up there with the likes of scholes and schweinsteiger is maybe down to his lack of ability but i put it dowm to his upbringing.

Looking at van gaals tactics alone; you wonder what he coukd have achieved in the world if he had a manager who developed players like van gaal did with schweinsteiger.
SAF is a great manager to improve your ability but maybe not a manager to completely maneuver a decent player to a position in a system where they become critical.

If van gaal was here from the start(not saying i want him to) its just as possible he would have started off as a CB/CDM hybrid we have seen only at the latter part of his career.
 

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The reason carrick isn't up there with the likes of scholes and schweinsteiger is maybe down to his lack of ability but i put it dowm to his upbringing.

Looking at van gaals tactics alone; you wonder what he coukd have achieved in the world if he had a manager who developed players like van gaal did with schweinsteiger.
SAF is a great manager to improve your ability but maybe not a manager to completely maneuver a decent player to a position in a system where they become critical.

If van gaal was here from the start(not saying i want him to) its just as possible he would have started off as a CB/CDM hybrid we have seen only at the latter part of his career.
Carrick's best football came under Alex Ferguson so I doubt he'd have been any better.
 

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supposedly the biggest loser, as in the case of every midfield shake-up
He's 34, was always going to happen. Will still play plenty of games and rotate with bastian, but he's not first choice anymore. Great squad option to have though, considering he's a better player then any other midfielder bar fabregas and matic in the league (and those starting in front at United).
 
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